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Naruto or Naruto Shippuden  

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  1. 1. which do you like more

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  On 5/7/2015 at 4:57 AM, BlazingArachnid99 said:

I know that, but even so, it was relatively consistent up until after he actually had his legit. fight with Itachi. After that it was all over the place with his motives and actions, and the fact that he literally gets over his entire hate deal with Naruto and the leaf period after wanting to literally massacre Naruto, the Kages and make a Revolution within the Leaf Village in a matter of hours after his last battle with Naruto. It wasn't paced well enough, it was rushed. And that in turn, affected the SasuSaku ship in terms of his feelings to Sakura suddenly resurfacing after 4 years of not giving a shit for her.

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He didn't turn right away. He still had a motive to kill Naruto and take his revenge over the Leaf when he sided with the Alliance. It was basically the reason why Vegeta decided to aid Goku and co. against the Ginyu Force: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

 

But of course, as we pay attention to his subtle actions/inner thoughts from that point onto when he fights Naruto for the last time, we can see he's gone through the full transition of accepting his current state and the want to make amends for past mistakes.

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  On 5/7/2015 at 5:02 AM, Firaga Sensei said:

He didn't turn right away. He still had a motive to kill Naruto and take his revenge over the Leaf when he sided with the Alliance. It was basically the reason why Vegeta decided to aid Goku and co. against the Ginyu Force: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

 

But of course, as we pay attention to his subtle actions/inner thoughts from that point onto when he fights Naruto for the last time, we can see he's gone through the full transition of accepting his current state and the want to make amends for past mistakes.

I meant him turning during the battle between himself and Naruto, i know he only sided with the alliance to take care of the bigger, more important threat of Madara and Kaguya.

 

True, we saw his transition, but really, you don't see him truly acknowledging his mistakes and his full transition until the very end of the fight immediately after Naruto starts saying that he'll never stop fighting him until he finally realizes how screwed up his motives and state of mind is. Literally prior to the fight he was all for the revolution and killing Naruto, in the span of a day he's already letting go of that and immediately makes a whiplash turn on wanting to make up for everything, and suddenly telling Sakura that there might be a chance for the two of them when he returns from his trip. This is why Kishi needed a few more issues than he had to pace the ending, this part felt rushed and it just made Sasuke out to be even weirder in his characterization than he already was.

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  On 5/7/2015 at 5:13 AM, BlazingArachnid99 said:

I meant him turning during the battle between himself and Naruto, he only sided with the alliance to take care of the bigger, more important threat of Madara and Kaguya.

 

True, we saw his  transition, but really, you don't see him truly acknowledging his mistakes and his full transition until the very end of the fight immediately after Naruto starts saying that he'll never stop fighting him until he finally realizes how screwed up his motives and state of mind is. Literally prior to the fight he was all for the revolution and killing Naruto, in the span of a day he's already letting go of that and immediately makes a whiplash turn on wanting to make up for everything, and suddenly telling Sakura that there might be a chance for the two of them when he returns from his trip. This is why Kishi needed a few more issues than he had to pace the ending, this part felt rushed and it just made Sasuke out to be even weirder in his characterization than he already was.

 

Sasuke is a quiet person, he doesn't deliver inner monologues that often.

 

Also, that didn't happen in one day. It took time for Tsunade to create fake arms for Sasuke and Naruto, and for Neji's funeral, and to have Tsunade step down as Hokage and give the position to Kakashi with enough time to have his face carved into Mount Ninjamore completley. That's a least a month or two.

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  On 5/7/2015 at 5:17 AM, Firaga Sensei said:

Sasuke is a quiet person, he doesn't deliver inner monologues that often.

 

Also, that didn't happen in one day. It took time for Tsunade to create fake arms for Sasuke and Naruto, and for Neji's funeral, and to have Tsunade step down as Hokage and give the position to Kakashi with enough time to have his face carved into Mount Ninjamore completley. That's a least a month or two.

 I know, but i figured this would be an exception that we'd see more of the transition through the course of the battle rather than seeing his thoughts at the very end, it kind of feels rushed in that aspect.

 

Ok, you have a point there, there was a decent amount of time for him to change fully. But even then, Sasuke had to have returned from his journey of clarity at some point during the time gap with 699 and 700 in order to have Sarada with Sakura and then leave right after for the next 12 years of her life. He said he'd only return when his journey was finished, and he had to have done it at some point in the 20 years, only to leave again for some unknown reason at this time. He seems more pre-occupied with his own motives than he seems to care about Sakura TBH, which isn't really good for a relationship. Especially one made up of two of the most prominent chars. in the series. :

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  On 5/7/2015 at 5:31 AM, BlazingArachnid99 said:

 I know, but i figured this would be an exception that we'd see more of the transition through the course of the battle rather than seeing his thoughts at the very end, it kind of feels rushed in that aspect.

 

Ok, you have a point there, there was a decent amount of time for him to change fully. But even then, Sasuke had to have returned from his journey of clarity at some point during the time gap with 699 and 700 in order to have Sarada with Sakura and then leave right after for the next 12 years of her life. He said he'd only return when his journey was finished, and he had to have done it at some point in the 20 years, only to leave again for some unknown reason at this time. He seems more pre-occupied with his own motives than he seems to care about Sakura TBH, which isn't really good for a relationship. Especially one made up of two of the most prominent chars. in the series. :

 

Maybe there's something else going on that we don't know about. Something that will tie into the current Sarada story.

 

It's called drama.

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Chapter 700+3 is out: http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto-gaiden-the-seventh-hokage/3

 

 

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  On 6/13/2012 at 11:39 PM, Iamkingdomhearts1000 said:

I think Tobi is Izuna Uchiha.

 

(Sorry for quoting, but it's to validate my opinion xD)

 

Good times, when we didn't know who Tobi was xD

 

 

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A book called "Michi" was released during the Naruto Exbition, and ShonenGameZ.com managed to get a copy and has translated some entries.

 

The first entry is "20 Facts You Probably Didn't Know About Mashashi Kishimoto".

 

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1) In Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #43, Naruto’s first serial appearance, Kishmoto had the following to say: “Ever since I was a little kid, I’ve always dreamed of having my own action hero comic in Jump!” (Year: 1999)

 
2) “As many movies started becoming available in DVD, Kishimoto, an avowed movie lover, rejoiced at the chance to use the DVD player he’d bought before starting work on the series! However, he had no time to watch movies due to the pressures of writing a weekly comic.” (Year: 2000)
 
3) “Kishimoto attends his first post-recording session for the anime adaptation. Seeing the dedication of the voice actors, director, and production staff inspires him to work even harder.” (Year: 2002)
 
4) “Naruto celebrates its 4th anniversary. Kishimoto worries about how the structure of manga is too restrictive because of the way the dialogue bubbles must be arranged from the top right to the bottom left.” (Year: 2003)
 
5) “Kishimoto gets married! Thanking everyone who attended his wedding ceremony, he expresses a renewed commitment to work harder than ever on the manga.” (Year: 2003)
 
6) “Volume 24 of the Jump Comics edition of Naruto hits the shelves. Once again, the comic hearkens back to Kishimoto’s youth as an avid fan of Dragon Ball, motivating him to make Naruto the best it can be.” (Year: 2004) 
 
7) “Kishimoto’s favorite time of the day is the refreshing hour between 10:00 and 11:00 a.m. However, with the intense demands of his workload, those hours eventually become a valuable source of sleep for Kishimoto.” (Year: 2006)
 
8) “Everyone at the office is talking about the eagerly anticipated Final Fantasy XII. To Kishimoto’s chagrin, he is too busy to play it or even share much in the excitement.” (Year: 2006)
 
9) “Kishimoto witnesses two stray cats fighting in the street. Gripped by the spectacle, he finds he can’t run away.” (Year: 2007)
 
10) “Though he’s devoted several long years to writing a manga about ninja, Kishimoto reflects that “recently, it feels less like what you’d expect a ninja manga to be.” (Year: 2008)
 
11) “Kishimoto says that around this time he started getting very forgetful, often misspelling words and characters’ names” (Year: 2008) 
 
12) “The new Naruto movie debuts, featuring Naruto, Kakashi, Shikamaru, and all of the Konoha characters in the same story! Kishimoto is excited beyond words!” (Year: 2009)
 
13) “Kishimoto sleeps through the World Baseball Classic. His assistants were very enthusiastic, but he could not join in the conversation.” (Year: 2009)
 
14) “Kishimoto stumbles upon an elementary school student reading a book on the theory of relativity at the library. He is astounded and deeply impressed.” (Year: 2010)
 
15) “Kishimoto asks his wife for help depicting what Kushina must have felt when she gave birth to Naruto.” (Year: 2010)
 
16) “On the title page of every Jump Comics edition, Kishimoto includes an illustration of all the characters featured in that volume. He mentions that it was a tough year when he wrote volumes 55 and 56, because the main characters were all old men.” (Year: 2011) 
 
17) “Kishimoto hits upon great ideas while taking baths. He wants to write them down, but he forgets them by the time he gets out the tub….” (Year: 2012)
 
18) “After a hard days work, Kishimoto takes his colleagues out to eat and leads them in a toast. It’s always the same: “Thank you for all your hard work today.” Although, one gets the feeling his assistants wish he would say just a little more… (Year: 2013)
 
19) “Kishimoto tries to sing the movie’s theme song at karaoke. But it’s a bit out of his range, and the performance leaves a bit to be desired!” (Year: 2014)
 
20) “Kishimoto poses for a family portrait. The photographer praises his ability to be completely still for long periods of time!” (Year: 2014)

 

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/05/16/naruto-michi-20-facts-you-probably-didnt-know-about-kishimoto/

 

There is another entry called "11 Facts About Oda And Kishimoto That You Probably Didn't Know", which delves into more factoids about Mr. Kishimoto as well as his rival/friend and author of One Piece, Einchiro Oda.

 

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1) The Camouflage Technique Kishimoto used in Naruto Chapter #241 influenced the way Oda drew the cloaking effect for the Clear-Clear Fruit.

 
2) Kishimoto always had Naruto returning to the village to differentiate from One Piece’s always roaming adventure.
 
3) Kishimoto decided that Naruto should have his companions around in the beginning whereas Luffy made friends as he went on his travels.
 
4) Both Kishimoto and Oda made attempts to not duplicate each other. For example, even when they both drew similar techniques like Luffy’s Gum-Gum Giant Pistol and Choji’s Partial Multi-Size Technique.
 
5) Oda spoke to Kishimoto before giving Luffy his “Giant Pistol” technique after seeing a scene where Choji’s hand got big. He told Kishimoto “Hey, I’m copying your style here. Sorry.” Kishimoto was fine with this though.
 
6) Sanji’s name was originally supposed to be Naruto, but Oda changed it when he found out the Naruto manga was releasing. Kishimoto said that if Oda would have kept that name, he probably would have changed Naruto’s name to other ramen words like “Menma” or “Shinachiku”.
 
7) Oda’s favorite characters are Rock Lee and Might Guy. Kishimoto was inspired by the Jackie Chan movies he used to watch.
 
8) Oda’s favorite character was also Zabuza and during the Land of Waves Arc, Kishimoto said he was getting a fever nearly every week when drawing that arc, but he said he had to keep going.
 
9) Kishimoto’s most difficult period was doing the final chapter in color. He also felt that he was running out of space to wrap things up. He usually would carry the story onto the next issue, but this time he couldn’t do it.
 
10) Oda would like to end One Piece on a nice and happy note, but getting to that point is going to be very difficult.
 
11) Kishimoto would like to work on something related to science fiction. Possibly something that has to do with clouds and the sky. Kishimoto was very jealous when Oda made the Skypiea Saga, it was something he wanted to do first, but was beaten to it.

 

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/05/16/11-facts-about-oda-and-kishimoto-that-you-probably-didnt-know/

 

Speaking of Oda and Kishimoto, that interview featuring them I posted a preview of previously can now be read in full! (Can't post it here though, too many images):

 

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/05/16/two-giants-of-manga-full-masashi-kishimoto-x-eiichiro-oda-full-interview/

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Boooooo, Weedanort.

 

Okay, but seriously, onto Chapter 704:

 

 

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I like SO many of them!!! (all from shippuden)

 

There is Closer (opening 4)

Sign (opening 6)

Toumei datta sekai (opening 7)

Diver (opening 8)

Lovers (opening 9)

Moshimo (opening 12)

Niwaka ame ni mo makezu (opening 13)

Silhouete (opening 16)

 

 

If I had to choose one it would be

Diver since it was the first Naruto song I heard. Silhouete is the one I like these days though.

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Part 1:

Opening 4 "Go!"- https://youtu.be/kXiDXEOBXps

 

Ending 3 "Viva Rock"- https://youtu.be/dus94ugwseg

 

 

Part 2: (Both have major spoilers)

Opening 15 "Guren"- 

 

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Ending 28 "Niji"- 

 

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I bet nobody can guess who my favorite character is after watching those last two.

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Here are my favorites (in no particular order)

 

- Naruto Classic -

 

OP2: "Haruka Kanata"

OP5: "Seishun Kyosokyoku"

OP7: "Namikaze Satellite"

 

 

 

 

END1: "Wind" (not to be confused with OP17 of Naruto Shippuden lol)

END2: "Harmonia"

END3: "Viva Rock ~Japanese Side~"

 

 

 

 

For Naruto Shippuden:

 

OP4: "Closer"

OP7: "Toumei Datta Sekai"

OP16: "Silhouette"

 

 

 

 

END8: "BACCHIKOI!!!

END12: "For You"

END15: "U can do it!"

 

 

 

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