Kh3 Stupid?

[TheFrozenNobody 124]

why are they linking kh3 with kingdom hearts x what logic is that??? 

[Sora96 17,256]

 

#NomuraLogic

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Um, I'm sorry, WHY is this a problem?

[teatimed 16]

Um, I'm sorry, WHY is this a problem?

Because for those who can't speak japanese, they won't be able to play Kingdom Hearts x, unless it receives a westernised release

[Kaweebo 3,617]

Because for those who can't speak japanese, they won't be able to play Kingdom Hearts x, unless it receives a westernised release

Plus, the entire concept of KHX is stupid as it is. An online browser-based, JAPANESE-ONLY MMO that claims to be canon, but can only be semi-canon due to the blatant continuity errors it would cause by introducing it in as a full-fledged installment. 

[Ceriraye 485]

im not at all that bothered by it, i think of it as a way to know more of the kh3 storyline and whatnot while we wait for the game itself to come out. 

[RikuFangirl2008 1,368]

I say lets see how it goes. This is going to be awesome. I just know it. 

[Xian Cano 78]

I agree, it kinda bums me out whenever I hear that chi. Is gong to play a part in Kingdom Hearts III cuz it kinda seems unfair that many people in the Kingdom Hearts fanbase wont be able to play chi. And honestly, kingdom hearts 3 is starting to look... bad.. i just hope that chi wont play such a huge role. Unfortunately, its not turning out that way. Many devoted fans in the US who have been dying to play KH3 and have kept up with every game to date will be out of the loop when the gane comes. But whatever... I think they can fix this by adding all integral parts of chi in 2.5's re:Coded cutscenes

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

KHX is not wholly canon but it has elements within it that are. I look at it like a fairy tale that has been passed down from generation to generation with every generation adding their own spin on it. This would explain the inconsistencies with the plot but still allow it to in part canon. As we know with all great legends there is always a basis that is rooted in fact.

[TheKingdomkid 1,194]

Well isn't the only imporant things about KHX those letters from the fourtune tellers about the masters? If that's the case they could just put those in KH3 as like a report type thing or it could be an intro to the game as well who knows.

[awesomeinmyworld 268]

It isn't like there are people who have tried to make to make X's story available to everyone... And it's not like it isn't available at all. If you get a Yahoo Japan account, you can play X. Yes, it's all in Japanese, but with Everglow's videos and KHInsider, which has had X's world plots for some time now, you'll be able to know what's going on. I like that X and 3 will connect, it makes X more important, as it should be; It's set during the Keyblade War!

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Because for those who can't speak japanese, they won't be able to play Kingdom Hearts x, unless it receives a westernised release

 

Plus, the entire concept of KHX is stupid as it is. An online browser-based, JAPANESE-ONLY MMO that claims to be canon, but can only be semi-canon due to the blatant continuity errors it would cause by introducing it in as a full-fledged installment. 

Ok, 1, they said that they are putting χ-related content in Re:Coded HD. Even though it won't be the full story, it can still elaborate on the story so far that we need to know about. 2, even though the game isn't going to be ported anywhere now, odds are they are going to bring the story of χ overseas in some manner. I don't know what will happen for sure, but I'm certain that they aren't going to just make χ important to understanding III without letting more than half of the entire fanbase not even know about the story. It's not a stupid idea, it's just a little unusual as of this moment. It'll probably make more sense if something is done with χ for everyone else in the next few years before III comes out. And 3, as for those continuity issues, I'm going give them the benefit of the doubt and wait until the story develops further until I dub this game too messed up in terms of continuity. For all I know, there could be some more wibbly wobbly wonky Kingdom Hearts time travel that allows for all of these differing moments in time that somehow happened before Birth by Sleep and Kingdom Hearts had them happen. I mean, if the cards are "power from the future" then who's to say that the worlds haven't been dragged out of time as well? Anyway, I'm sure things will make more sense as time goes on.

[atheist123 583]

I didn't play Chain of Memories before KHII. I have no issue with not playing X Chi before III, especially considering KH13 will post about anything important from X Chi.

[Rinax 473]

It's like the Final Mixes. After they were released, they kept pretending all the fans knew about them- using cut scenes from KHIIFM in Days' opening, for example.

Of course, really, only huge huge fans knew about them. i'd say people only on kh13, but haha.

It's sad for others who aren't on forums or fan-sites, but I guess they aren't too much of a fan if that's the problem. 

[JTD95 1,107]

Plus, the entire concept of KHX is stupid as it is. An online browser-based, JAPANESE-ONLY MMO that claims to be canon, but can only be semi-canon due to the blatant continuity errors it would cause by introducing it in as a full-fledged installment. 

Just a minor correction. KHX is a MO, not a MMO.

[Forever 3,550]

I think the only thing canon about KH [chi] is the Master, the Fortellers, Chirishii, and the Sixth Follower. Learn all you can about those guys, and you pretty much have all your info right there.

[littleTSUBAME 483]

I think the only thing canon about KH [chi] is the Master, the Fortellers, Chirishii, and the Sixth Follower. Learn all you can about those guys, and you pretty much have all your info right there.

Right, and these things are pretty easy to explain somewhere (for example in 2.5's re:coded or even at the beginning of KH3). And it's not that hard to look for the necessary info yourself either.And even if you weren't aware of those things, I doubt it'd cause the same "WTF" feeling as playing KH2 before CoM (as I did).

[Kaweebo 3,617]

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I can 100% guarantee you that Hercules being in KHX has absolutely NOTHING to do with time travel, or any other reason that makes sense. He is in the game because he was in the other games, because KHX is not canon. At least as far as the Disney worlds are concerned.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Um, I'm sorry, WHY is this a problem?

Yes, indeed. Why IS this a problem?

[KHLegendIII 709]

I agree, it kinda bums me out whenever I hear that chi. Is gong to play a part in Kingdom Hearts III cuz it kinda seems unfair that many people in the Kingdom Hearts fanbase wont be able to play chi. And honestly, kingdom hearts 3 is starting to look... bad.. i just hope that chi wont play such a huge role. Unfortunately, its not turning out that way. Many devoted fans in the US who have been dying to play KH3 and have kept up with every game to date will be out of the loop when the gane comes. But whatever... I think they can fix this by adding all integral parts of chi in 2.5's re:Coded cutscenes

A review by someone hinted X chi's scenes being in Re:coded secret cutscenes or the new secret ending with KH3 hints if I recall correctly.

[Dave 5,715]

I think the only thing canon about KH [chi] is the Master, the Fortellers, Chirishii, and the Sixth Follower. Learn all you can about those guys, and you pretty much have all your info right there.

 

Yes, but if it turns out that information about these characters turns out to have some serious consequence within KH3, than it should be made accessible to all those who wish to understand and enjoy KH3. I don't think people should have to do homework or extended reading outside of the game itself to understand a story completely.

[Zachy1993 65]

Yes, but if it turns out that information about these characters turns out to have some serious consequence within KH3, than it should be made accessible to all those who wish to understand and enjoy KH3. I don't think people should have to do homework or extended reading outside of the game itself to understand a story completely.

 

Agreed. This is a total dick move on Nomura's part.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

I can 100% guarantee you that Hercules being in KHX has absolutely NOTHING to do with time travel, or any other reason that makes sense. He is in the game because he was in the other games, because KHX is not canon. At least as far as the Disney worlds are concerned.

Seriously? Wall of text? That wasn't even that long.

 

Anyway, I 100% don't agree with that. If they wanted to give an explanation for why you use freaking cards, then surely there must be an explanation for why the events of the worlds are occurring the way they are. This is Kingdom Hearts, I've never known them to have a story without some explanation for why things happen. The only games I will say were non canon were KH Vmobile because it wasn't even official, and KH Mobile because it was purely storyless minigames and upgrades. This game has a story, it's being tied into III, it has canon. Things that don't make sense may or may not get explained later on. If none of them are explained and all we get are the stuff that relates to III, then I'll go with the whole fairy tale theory devereauxr came up with, since it makes the most sense. It's a fairy tale, not everything that happened may be accurate, but there are important parts of the story that did happen and they are canon to the KH universe. Is it confusing? Yes. Is it convoluted? Yeah, a little. But is it stupid? No, not as far as I'm concerned.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

I am quoting this person.

It was long enough to be distracting to me. I have a thing about paragraphs over five sentences that take up entire posts. Just my own preference.

 

Long reply about why I believe KHX isn't canon.

 

Anyway, there's a difference between something being used as a gameplay mechanic and something that is fundamental to the storyline. Using cards in Chain of Memories is not the same as meeting and having a conversation with a character that should - in canon - not be there, or at least, not be there in the form that they are. One is a gameplay mechanic and one is part of the story, something that contradicts established lore in the series. And the only parts that tie to KHIII are the mysterious things you hear about in one specific part of the game - Daybreak Town. As far as the rest of the series is concerned, nothing else happened the way it did.

 

It couldn't because it doesn't make sense. It CAN'T make sense. Even if time travel was involved, it STILL wouldn't make sense. If the character you play as literally goes into the future and interacts with people like Hercules or Snow White, that means that Keyblades wielders are walking around all over the place during the events of the other games. If, somehow, the Disney characters went BACK in time, that raises even more questions! The simplest answer is to conclude that KHX is only semi-canon. The Foreteller's Script, the Lost Masters and any other piece of the story that makes itself present in KHX all ties into KHIII, but I can assure you that 'Random Keyblade Wielder #112' running into Donald Duck at some point during THE KEYBLADE WAR did not happen and is not part of established canon.

 

If KHX took place AFTER the games, then maybe I could see how one could make the argument that it might be canon. Like that Dragon Ball MMO that takes place hundreds of years or whatever after the manga/anime series ended. But this takes place before and contradicts everything - literally EVERYTHING - that has been established thus far in the series. Even the tone of the game contradicts what has already been established about the Keyblade War - that it was an awful, cataclysmic event that killed a ton of people and completely destroyed the universe. Not a bunch of cute chibi characters running around with keys meeting Disney characters.

 

Hell, I dare Nomura to justify the existence of this game in canon in a way that makes sense. Except it'll never happen because it's not. All KHX is is a fun little browser game that teases KHIII's story points in major ways. But the majority of it does not connect to anything, it doesn't make sense, it is not canon. Period.

 

 

I'll be honest though, I was actually willing to believe the game was somewhat canon even in the Disney worlds until they showed Hercules. That sealed the deal for me. The Keyblade War was, at the very least, a long time before BBS, where he was just a teenager. And to see him all grown-up somehow at a point in time before that? I cannot justify a good enough excuse for why that would happen; hence, to me, it didn't. If you think otherwise, that's fine. 

Edited September 25, 2014 by Kaweebo

[LeYenrz 276]

I don't want to have anything to do with chi. I just consider it as some weird little rock in the corner of a room full of gold. It's only semi canon. Just a few KH3 hints with a whole bunch of its own stuff thrown  into the mix. If it gets turned into legit canon I'll rage.

 

Yes, I am a bit annoyed that they're planning to tie in some KHX stuff in there, but i seriously doubt that it'll be intense enough that we have to go and play KH X itself to understand KH3. They're just going to draw some parallels.

Edited September 26, 2014 by khdayskh1314