Make Your Voices Heard!

[TheFrozenNobody 124]

we have to step up and tell the people to give us limited edition artbook for kingdom hearts 2.5 like how do they give to mis match cases thats like if someone buys a shoe and you give them one shoe one boot tf? and what really got me was that pin that gave 90% of us wont even use -_-

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

People have got to stop complaining about the pin and pre-order bonuses, seriously it's not worth the effort. Instead take a second to focus on what really matters regarding II.5:

 

Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix & Birth by Sleep Final Mix are finally being released internationally!

 

Really there's actual problems in the world, quit looking the gift horse in the mouth

 

(Copy and pasted this because I'm tired of typing it out)

Edited July 30, 2014 by Ruby Rose

[TheFrozenNobody 124]

"You have lost sight of the light within the darkness. And it seems that you've forgotten that you forgot."— AxelPeople have got to stop complaining about the pin, seriously it's not worth the effort. Instead take a second to focus on what really matters regarding II.5:Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix & Birth by Sleep Final Mix are finally being released internationally!Seriously there's actual problems in the world, quit looking the gift horse in the mouth

i rather them have not given use 1.5 pre order book thing that white case gets dirty easy -_-

[Gamerazor247 877]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. Just give us an artbook or even a KEYCHAINS

One keychain could have been a Data/Corruptes Data Block (Re:coded). Another with a Green wayfinder or MoM insignia (BBS). And KH2... Probably the logo or Crown or roxas zipper.

Edited July 30, 2014 by Gamerazor247

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

i rather them have not given use 1.5 pre order book thing that white case gets dirty easy -_-

I'd rather just get the game itself, so long as I can play BbS fullscreen on my t.v. and Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix I don't care what it comes with

[Keyblader_95 1,410]

"You have lost sight of the light within the darkness. And it seems that you've forgotten that you forgot."— AxelPeople have got to stop complaining about the pin, seriously it's not worth the effort. Instead take a second to focus on what really matters regarding II.5:Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix & Birth by Sleep Final Mix are finally being released internationally!Seriously there's actual problems in the world, quit looking the gift horse in the mouth

I'm not one of those who complain, but I side with those who express their disappoint. I mean, ok it's just a pin and blah, blah, but, as I said thousand times, the pin is not the problem. The act to discriminate is what bugs people. There wouldn't be all this mess around the world if every country had the same Limited Edition. Of course someone would have protested for the pin anyway because it could be considered too little as the extra content of a Limited Edition, but being the same content in all countries wouldn't have moved all this pandemonium

[Master Keeper 687]

In II.5 HD ReMIX, there are two main titles instead of one. So we would expect more than just an artbook and instead of making things cooler they are just rushing the whole thing and giving us a horrible artwork cover with a stupid pin that looks like a fanmad printed picture.I am not saying that all KHIII working team must leave everything they were working on and start making a good limited edition, it doesn't stop on them when there are hundred of other members that can easily just make some cool remarkable items for a cool HD collection.

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

I'm not one of those who complain, but I side with those who express their disappoint. I mean, ok it's just a pin and blah, blah, but, as I said thousand times, the pin is not the problem. The act to discriminate is what bugs people. There wouldn't be all this mess around the world if every country had the same Limited Edition. Of course someone would have protested for the pin anyway because it could be considered too little as the extra content of a Limited Edition, but being the same content in all countries wouldn't have moved all this pandemonium

I'm just gonna copy and paste my response because typing it out again would suckI think you're reading into that a little too much what with the "discriminate" thingThe physical Kingdom Hearts games originate in Japan right? Then they have to export them across the globe via shipping correct? If so, it makes sense their home turf will get more goodies than those who import it. Do you think it's easy or cheap mailing all those pins/art books/collector's editions across the globe? And what if a shipment gets lost or stolen- then you just lost a bunch of moneyNo, it's a lot less risky keeping pre-order bonuses and the like in-country as that leaves far less travel time where things can go wrong. It just makes sense those who are closest (in this case Japan) will get the most stuff as they're already right there, whereas the rest of the world it has to travel a long wayThat's just my theory though, I don't believe Japan is getting these bonuses simply in spite of everyone else

[Keyblader_95 1,410]

I'm just gonna copy and paste my response because typing it out again would suckI think you're reading into that a little too much what with the "discriminate" thingThe physical Kingdom Hearts games originate in Japan right? Then they have to export them across the globe via shipping correct? If so, it makes sense their home turf will get more goodies than those who import it. Do you think it's easy or cheap mailing all those pins/art books/collector's editions across the globe? And what if a shipment gets lost or stolen- then you just lost a bunch of moneyNo, it's a lot less risky keeping pre-order bonuses and the like in-country as that leaves far less travel time where things can go wrong. It just makes sense those who are closest (in this case Japan) will get the most stuff as they're already right there, whereas the rest of the world it has to travel a long wayThat's just my theory though, I don't believe Japan is getting these bonuses simply in spite of everyone else

I just say this: "Final Mixes"

[marukyu 132]

nomura and his japanese comrades are laughing at us and our puny pin

revolt!!!!

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

I just say this: "Final Mixes"

But now the Final Mixes are being released internationally, that argument was only valid before I.5 and II.5

[Geotrix 862]

#TRIANGLEBENASTY

[Totaltarian67 7]

While they may not change the limited edition for 2.5 hopefully we got the point across so they don't make this mistake for 3

[Keyblader_95 1,410]

But now the Final Mixes are being released internationally, that argument was only valid before I.5 and II.5

I know, you said the right word: "now". HD Collections were pretty much "last minute" like Kingdom Hearts 3D, and I think they decided to make remasters not only to allow fans to catch up with the series, but also because it became a popular usage among VG developers (not to mention all the money they earned). If they never decided to make these HD remasters, non-Japanese countries wouldn't ever had the chance to play the complete version of the original games. It would be fine if they always had in mind to eventually release Final Mixes worldwide, but this is just a case and we were lucky. (well I played the Final Mixes anyway and way before they thought to make HD remasters, but as I said it's the act that bothers me)

[chrisora2066 26]

Japan didn't get the artbook for 1.5 this time it's their turn #SquarebeingFair... Sorta

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

I know, you said the right word: "now". HD Collections were pretty much "last minute" like Kingdom Hearts 3D, and I think they decided to make remasters not only to allow fans to catch up with the series, but also because it became a popular usage among VG developers (not to mention all the money they earned). If they never decided to make these HD remasters, non-Japanese countries wouldn't ever had the chance to play the complete version of the original games. It would be fine if they always had in mind to eventually release Final Mixes worldwide, but this is just a case and we were lucky. (well I played the Final Mixes anyway and way before they thought to make HD remasters, but as I said it's the act that bothers me)

But that returns to my earlier point regarding shipping- on the American market special editions of imported games that had already been released once tend to have poor sales, so there wouldn't be nearly enough money in releasing the Final Mixes outside of Japan (where the main and original fanbase is) as most people who bought the original game wouldn't drop another $30-$40 for a few new Keyblades, enemies, and cutscenesFrom a business standpoint it only made sense not to waste money on a gamble in exporting them internationally, but have an HD remake and bundling games together, in today's market that will more likely net you better moneyThe Final Mixes weren't kept in Japan simply to discriminate, but rather Square wouldn't see enough profit to warrant doing so, not to mention paying to ship them out

[FutureKeybearer 36]

Yes, we should get the same stuff as Japan. But it's not worth all this trouble.

[Keyblader_95 1,410]

But that returns to my earlier point regarding shipping- on the American market special editions of imported games that had already been released once tend to have poor sales, so there wouldn't be nearly enough money in releasing the Final Mixes outside of Japan (where the main and original fanbase is) as most people who bought the original game wouldn't drop another $30-$40 for a few new Keyblades, enemies, and cutscenesFrom a business standpoint it only made sense not to waste money on a gamble in exporting them internationally, but have an HD remake and bundling games together, in today's market that will more likely net you better moneyThe Final Mixes weren't kept in Japan simply to discriminate, but rather Square wouldn't see enough profit to warrant doing so, not to mention paying to ship them out

Actually I remember well the raging reactions of non-Japanese fans when Square Enix announced the Final Mixes as Japanese exclusives.. And the principal receipts of money come from North America

[MasterXemnas 2,285]

Fool. They're doing us a favor by giving us the remix for $40. What more do we need?

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

Actually I remember well the raging reactions of non-Japanese fans when Square Enix announced the Final Mixes as Japanese exclusives.. And the principal receipts of money come from North America

Yes non-Japanese fans bought the original version, but only so many diehard fans would've dropped an additional $30-$40 on what's virtually the same game- there wasn't enough money until they added more features to net a wider amount of potential customers outside of JapanSquare looks for target profits, if it doesn't look like a project will reach the target amount it isn't worth it, as was the case with the original Final Mixes

[JTD95 1,107]

we have to step up and tell the people to give us limited edition artbook for kingdom hearts 2.5 like how do they give to mis match cases thats like if someone buys a shoe and you give them one shoe one boot tf? and what really got me was that pin that gave 90% of us wont even use -_-

 

What is this logic? It's as if Japan is buying a set of shoes and gets a tiny meaningless pin as a bonus where as the rest of the world just get the shoes. That's a proper representation of the situation.

 

As said, we are getting KH2FM and BBSFM finally outside of Japan, and people are bitching and moaning about firetrucking pin!? I bet you, every single piece of artwork in that book is probably already available online.

[Caity 3,946]

Square has already mentioned that making sure the cases match up side by side is important to them.  Additionally people need to stop comparing a collector's edition that's $130 converted with an additional art figure costing $82 extra with a version that's what, around $40-$60 I assume in the US?  $210 for the JP one converted from the Japanese price vs a (let's say) $50 version in the US, of course the JP one's gonna be better.

 

Outside of FM (since we are getting them, additionally the FM editions include content that was added to NA/EU/AUS editions that weren't in the original Japanese version, like Phantom, Ice Titan and Kurt Zisa for example weren't in the original Japanese version, then a few extras added in to make it more valuable to buy)

 

NA got the DDD MoM edition, coded decals preorder bonus, a PSP bundle with artcards for BBS, a 1.5 artbook + dynamic theme

Japan got none of that.  EU/AUS only got the 1.5 artbook and just 2 AR cards with DDD.

Japan tends to get box bundles with multiple games and then a bonus thrown in for extra money, but none with the original releases.  Like the 10th Anniversary box that had days, coded and DDD, the Collector's pack of 2.5 and 1.5, KH2FM+ with Re:COM and KH2FM.  They also get some themed consoles like a Days DSi or COM Gameboy.

There's one case where EU got the better end of the stick (least with KH series) and got a BBS special edition with a hardback artbook and art cards.  

 

I think it would make more sense to complain about release dates since so many of us could be spoiled for KH3 if it comes out early in Japan, but nope.  SquareBeFair and alike are just "Dear Santa I want a keychain, a wayfinder, a full sized keyblade, 3 figures, a goat, a lock of Nomura's hair, an artbook, some posters and a chunk of KH3 profits with 2.5 LE for the same $50 price"

[Keyblader_95 1,410]

Yes non-Japanese fans bought the original version, but only so many diehard fans would've dropped an additional $30-$40 on what's virtually the same game- there wasn't enough money until they added more features to net a wider amount of potential customers outside of JapanSquare looks for target profits, if it doesn't look like a project will reach the target amount it isn't worth it, as was the case with the original Final Mixes

For the Kingdom Hearts I Final Mix ok, you're right, but I'm quite sure the reaction was bigger regarding Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+. Actually the fandom started to complain about disequality right after this first (more substantial) protest! I know Square Enix pretty much looks mainly for profit but should this allow them to (for instance) interrupt the European shippings just because we provide them the most insignificant profit? I'm not "hating" for no reason or whatever, I just say they often treat us as if we were cockroaches, and I think no one can deny it, right?

[Oishii 3,987]

Square Enix has already commented that the size of the KH2.5 LE case is going to be the same dimensions as the KH1.5 LE case.  They're going to us the space inside the case to hold the pin as well as make it a nice display for it.  I read this on their website but I don't have a link to it.  I'll look for it, though.

[Power Jusho 1,783]

If we keep on say "We're getting a pin, at least that's something", we're just letting Square Enix give us cheap bonuses. If we tell Square to just be fair to everyone else with the bonus, there would be not outrage for it. I mean seriously, we went from a nice-looking artwork, to an unoriginal pin you could probably find at a Disney theme park. What was the point of doing the survey if they were going to give out the pin in the first place?! We could've gotten another artbook, a Wayfinder, a figure, soundtrack, heck, i think I saw a poster on there! If Square can give a figurine, a soundtrack, an artbook, and another game to Japan then Square should do the same to everywhere else. I don't know why everyone can't have the same bonus?! #SquareBeFair