Hero of Winds 2,576 Posted November 19, 2014 2 Joker and kingdomlanelover reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Shears 2,144 Posted November 19, 2014 Except the fact that the amount of boring water routes in RSE was a problem that was agreed upon, but Game Freak decided to leave it as is. So that is a legitimate negative....Sorry, I'm just really tired of everyone bitching about IGN like it's still 2009. >_> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua7KH 5,395 Posted November 19, 2014 ... Well. It is, like. Hoenn. The Hoenn region has a lot of water. This IS a remake and the original Hoenn had a lot of water. So I don't see why Game Freak would change that. 4 Dio Brando, Yang, Ninkoro and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Winds 2,576 Posted November 19, 2014 Except the fact that the amount of boring water routes in RSE was a problem that was agreed upon, but Game Freak decided to leave it as is. So that is a legitimate negative....Sorry, I'm just really tired of everyone bitching about IGN like it's still 2009. >_> No one's bitching here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waller-pearson 60 Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Except the fact that the amount of boring water routes in RSE was a problem that was agreed upon, but Game Freak decided to leave it as is. So that is a legitimate negative....Sorry, I'm just really tired of everyone bitching about IGN like it's still 2009. >_> IGN is dumb for this... anyways yall should watch this Edited November 19, 2014 by Waller-pearson 1 Ninkoro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caxkj 481 Posted November 19, 2014 ...Le duh? 3 OmegaForte, Pingutino and Amber Cole reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Okay if you read/watch the actual review it isn't complaining on actual water, but just the amount of Water Types is too much. I kind of understand where this is coming from, there is land on Hoenn, they should probably type abundance balance it a bit more to help make it less of a gap between Water and other types. They said that they really wound up using a single pokemon a bit too much to counter them, such as Pikachu that is such a high level. IMO, its not a big deal to me, but its understandable. I think the game deserves an 8.0 - 8.5 though. Edited November 19, 2014 by Shana09 1 Jilly Shears reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rizzyy 736 Posted November 19, 2014 well someone's never played pokemon if they think there's too many hm's and water Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Shears 2,144 Posted November 19, 2014 ... Well.It is, like. Hoenn.The Hoenn region has a lot of water. This IS a remake and the original Hoenn had a lot of water.So I don't see why Game Freak would change that. But the problem is that the water routes were extremely repetitive and boring when you consider in the last third of the game you were basically only fighting Water type trainers, and even then the only pokemon you would ever encounter were Wailmer and Tentacool up until Victory Road.Yes you could say that "it was in the originals so why shouldn't they change it", but the issue is that it was a legitimate problem in the first place. Sure you can use Repels and whatnot, but when you literally have to avoid a core mechanic of the games that's just bad game design. It's the same issue with having 8 HMs, like come on guys. There's a reason why remakes allow you to make artistic decisions for the better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Winds 2,576 Posted November 19, 2014 But the problem is that the water routes were extremely repetitive and boring when you consider in the last third of the game you were basically only fighting Water type trainers, and even then the only pokemon you would ever encounter were Wailmer and Tentacool up until Victory Road.Yes you could say that "it was in the originals so why shouldn't they change it", but the issue is that it was a legitimate problem in the first place. Sure you can use Repels and whatnot, but when you literally have to avoid a core mechanic of the games that's just bad game design. It's the same issue with having 8 HMs, like come on guys. There's a reason why remakes allow you to make artistic decisions for the better. There were far better things to work on rather than work on a non-issue. 1 HeyMouseSayCheese reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmegaForte 1,674 Posted November 19, 2014 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/too-much-water How much IGN fails that one review started memes in a day. ROFL That, or they're Team Magma. Hmm... 4 Amber Cole, Hero of Winds, Pingutino and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Shears 2,144 Posted November 19, 2014 There were far better things to work on rather than work on a non-issue. Lack of variety and having to purposefully avoid a core mechanic for a major section of the game is a non-issue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TB298 114 Posted November 19, 2014 Too many hms? Lol Too much water? Well its hoenn of.course. I think the game should've gotten at least a 8, but thats my opinion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Winds 2,576 Posted November 19, 2014 Lack of variety and having to purposefully avoid a core mechanic for a major section of the game is a non-issue? Considering the entirety of the internet is making a joke out of IGN's review: Too much water is a complete non-issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
President Yoshi 313 Posted November 19, 2014 Lack of variety and having to purposefully avoid a core mechanic for a major section of the game is a non-issue? the fact that most people dont mind that makes it a non-issue. heck i never noticed that till recently and that doesnt change much 2 Hero of Winds and Ninkoro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rinax 473 Posted November 19, 2014 Demyx would also like a word with IGN. 3 Amber Cole, OmegaForte and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ninkoro 123 Posted November 19, 2014 Guyz I uncovered the secret, IGN is run by team Magma!!! Quick we have to defeat them before it's too late and they remove water from the entire pokemon world!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
President Yoshi 313 Posted November 19, 2014 kingdom hearts 3 - 7.8 too many plottwist 2 HeyMouseSayCheese and Hero of Winds reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shulk 8,623 Posted November 19, 2014 the fact that most people dont mind that makes it a non-issue. heck i never noticed that till recently and that doesnt change much Heck, I don't even think the game would feel right without the water. The water is part of what makes the region so memorable to me. I never minded surfing around. 2 Hero of Winds and HeyMouseSayCheese reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted November 19, 2014 So it's agreed that this was a flaw in the original, but IGN is stupid for still thinking it's a problem in the remake? Generally when you remake something you try to address problems, otherwise what's the point? Use a little ingenuity, but a spin on it, or at least streamline it it's hardly IGN's fault for having an negative opinion of something that was already established to be a problem in the original game saying it 'makes sense' doesn't really excuse it either, things making sense is a poor replacement for a good game. Kinda silly how Pokemon making sense is brought up to defend its flaws, but at the same time people will point out how Pokemon makes no sense if the criticism is about something being unrealistic 1 Jilly Shears reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,692 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Oh, how dare they give Pokemon OR/AS a 7.8 just because of the fact that there's "too much water" in what is supposedly a remake of a game that ALREADY had a lot of water (sarcasm). This review is so bad >_> (sarcasm). Seriously, the Hoenn region is pretty much an island SURROUNDED by water. So of course it's going to have water in it.. I don't get what all the fuss is about just because they game the games a 7.8 Edited November 20, 2014 by Tails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikuFangirl2008 1,368 Posted November 20, 2014 I guess Team Aqua got a jump start in ruling the word with floods. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Shimo 202 Posted November 20, 2014 My issue is that taking water away takes away some of the characteristics... if there was a region that had half of it as a forest and half a desert, we'd probably see too many bug, grass, and ground types. I certainly don't expect to see a Ponyta in the water, or a Swimmer to have captured a Torterra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmegaForte 1,674 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) You know how the saying goes "you can't spell ignorant without ign?" Guess what? Repel exist. Want to decrease the massive water type Pokemon encounters? Repel exist. Problem solved.Seriously guys? You forgot about repels? Smh. EDIT: Want more? Back in RSE you had to go back in forth to use repels. In XY and ORAS, you can keep using repels without having to go to your bag. No change from RSE to ORAS, as if! Can't wait for IGN to say "Too many Zubats!" IGN is a joke and always will be imo. Edited November 20, 2014 by OmegaForte 1 Hero of Winds reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted November 20, 2014 You have to understand this is a freelancer. IGN did not pay them for doing this review. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites