Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Pretty sure the only reason Oswald is popular is because of Epic Mickey. Just Saiyan. WELL... uh... er... m-maybe... But on to the other points: Look, all I want is for the reason he's in the game is to APPEAR to make sense. Also, just to push the envelope even further, why would Oswald help Mickey? Why would he even be in the Realm Of Darkness? Isn't the concept of Oswald (at least to most people) is that he's an antagonist towards Mickey? I know that earlier you pointed out he could be an ally, but seriously, I really think that he's more suited to be a bad guy. Well of course that's the only reason, he was out of commission for decades. Without Epic Mickey, no one would even know who he is. But without Steam Boat Willie no one would know who Mickey is, without FF VII no one would know who Cloud is, without the first KH no one would know who Sora is. Epic Mickey may not of been Oswald's first appearance, but it may as well have been for how many people even knew he existed. This is Nomura we're talking about, he can find a way even if none of us can think of it. No one thought FF and Disney could mesh to begin with but look what happened? Oswald isn't an antagonist, he's just jealous not evil. More of an Anti-hero Edited July 19, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Well of course that's the only reason, He was out of commission for decades without Epic Mickey, no one would even know who he is. But without Steam Boat Willy no one would know who Mickey is, without FF VIII no one would know who Cloud is, without the first KH no one would know who Sora is. Epic Mickey may not of been Oswald's first appearance, but it may as well have been for how many people even knew he existed. Oswald isn't an antagonist, he's just jealous not evil. More of an Anti-hero Yeah but all he did was act like a jackass. There's literally nothing else to him. Jealous of knowing that Mickey is a much better version of him which is also why he was trying to STEAL HIS HEART in Epic Mickey. EVIL! Edited July 18, 2014 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted July 18, 2014 Why rival? Why not ally? Besides, unless he had a Keyblade he couldn't really be considered Mickey's rival because rivals have to at least be able to be competition. He doesn't need to have a Keyblade to be a rival. To be a rival he only needs to be able to hold up a fight. Whether he fights himself, has others to fight for him or something else which makes him a treat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted July 18, 2014 Also: what does that mean? D: Of course there is something to achieve, we got a creepy old man and his army of clones trying to take over the world! Furthermore, how is throwing in the failed version of Mickey Mouse going to help that? It's funny that you mention that: the entire plotline of Xehanort, his clones, the X-Blade, 13 darks vs 7 lights, etc, were all introduced extremely late in the overarching plotline, and superimposed upon everything that came before, often awkwardly and without making sense to the preexisting canon. BBS and DDD both invented plot points and devices and then retconned other parts of the series in order to make them work (Nobodies growing hearts and the point of Organization XIII, for instance). The point is, Nomura is no stranger to simply inserting things into the plot and then making vague reasons as to why they exist and work in sync with the other games. If he wanted to force-feed Oswald into the plot, it certainly wouldn't be anything new from what he's done before. 1 Cucco reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) It's funny that you mention that: the entire plotline of Xehanort, his clones, the X-Blade, 13 darks vs 7 lights, etc, were all introduced extremely late in the overarching plotline, and superimposed upon everything that came before, often awkwardly and without making sense to the preexisting canon. BBS and DDD both invented plot points and devices and then retconned other parts of the series in order to make them work (Nobodies growing hearts and the point of Organization XIII, for instance). The point is, Nomura is no stranger to simply inserting things into the plot and then making vague reasons as to why they exist and work in sync with the other games. If he wanted to force-feed Oswald into the plot, it certainly wouldn't be anything new from what he's done before. .... uh... n-no comment.. Edited July 18, 2014 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah but all he did was act like a jackass. There's literally nothing else to him. Jealous of knowing that Mickey is a much better version of him which is also why he was trying to STEAL HIS HEART in Epic Mickey. EVIL! They made up in the end though, remember? The version of Oswald in KH III could be closer to his Power of Illusion or Epic Mickey 2 version. Have you played either of those? Or even read a synopsis? He's a much more agreeable character in those. They could just make a vague mention about their past with Oswald saying something like "Sorry for... everything. I was in a bad place." He doesn't need to have a Keyblade to be a rival. To be a rival he only needs to be able to hold up a fight. Whether he fights himself, has others to fight for him or something else which makes him a treat. Maybe, but it seems like the Keyblade kind of trumps everything, doesn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted July 18, 2014 They made up in the end though, remember? The version of Oswald in KH III could be closer to his Power of Illusion or Epic Mickey 2 version. Have you played either of those? Or even read a synopsis? He's a much more agreeable character in those. They could just make a vague mention about their past with Oswald saying something like "Sorry for... everything. I was in a bad place." No, because they sucked. And... I... *sigh* You win. I think I understand now. Now stop throwing logic at my face, know it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fierce Deity Link 926 Posted July 18, 2014 I could see Oswald showing up in a Timeless River kind of deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keyblader_95 1,410 Posted July 18, 2014 Why people wants him? He's a bunny, Jesus. Need I say more? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WakingDawn96 1,166 Posted July 18, 2014 Oswald is the original Disney character! And plus if they could put Julius in KH3D, then why can't they put Oswald in at some point? I like Oswald and no matter what anyone says about him, I will always like him. 1 Cucco reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rocky Shoe 169 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Why can`t they just not include the Epic Mickey Canon and instead use the Oswald from 50-70 years ago? Edited July 18, 2014 by The Rocky Shoe 1 Oishii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oishii 3,987 Posted July 18, 2014 Pretty sure the only reason Oswald is popular is because of Epic Mickey. Just Saiyan. Actually, as far as Japan goes, Oswald became popular before the idea of Epic Mickey was conceived. They started making Oswald merchandise in 2005 and became so popular they were included in UFO catchers (which are everywhere in Japan). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted July 18, 2014 I see him appear in a side game mayby just mayby. Don't know better not I want Mickey to be unique. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted July 19, 2014 Meant to google Oswald the Rabbit but accidentally clicked Oswald of Carim I mean, I wouldn't object to a Dark Souls and KH crossover but... I would buy that game nine times. 4 Zola, Keyblade Guardian, Cucco and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeHero94 32 Posted July 19, 2014 Well, I'll be honest. I dont know who that is lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeYenrz 276 Posted July 19, 2014 Hey, don't make me sound like an asshole, I just DON'T GET IT.-_- I'm not saying anybody who believes the opposite is wrong, or an idiot, or a sack of shit, or anything like that. I. Do Not. Get It. And you know what, the reason I'm even presenting it this way is so that other people who do get it can convince me otherwise. As you so clearly said (even though it was so sarcastically put), human beings can have different opinions. I agree with you somewhat. Oswald doesn't have a place in the Xehanort Saga. But I believe that he can have a place in the next one. Like in KH4 or something. Certainly in that game he can be a part of a new world and be a new plot device in a new plot. He'll just be a new character. In fact, he can be a minor character. New characters get introduced in new plots. it makes sense, right? 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 20, 2014 Why can`t they just not include the Epic Mickey Canon and instead use the Oswald from 50-70 years ago? I already do. As far as I'm concerned, Castle of Illusion, Epic Mickey, Power of Illusion and Epic Mickey 2 all take place between Chi and BbS. I know they're not canon and Square has nothing to do with them but IDC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esu1549 26 Posted July 20, 2014 This is a good idea! That way everyone will be happy. For Oswald fans, he'll make an appearance. For those who hate him, he won't be PERMANENTLY in the game. Eerybody wins! Also, I don't really care about Oswald being in there or not. I just really want to revisit the Timeless River! That was one of my favorite worlds! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FutureKeybearer 36 Posted July 29, 2014 It's more of a matter of "Why not?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aru Akise 2,540 Posted July 29, 2014 I certainly don't care for THAT characater haha. Let's have Pete's wife in a game and see how it works out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DxBEATLESxD 12 Posted July 29, 2014 Lol oswald is the master mind behind the whole series he's controlling xehanort with mind control, And mickey knows it he's just keeping it a secret so everyone dosent think he's a traitor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites