Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2014 I think the important line in here kinda fits a theory I have had about Xehanort for a long time, that he is either possessed (like ASOD did to Riku) or someone else put there heart in him. This line in the secret movie about the Keyblade that Master Xehanort wields. YMX: It's a will that is passed on. It could be said that this Keyblade maybe has a will or heart of its own that possesses its owner? I envision a young curious Xehanort, searching the worlds for answers and he comes across this ancient Keyblade from the Keyblade War, that provides him a look into the past and the drive and desire to bring the world to darkness. I do also agree that possibly this Keyblade belonged to the Six Foreteller that was not granted the power of the Tome of Prophesy. Just a theory. I am thinking this has to do with the Nobodys and Somebodys appearance being slightly different, Braigs nobody had the longer hair plus the white maybe due to Xehanorts influence within him. But he still had all of that later in DDD. I'm asking why and how he reverted and jumped back forward again. It's both confusing and redundant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holy_gridline 13 Posted October 2, 2014 So maybe Isa still wanted to be normal and good again. I kinda thought he volunteered willingly. Maybe I'm wrong. But it's still safe to say the Young Xehanort turned Braig back into a Nobody and Braig and/or Young Xehanort chose to take Isa with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nic Mosman 1 Posted October 2, 2014 But he still had all of that later in DDD. I'm asking why and how he reverted and jumped back forward again. It's both confusing and redundant. at about 4:30 We see when Braig loses his Heart to Apprentice Xehanort he doesn't have the ponytail or white hair. Thus when he regains his normal body it goes back to looking like it once did. This is the opening from KH3D Who we saw in TWTNW was Xigbar not Braig remember in KH3D they said they have their own hearts now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2014 at about 4:30 We see when Braig loses his Heart to Apprentice Xehanort he doesn't have the ponytail or white hair. Thus when he regains his normal body it goes back to looking like it once did. This is the opening from KH3D Who we saw in TWTNW was Xigbar not Braig remember in KH3D they said they have their own hearts now But he was referred to as Braig. And why was Ienzo still older? He was a kid when he turned into a Nobody and so were Lea and Isa. It doesn't add up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rinax 473 Posted October 2, 2014 Hold up, everyone. I was thinking about it in class (right now actually), and Braig mentions Xemnas. So wouldn't that mean it's present Braig, not past? Past (BBS) Braig wouldn't refer to Xemnas, but instead as Xehanort or something, right?On the topic of revival, if they revert back to pre-heart taken form, how come present Ienzo (maybe Isa and Lea as well) looks like he is(they are) now?Maybe in some circumstances Nobodies do grow?So many questions, so little information.Edit: More thinking: If this is present Braig, why does he look like Xigbar (pony tail, grey hair) later on?If this is past Braig, how does he know Xemnas and where does Xigbar come in? 1 Moni_22 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted October 2, 2014 the other xehanrots are the foretellers form chi - Kingdom Hearts III - KH13.com Forum - KH13.com, for Kingdom Hearts i knew xehanort's key had to be related to the keyblade war and the foretellers, but i didn't really hit the nail on the coffin....dang it... it think some else was more on point than me.... but i can't remember who, but this does raise the question how did YX change keyblades? any ideas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HikariYami 354 Posted October 2, 2014 Some a while back called this on here and KHinsider (I recognize some of you there).Shout out to who called it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nic Mosman 1 Posted October 2, 2014 But he was referred to as Braig. And why was Ienzo still older? He was a kid when he turned into a Nobody and so were Lea and Isa. It doesn't add up. Hmm I don't know not thinking about those things maybe? If you look at Lea and Isa and Ienzo in that scene they are much older they were kids in BBS which takes place 10 years before KH 1 in which they were much older than Sora and Riku. But he was referred to as Braig. And why was Ienzo still older? He was a kid when he turned into a Nobody and so were Lea and Isa. It doesn't add up. Also watching the Video in KH3D at the end of the game in TWTNW they don't say his name, Im pretty sure Just as Ansem SOD and Xemnas are different from Xehanort and YX Braig is Different from Xigbar, I also think they can stay separate because of Xehanorts Heart being inside them. 1 Sora_Roxas26 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Shimo 202 Posted October 2, 2014 I wonder if it is possible for Braig to have volunteered himself and Saix to become nobodies again, so that he could have greater power once again, as well as become a brand new empty vessel for Xehanort. (Half-Xehanort, half Braig, all Xigbar). Would explain why he is with Young Xehanort here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) I believe that Young Xehanort originally had the 'No Name' Keyblade and then managed to find this new Keyblade at some point. I strongly believe that this Keyblade is either the sixth apprentice's Keyblade or the Master of the six who also created the Chirithys. Edited October 2, 2014 by Master Eraqus 1 Pingutino reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moni_22 335 Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) A lot of people were always saying that Isa was in the new Organization because he wanted to, but this approves my theory that it was actually Xehanort controlling him in KH3D. Because it's obvious that YX says "Saix" at the end, meaning he chooses him to go to the new Organization. But, if Isa wanted to go, why would they have to choose him at all? Braig says "Who are we going to bring with us?", that means they were planing on taking one of them. Since YX says "S..." and Isa is not with them when Lea wakes up after this, I think it's pretty obvious what happens here. Edited October 2, 2014 by Moni_22 5 Kinode, Kittenz, Sora_Roxas26 and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted October 2, 2014 Sounds nice. Waiting till december to see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrinceNoctis 1,011 Posted October 2, 2014 I think Master Xehanort wields the keyblade of the sixth apprentice among the foretellers (The one who didn't see the Tome of Prophecy.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2014 Hmm I don't know not thinking about those things maybe? If you look at Lea and Isa and Ienzo in that scene they are much older they were kids in BBS which takes place 10 years before KH 1 in which they were much older than Sora and Riku. Also watching the Video in KH3D at the end of the game in TWTNW they don't say his name, Im pretty sure Just as Ansem SOD and Xemnas are different from Xehanort and YX Braig is Different from Xigbar, I also think they can stay separate because of Xehanorts Heart being inside them. Doesn't the journal list him as Braig? I actually can't remember, I haven't touched the game in a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Power Jusho 1,783 Posted October 2, 2014 I think I heard YX say Saix at the end but the chime at the end muffled it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblade101 526 Posted October 2, 2014 Is it just me, or was YMX about to say something just as the "Reconnect Kingdom Hearts" thing popped up? It sure sounded like he was going to say something starting with an "S" to me. I think Master Xehanort wields the keyblade of the sixth apprentice among the foretellers (The one who didn't see the Tome of Prophecy.) I seriously think so too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rinax 473 Posted October 2, 2014 I think I heard YX say Saix at the end but the chime at the end muffled it out. Assuming he's answering Braig, he might have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nic Mosman 1 Posted October 2, 2014 Doesn't the journal list him as Braig? I actually can't remember, I haven't touched the game in a while. There are two different entries in the Journal, Braig and Xigbar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted October 2, 2014 I TOLD YA'LL!! I TOLD YA, I TOLD YA, I TOLD YA!!! I TOLD ya'll that Keyblade wasn't his!!!! Did I not?!! I told ya!!! It's all a conspiracy!!! That dude is doing the work of someone else! And the teenagers all have the Forteller Keyblades!!! I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!! Terra's Keyblade looks JUST LIKE the Ursa Forteller's! There's no denying it!!! They're all reincarnations!!! It's a cycle!! IT'S A CYCLE!!! Kairi is vulpeus leader confirmed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted October 2, 2014 Is it just me, or was YMX about to say something just as the "Reconnect Kingdom Hearts" thing popped up? It sure sounded like he was going to say something starting with an "S" to me. I seriously think so too. Same, but, there is no single ''s'' in Japanese, so he would have said a word(Probably a name) starting with one of these: sa, su, tsu, shi, se, so If it's before 3D he could be referring to their Sora xehanort plan. But that would be useless to put in a secret end? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted October 3, 2014 I knew I wouldn't be able to not spoil myself This is very interesting... 1 atheist123 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted October 3, 2014 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way . Redundant!!! I don't think Lea will be evil... Just one piece of dialogue from X Chi made me extra suspicious about this scene. The Foreteller apparently tells the player to be wary of "seekers of darkness disguised as guardians of light". I think it could be foreshadowing KH3, even if it hasn't been confirmed to be canon 2 HarLea Quinn and Kittenz reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) A lot of people were always saying that Isa was in the new Organization because he wanted to, but this approves my theory that it was actually Xehanort controlling him in KH3D. Because it's obvious that YX says "Saix" at the end, meaning he chooses him to go to the new Organization. But, if Isa wanted to go, why would they have to choose him at all? Braig says "Who are we going to bring with us?", that means they were planing on taking one of them. Since YX says "S..." and Isa is not with them when Lea wakes up after this, I think it's pretty obvious what happens here. I thought the same thing tbh Nomura tries to make it non-obvious but it always is xDD Edited October 3, 2014 by KittensOnFire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nic Mosman 1 Posted October 3, 2014 Kairi is vulpeus leader confirmedWhere is this confirmed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted October 3, 2014 I think I may have figured something out...It's just a theory though. Basically everyone on the floor in this scene, looks the same as they do in ddd. So, why would braig look different, like the one part of the org in DDD. Because the "Braig" in DDD is actually Xigbar from the past. When he was a Nobody before he was destroyed. Also, the way Braig is talking in the scene is suspicious. Almost like he is planning to go against Master Xehanort. Another thing to note, is that Braig/Xigbar has always seemed to be out for himself. For his plans, not Xehanort's. This part RoxSox came up with. But I think it is a possibility. He also says, "Who will I take with me?". Like he has a plan and wants to take someone with him. HIM. Notice he didn't say "us" or anything like that. So, what if he took Isa with him? He was the only other one missing in DDD when Lea woke up. If my theory is correct about Braig, could it be a coincidence that Isa is also missing? More support towards my theory here. Braig says, "Oh well. Guess I'll head towards my own goals." Sure sounds like he is going to go off on his own.... 1 Xiggy's Fish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites