King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 Forneverworld(Youtuber) has a pretty interesting theory. He says that madara saved obitio, and trained him and made his view on everything more sinister. One thing that interests me is that he think that it was infact Madara who fought the fourth hokage and not obito. SO basically all the past stuff was madara behind the mask, but eventually obito took it up and became tobi. Pretty interesting. This is exactly what I was thinking. If you go back to the Fourth Hokage battle, you'll see 'Tobi's' hair is the exact length and similar style to that of Madara. Not to mention the things Madara said seem to place his death shortly after seeing Nagato as a child. About Obito, I'm thinking Madara or Zetsu saved him right before Obito was about to die, and used his feelings against him. Rin's death, after Kakashi promising to keep her safe, those in Konoha that had poked fun at him, never believing he could amount to anything...And look at him now. Nearly as powerful as Madara himself. Obito had said he had planned to have Nagato use his eyes for something else, I'm guessing to revive Madara. After that was no longer an option he must have decided to claim himself as Madara to everyone, not only Sasuke, as he didn't know there was another option to bring Madara back. I can see Sasuke wanting to find Madara, and Madara having a confrontation with Obito about their current situation, since he's told the Five Kage he might as well go grab Naruto. And Naruto is currently with Kakashi and Obito... 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaneki Ken 1,516 Posted August 29, 2012 Come to think of it. The masked man that battled Minato could be Madara. Think of it, Madara might have still be alive during the time Obito "died" and Madara must have found him, saved Obito, and took him in. Then Obito began to get corrupted and had his emotions twisted by Madara and inherited the Curse of Hatred. During some point in time Madara died and Obito took in Madara's role, started using the mask and changed his name to Tobi. That's what I think about Madara and Obito now. We may get to learn more about Obito and possibly Madara in ch. 600. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henne 150 Posted August 29, 2012 I hope, we will see more of it in 600. There has to be something special about it... well, Sasuke could finally find that "person", but I don't think that that will happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Come to think of it. The masked man that battled Minato could be Madara. Think of it, Madara might have still be alive during the time Obito "died" and Madara must have found him, saved Obito, and took him in. Then Obito began to get corrupted and had his emotions twisted by Madara and inherited the Curse of Hatred. During some point in time Madara died and Obito took in Madara's role, started using the mask and changed his name to Tobi. That's what I think about Madara and Obito now. We may get to learn more about Obito and possibly Madara in ch. 600. That's basically everything I just said. But yes, Madara was alive at least until he saw child Nagato once. I'm hoping for more about Madara in the next chapter. I hope, we will see more of it in 600. There has to be something special about it... well, Sasuke could finally find that "person", but I don't think that that will happen. "That person" is most likely Madara. Edited August 29, 2012 by Riku'sAngel 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaneki Ken 1,516 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) I just thought of something. I know it will disapproved anyway but just bear with me. during the Kakashi Gaiden, when Obito almost died, What if Obito unlocked the mangekyou sharigan and teleported away? Edited August 29, 2012 by Xamtweth-reconnected Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 I just thought of something. I know it will disapproved anyway but just bear with me. during the Kakashi Gaiden, when Obito almost died, What if Obito unlocked the mangekyou sharigan and teleported away? I don't think the Mangekyo can be unlocked that way. I'm pretty sure it can only be unlocked by causing the death of someone close to you, or strongly feeling as though you did. Which is probably what happened on Kakashi's part. 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaneki Ken 1,516 Posted August 29, 2012 ! maybe at some unknown point where Rin died, Obito may have saw her die. thus, Mangekyo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 ! maybe at some unknown point where Rin died, Obito may have saw her die. thus, Mangekyo. Perhaps. Or when Obito found out she had died, he felt responsible for entrusting Kakashi with her? 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaneki Ken 1,516 Posted August 29, 2012 we dont know what kind of Sickness she died from, and Kakashi did promised Obito that he will protect Rin. idk, but all I can say is that when finding out Rin died, that may have activated Obito's mangekyo, and maybe the similar thing happened to Kakashi as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 29, 2012 why the thread under this one got locked... I didn't get to say.. Naruto Spoilers: Tobito... http://kh13.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.png Anyways did you see the girl with the Rinnegan eyes? And remember how he said he gave Nagato those eyes in the first place. You think he was talking about those eyes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) I was going to make a topic on this myself! They finally revealed who Tobi is! Although most people sayd it would be him, I also wondered that a while ago. It was more like a official revelation, everyone knew it was him! I read what some people wrote, and I agree. Obito must have become angry at Kakashi and the whole world when Rin died... He probably wants revenge at the nation, that's why he's doing all this. Also, I think most people noticed, that Obito and Naruto are very similar (it's obvious I know) but they ended up chossing different paths, because Obito wanted revenge and Naruto wanted peace... I think they're going to explore this similarity a lot... PS: Tobi and Obito are VERY similar names. oBITO, then you change this capital letters and you get TOBI. maybe a sign that he's not the same person as he was? Edited August 29, 2012 by AntonioKHT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 we dont know what kind of Sickness she died from, and Kakashi did promised Obito that he will protect Rin. idk, but all I can say is that when finding out Rin died, that may have activated Obito's mangekyo, and maybe the similar thing happened to Kakashi as well. She died from sickness? I didn't know Kishimoto actually said anything about that. But anyway, that could be it, but I suppose there's a lot that could have given either of them the Mangekyo. 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Because that was the third created today. There's already one under personal for some strange reason. What girl? Edited August 29, 2012 by Riku'sAngel 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxas_Wagner 174 Posted August 29, 2012 One more time,a random takes a great paper... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 29, 2012 One more time,a random takes a great paper... What? 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 29, 2012 Never mind that was Kurenai, damn her eyes look a lot like the Rinnegan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Yeah, that's the third topic I read about Tobi today on the site. That's why it got locked. Also, what are you talking about? What girl? And what about the Rinnegan? Edit: you already answered what I asked... Edited August 30, 2012 by AntonioKHT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 30, 2012 Never mind that was Kurenai, damn her eyes look a lot like the Rinnegan. Don't you mean Sharingan? Kurenai's eyes are red. And also, she's alive, eyes intact. 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skai 3,961 Posted August 30, 2012 Don't you mean Sharingan? Kurenai's eyes are red. And also, she's alive, eyes intact. Yea, I didn't recognize her at first and since it wasn't colored it looked like a different girl with the Rinnegan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxas_Wagner 174 Posted August 30, 2012 What? Obito was just a random character,and take a great paper in the story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 30, 2012 Obito was just a random character,and take a great paper in the story How was he a random character? The fact that Obito and Kakashi's story was shown at all was significant to the plot, which Obito was all along. 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted August 30, 2012 Theres been like 50 of them, that's pretty much why it got locked? Didn't you get a post from a mod directing you to the thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxas_Wagner 174 Posted August 30, 2012 How was he a random character? The fact that Obito and Kakashi's story was shown at all was significant to the plot, which Obito was all along. At the first point,this was just to show why Kakashi have the Sharingan.And now,made all of this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Riku 2,063 Posted August 30, 2012 At the first point,this was just to show why Kakashi have the Sharingan. And now,made all of this... If it was, it was something Kishimoto could have just released in a data book instead of spending all that time. Writers don't just make up as they go along. As much as it seems he doesn't sometimes, Kishimoto does indeed have the plot all planned out. 1 Queen Tery reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanitasTheBest 196 Posted August 30, 2012 This is exactly what I was thinking. If you go back to the Fourth Hokage battle, you'll see 'Tobi's' hair is the exact length and similar style to that of Madara. Not to mention the things Madara said seem to place his death shortly after seeing Nagato as a child. About Obito, I'm thinking Madara or Zetsu saved him right before Obito was about to die, and used his feelings against him. Doesn't 'Tobi' has the same Hair as he helped Itachi to kill his own clan? o: Also Madara just got revived... Revived with the age he had as he died... I'm not sure, but THIS age ... He was this old when he fought Hashirama, so how is it possible that he can give Nagato the Rinnegan so many years later? Does it have something to do with this Hashirama Face on his body? O: Does it make him "live" longer? And then we have to know how he died and most importantly: WHEN? I also want to know why Obito said he was Madara ... I can't see any sense D: But I also think that Zetsu could've saved Obito ... In the fight with Danzous Guards 'Tobi' ripped his own right arm off and it was some sort of glibbery white O: Maybe this was Zetsus doing... Some sort of prosthesis cause of he was crushed (where he nearly died O:) As much as it seems he doesn't sometimes, Kishimoto does indeed have the plot all planned out. Do you really believe this? C'mon, at many points in the history I just can't believe this is planned... For example: Naruto and Sasuke become really close friends and all of a sudden Sasuke betrayes them and goes to Orochimaru ... He goes to Oro-man although he wanted to defy this dark power ~ First he defies it and then he suddenly want it I think Kishimoto made up his mind at some points in the story, so it didn't go as he planned from the beginning Of course, many of the story parts are planned, but I really can't believe everything too O: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
