The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted August 13, 2015 People will always say bad things about Motomu Toriyama games, but the truth is they're always widely successful and sell more copies than even Square Enix expected. Ah, I see. Honestly though, I don't see why the XIII series get so much hate. I think the characters are intriguing, and the stories enticing! Plus, the graphics, voice acting and music are majestic! 1 Sora96 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted August 13, 2015 Ah, I see. Honestly though, I don't see why the XIII series get so much hate. I think the characters are intriguing, and the stories enticing! Plus, the graphics, voice acting and music are majestic! It's just a matter of the the people who hate them being so vocal about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted August 15, 2015 Good for FFXIII and all of its sequels! SQEX should be proud! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outbackjim21 83 Posted August 23, 2015 ...my main gripe with XIII is that it rides VII's metaphorical Johnson too hard. Having the main character be a gender bent version of cloud, on a train with a black guy who uses guns who you later find out has a child he wants to protect. Having the first boss be a scorpion tank. Making the villain of the story mad because daddy isn't home so he has to drop a meteor like object upon the world, not to mention that cocoon itself is just a a cleaner version of midgar. It just lacked imagination on all fronts, borrowing way too much from VII instead of doing its own thing, even xiii-2 took a lot of stuff from chrono trigger instead of doing its own thing, yeul= schala. But in all honesty, the game just wasn't deserving of the FF title, what I wouldn't give for xiii's combat with Xii's open world Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted August 23, 2015 ...my main gripe with XIII is that it rides VII's metaphorical Johnson too hard. Having the main character be a gender bent version of cloud, on a train with a black guy who uses guns who you later find out has a child he wants to protect. Having the first boss be a scorpion tank. Making the villain of the story mad because daddy isn't home so he has to drop a meteor like object upon the world, not to mention that cocoon itself is just a a cleaner version of midgar. It just lacked imagination on all fronts, borrowing way too much from VII instead of doing its own thing, even xiii-2 took a lot of stuff from chrono trigger instead of doing its own thing, yeul= schala. But in all honesty, the game just wasn't deserving of the FF title, what I wouldn't give for xiii's combat with Xii's open world Well it was made by a lot of the same people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outbackjim21 83 Posted August 23, 2015 Well it was made by a lot of the same people. doesn't justify lack of creativity, just shows that sakaguchi held their hands through the creative process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted August 23, 2015 doesn't justify lack of creativity, just shows that sakaguchi held their hands through the creative process. They made FFX with very little from him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outbackjim21 83 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) They made FFX with very little from him. X was good, but that just shows their limit. Only being able to make one good game out of the gate without assistance or using old ideas, but then relying on sequels to main title games because they couldn't do anything else. X and xiii are the only FF titles to have numbered sequels because of lack of creativity/corporate greed. I will be the first to admit that video games are becoming harder to make since the old FFs, but that doesn't excuse picking up darts and throwing them at a dart board made up of old square resources in terms of set pieces, tropes and character arcs. Look at all of the games sakaguchi has made since his departure, blue dragon, last story and probably his magnum opus in terms of story telling, in my opinion, lost odyssey. Sakaguchi is what made FF great. hopefully Kojima can bring back some of that magic that current game developers lack, new ideas and the actual desire to make games gamers want to play. Edited August 23, 2015 by outbackjim21 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 12, 2015 Final Fantasy XIII is standing strong as the 4th highest selling game in the Final Fantasy series. In addition to selling 6.6 million copies worldwide on PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 as of January 2013, it has sold nearly 450,000 copies on Windows PC according to SteamSpy. This also places it as the third highest selling Final Fantasy game on Steam despite only being available for just under a year and less than 50,000 copies behind Final Fantasy VIII. And of course, the game is also available on iOS & Android in Japan in addition to the PS3 version being available on PlayStation Now, however we do not have any numbers for these. The sequel, Final Fantasy XIII-2 also continues to perform well. After shipping 3.1 million copies worldwide for PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 as of January 2013 it has sold nearly 250,000 copies on Windows PC according to SteamSpy. This places it as the 5th highest selling Final Fantasy game on Steam despite only being available for nine months. Final Fantasy XIII-2 is also available digitally for PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 with the PS3 version also available on PlayStation Now. Additionally, it is also available on iOS & Android in Japan via Square Enix's Dive In streaming service. Unfortunately, we do not have any numbers for these releases. However, despite no sales information for the digital console versions or streaming versions we can place Final Fantasy XIII well over 7 million copies sold and its first sequel close to 3.5 million copies at least. 1 WakelessDream reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soravids 1,056 Posted September 12, 2015 Final Fantasy XIII is standing strong as the 4th highest selling game in the Final Fantasy series. In addition to selling 6.6 million copies worldwide on PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 as of January 2013, it has sold nearly 450,000 copies on Windows PC according to SteamSpy. This also places it as the third highest selling Final Fantasy game on Steam despite only being available for just under a year and less than 50,000 copies behind Final Fantasy VIII. And of course, the game is also available on iOS & Android in Japan in addition to the PS3 version being available on PlayStation Now, however we do not have any numbers for these. The sequel, Final Fantasy XIII-2 also continues to perform well. After shipping 3.1 million copies worldwide for PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 as of January 2013 it has sold nearly 250,000 copies on Windows PC according to SteamSpy. This places it as the 5th highest selling Final Fantasy game on Steam despite only being available for nine months. Final Fantasy XIII-2 is also available digitally for PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 with the PS3 version also available on PlayStation Now. Additionally, it is also available on iOS & Android in Japan via Square Enix's Dive In streaming service. Unfortunately, we do not have any numbers for these releases. However, despite no sales information for the digital console versions or streaming versions we can place Final Fantasy XIII well over 7 million copies sold and its first sequel close to 3.5 million copies at least. Never understood why it got so much hate, but thankfully that didn't hurt sales so... Yay!!! Are you sure SteamSpy is accurate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 12, 2015 Never understood why it got so much hate, but thankfully that didn't hurt sales so... Yay!!! Are you sure SteamSpy is accurate? Because people didn't like how linear it was for the first half of the game. Yes, SteamSpy appears to be accurate. All numbers make perfect sense, especially when compared with Square Enix sales information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ven983 490 Posted September 12, 2015 Glad to see that XIII has still done reasonably well despite all the hate that surrounds it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soravids 1,056 Posted September 13, 2015 Always loved XIII Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 15, 2015 Beta will begin soon for PlayStation Now in Japan and Final Fantasy XIII is confirmed to be among the titles available straight away. Final Fantasy XIII-2 is also expected. 1 WakelessDream reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 16, 2015 All 3 titles in the Final Fantasy XIII series are now available on PlayStation Now making the amount of platforms they're playable on quite a large number. Final Fantasy XIII PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Windows PC, iOS, Android, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, PlayStation TV & other PS Now platforms Final Fantasy XIII-2 PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Windows PC, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, PlayStation TV & other PS Now platforms Coming soon to: iOS & Android Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, PlayStation TV & other PS Now platforms Coming soon to: Windows PC, iOS & Android 1 WakelessDream reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Great! Now I can play Hallways: The Game, Hallways 2 (Now with less hallways!) and Hallways 3: Fashionista Extravaganza on my PS4 that I don't own! Edited September 16, 2015 by Kaweebo 10 JBone, Sirillia, HeyMouseSayCheese and 7 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enix 995 Posted September 16, 2015 And yet not available on Wii U..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Congrats for those who uhhh liked the games.... yeah. Edited September 16, 2015 by Flaming Lea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted September 16, 2015 Great! Now I can play Hallways: The Game, Hallways 2 (Now with less hallways!) and Hallways 3: Fashionista Extravaganza on my PS4 that I don't own!Actually Lightning Returns had very little hallways in actuality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 16, 2015 Actually Lightning Returns had very little hallways in actuality. Lightning Returns wasn't linear in the slightest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted September 16, 2015 Lightning Returns wasn't linear in the slightest. Actually Lightning Returns had very little hallways in actuality. The first game was, though. Gotta keep up that brand recognition. It wouldn't make sense to name the first game Hallways and the other ones 'Not so Hallways'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted September 16, 2015 The first game was, though. Gotta keep up that brand recognition. It wouldn't make sense to name the first game Hallways and the other ones 'Not so Hallways'. Should've went with Open World Returns: Final Hallway XIII 2 Hero of Winds and Kaweebo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted September 16, 2015 Should've went with Open World Returns: Final Hallway XIII Ooh, that's good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakelessDream 2,278 Posted September 17, 2015 Hey guys, please keep things on topic, any off-topic discussion should be taken to private. Thanks! 1 Sora96 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 17, 2015 The first game was, though. Gotta keep up that brand recognition. It wouldn't make sense to name the first game Hallways and the other ones 'Not so Hallways'. For the first half then it opened up. And yet not available on Wii U..... Because Square Enix is not supporting the Wii U outside of Virtual Console and DQX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
