Sora is already mature

[Kaweebo 3,617]

The thing Demyx fans seem to forget is that his goofball personality was an act. When he finally confronts Sora, that it is the real Demyx. True he's lazy so he acts like a goofball who's bad at fighting because he doesn't like doing the work, but once he's forced to act he can be just as sadistic as any other Organization member except Larxene. Demyx is like the lead singer of a boy band who acts like a good guy on stage, but when he thinks no one is around, looks down on everyone else. At least that the feeling I got during the battle.

I feel like that interpretation is a little much, but I understand where you're coming from. I don't necessarily agree with it, though, because I feel like we would have had more warning about this 'other side' to Demyx beforehand. At least in 358. 

 

In my opinion, the only reason he gets serious towards Sora is because Sora's a complete jerk towards him. Telling him he should die, he doesn't have a heart, etc. Finally, he'd had enough and decided to lash out. And he puts up a pretty good fight. (I always find him to be pretty hard) But towards the end, when he's dying, he's crying and screaming at the fact that that was how he was going out. He'd never get a chance to gain a heart, to feel emotions, or to go back to his old life again. Because it was snuffed out by someone who had no idea of the consequences of his actions.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Kaweebo

[Aru Akise 2,540]

Ohhh look at all those letters and paragraphs.

 

Words, words everywhere.

 

Mr. Dave, you talk like a sir.

 

Your book opened my eyes and led me to the thought that Sora only needs to grow some brains.

Edited August 20, 2014 by SkyKeybladeHero

[Kittenz 4,281]

Ohhh look at all those letters and paragraphs.

 

Words, words everywhere.

 

Mr. Dave, you talk like a sir.

 

Your book opened my eyes and led me to the thought that Sora only needs to grow some brains.

Sora is intelligent. That's been proven many times

 

*Headdesk* It's like you missed half the point

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I feel like that interpretation is a little much, but I understand where you're coming from. I don't necessarily agree with it, though, because I feel like we would have had more warning about this 'other side' to Demyx beforehand. At least in 358. 

 

In my opinion, the only reason he gets serious towards Sora is because Sora's a complete jerk towards him. Telling him he should die, he doesn't have a heart, etc. Finally, he'd had enough and decided to lash out. And he puts up a pretty good fight. (I always find him to be pretty hard) But towards the end, when he's dying, he's crying and screaming at the fact that that was how he was going out. He'd never get a chance to gain a heart, to feel emotions, or to go back to his old life again. Because it was snuffed out by someone who had no idea of the consequences of his actions.

But why would he get pissed off at Sora for saying the same thing that his boss tells all of them on a regular basis? It's constantly stated by Xehanort (both Saix and Xemnas) that they don't have hearts and therefore don't exist. And we do have subtle hints about his real personality. Whenever you talk to him in Days he always seems to have something negative to say about the other members, mostly about Saix and Larxene who, I'll admit, totally deserve it, but after the C.O. incident he seems quite pleased that everyone involved is gone.

Edited August 21, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[Kaweebo 3,617]

But why would he get pissed off at Sora for saying the same thing that his boss tells all of them on a regular basis? And we do have subtle hints about his real personality. Whenever you talk to him in Days he always seems to have something negative to say about the other members, mostly about Saix and Larxene who, I'll admit, totally deserve it, but after the C.O. incident he seems quite pleased that everyone involved is gone.

I don't think Xemnas tells them on a regular basis. I mean, you never see him during most 'Days' of 358. It's just a 'fact' that everybody knows. He'd get pissed at Sora because he's trying to forget that. That's why he puts up the act of being cowardly, lazy, carefree dude. Because it brings him closer to his original self who had a heart. He's not putting the act up so that it can disguise some murderous or sadistic tendencies. He puts it up so that he doesn't have to face reality that he IS a Nobody, through-and-through.

 

And of course he has negative stuff to say about those two. Larxene is a bitch to everyone and Saix gets on his case about being lazy, and of course he's quite pleased when everyone is gone because he doesn't have feelings to care. 

 

My overall point is that, yes his lazy attitude is an act, but not to disguise some sadistic or evil qualities he may have. He puts it up to remind himself of what he lost and to forget - even temporarily - his true nature. Demyx is a fractured individual who can't live with the fact that he is empty inside.

 

He's not like Marluxia or Xigbar who are truly awful people inside, but try to mask it with polite manners or psyching people out with a funny accent and weird talk, respectively. Demyx tries to mask himself from himself, if you know what I mean.

Edited August 21, 2014 by Kaweebo

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I don't think Xemnas tells them on a regular basis. I mean, you never see him during most 'Days' of 358. It's just a 'fact' that everybody knows. He'd get pissed at Sora because he's trying to forget that. That's why he puts up the act of being cowardly, lazy, carefree dude. Because it brings him closer to his original self who had a heart. He's not putting the act up so that it can disguise some murderous or sadistic tendencies. He puts it up so that he doesn't have to face reality that he IS a Nobody, through-and-through.

 

And of course he has negative stuff to say about those two. Larxene is a bitch to everyone and Saix gets on his case about being lazy, and of course he's quite pleased when everyone is gone because he doesn't have feelings to care. 

 

My overall point is that, yes his lazy attitude is an act, but not to disguise some sadistic or evil qualities he may have. He puts it up to remind himself of what he lost and to forget - even temporarily - his true nature. Demyx is a fractured individual who can't live with the fact that he is empty inside.

If he doesn't have feelings to care, then he has no feelings to hurt. I'm not saying his reason for the act is to hide a sadistic nature, I said it's to get out of work, I just said that he can be sadistic because, like you said, he doesn't have a heart to feel empathy with. My problem is with people acting like Sora was just being a spiteful bully to their sweet, innocent little Demy. Yes, he'd gotten cocky, yes he used trash talk, but he knew he was going to have to fight him eventually so that would be a normal reaction. 

Edited August 21, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno

[Tilia 8]

Someone who has given this much thought and effort into it. It must be true. Good job :smile:

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

This was a very interesting read, and I have to agree that Sora definitely knows how to handle situations with a smile on his face.  He's been the mediator, the person who's always stopped and thought about the current situation at hand, and after all the variables are examined, he takes action.  Sora really does connect with us in that aspect.  We all have a friend who can be like Sora, or we ourselves may find traits of Sora within us.  Sora definitely has been able to handle tough situations.  Just like when he even tried reaching out to Xemnas after battling him in Memory's Skyscraper.  Sora has that willingness inside him to deal with anything, and that does indeed make him mature.  Thank you for helping me realize this.

[Neoshadow99 31]

While I agree with the overall sentiment that Sora is more mature than he acts on occasion, I have to disagree with him being portrayed as a bully to certain Organization members.  We have to keep in mind that all the members of Org. XIII knew what they were getting into and understood their orders from their superiors.  We have seen what happens to members when they deviate from the original plan or have an agenda of their own: they are deemed "traitors" and are eventually executed.  As for Demyx, I've never come to fully understand his character.  He acts carefree and goofy on the outside but certainly feels differently on the inside, as is shown through his actions.  We can't forget that he indeed tried to kill Sora at Hollow Bastion, so there's no way he could truly be a "good guy", unless he was about to betray the Organization and make it look like he was still on their side.  He was definitely in Sora and co.'s way when they were trying to help their friends during the Heartless invasion.