atheist123 583 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) An idea that has been floating around in my head is, what if a Princess of Heart "dies" in Kingdom Hearts III (or in the future)? And what happens to the Princesses of Heart when the 7 Lights eventually clash with the 13 Darkness' and the X-blade forms? In my mind there are three ways that a Princess can "die": 1) Her heart can be extracted by a Keyblade, to be used during the formation of a "Keyblade of People's Hearts" (what happened to the Princesses, except Kairi, in KH1) 2) A Princess' heart being removed from her body through non-Keyblade methods (whatever happened to Kairi in KH1.. Heartless? Darkness? I can't remember..) 3) Natural causes, actual death, not heart extraction. I know many people would think this is crazy or hearsay, but think about it. As far as we know, Kairi is a normal girl (besides being a Princess of Heart, a Keyblade Wielder, Aqua's successor, and awesome in general) who was born like any other Kingdom Hearts character, spawning from Kingdom Hearts and being carried away via a Stork. So she should die naturally. Since a Princess of Heart's heart is formed from a fragment of the original X-blade, and it is assumed that the X-blade can't be destroyed, the Light fragment of the X-blade should still exist after death, and would likely find another host. So if one of the Princesses dies in the events of KH3, her X-blade fragment might go to a new person thus forming a new PoH. More realistic is the idea that Xehanort may be able to extract the X-blade fragment from a Princess of Heart's heart. Maybe once the 7 Lights clash with the 13 Darkness', the scattered fragments of the X-blade, wherever they may be, might leave their hosts permanently. I don't know how an X-blade forms exactly, but it makes sense that there should only be one X-blade. So the 13 Dark fragments, wherever they are, and the 7 Light fragments inside the Princesses would have to leave their host's bodies in order for a true X-blade to form. After the destruction of the new X-blade, the fragments might go to new Princesses. So for Kingdom Hearts IV, the basic plot could be going to new worlds to find and protect the Princesses from a threat. If Kairi loses her status as a Princess of Heart, that would certainly be interesting character development. I don't think that Disney will allow their Princesses to be killed outright, but them losing their Princess of Heart powers in the aftermath of Kingdom Hearts III would be within the creative freedom that Square Enix have. The end result of this might be that Anna, Pocahontas, Rapunzel, Merida, or some other Disney Princess could replace some of the current Princesses of Heart. This would give plot reasons to introduce Frozen, Brave, Tangled, The Princess and the Frog, or Pocahontas worlds to Kingdom Hearts. TLDR: Get ready for Anna and Elsa to be Princesses of Heart in KHIV. Edited July 5, 2014 by atheist123 2 The Transcendent Key and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) Well in Kairi's case, she sensed the Darkness and instinctively tried to protect her heart from it by hiding it within another, Basically Kairi somehow removed her own heart without a Keyblade But Come to think of it,We don't know a lot about how the fragments of light became the Princesses hearts so whose to say they can't be transferred. Of course that would mean the Princess heart's would then have darkness and no longer be pure light. Of course it's also possible that a X-Blade fragment cannot be transferred. All we know is that if the Princesses disappear, the worlds will be plunged into darkness. On a side note, after BbS I have been convinced that the "Darkblade" made from the captive princesses heart was another botched attempt at forging the X-Blade. Edited July 5, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno 2 The Transcendent Key and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyper-Rushe 17 Posted July 5, 2014 extracting hearts doesn't kill it just puts you in a coma until your hearts is returned so your first two "deaths" are very unlikely. the fragments of the X-blade are not "in" their hearts it "is" their hearts so nothing short of death or completely changing the timeline, impossible by their own rules of time travel, to change history will change this. Remember their fragments were taken before and they all fell into a coma so if it happens again and the X-blade breaks again then either the fragments return to the original princesses or they all die, like ventus was suppose to, and the worlds are swallowed by darkness as they are not protected by the 7 pure princesses. So your scenario is pretty much impossible. Plus switching out very important characters just so you can replace them with someone newer that might be liked more screams "bad fix fic". characters don't need special powers just to be important to the story. 2 Robbie the Wise and The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted July 5, 2014 extracting hearts doesn't kill it just puts you in a coma until your hearts is returned so your first two "deaths" are very unlikely. the fragments of the X-blade are not "in" their hearts it "is" their hearts so nothing short of death or completely changing the timeline, impossible by their own rules of time travel, to change history will change this. Remember their fragments were taken before and they all fell into a coma so if it happens again and the X-blade breaks again then either the fragments return to the original princesses or they all die, like ventus was suppose to, and the worlds are swallowed by darkness as they are not protected by the 7 pure princesses. So your scenario is pretty much impossible. Plus switching out very important characters just so you can replace them with someone newer that might be liked more screams "bad fix fic". characters don't need special powers just to be important to the story. Yeah, that's why I put "dies" in speech marks, meaning not literally dying. To me it means putting the Princesses in a state where it's difficult for them to return to normal. It's possible that the Princesses may be put into a coma forever which to me means that they are pretty much dead. I disagree with the notion that their hearts are defined entirely by the X-blade fragments. They have their own experiences which contribute to their heart. If Roxas and other Nobodies can grow Hearts, then surely the Princesses of Heart aren't entirely X-blade fragments? Sora isn't simply Ventus, he has his own heart as well. Maybe you are right, and their hearts are just X-blade fragments, but I feel that they are their own people as well as being Princesses of Heart. We know that the Princesses of Heart's hearts were removed by Maleficent/Xehanort but that doesn't necessarily mean that they were targeting simply the X-blade fragments. They extracted the Princesses' Hearts in their entirety, while the formation of the X-blade (from what we know so far) is the result of 7 Guardians of Light clashing with 13 Darknesses. It is a symbolic clash of Darkness and Light which may cause the original X-blade fragments to join together. The actual mechanic isn't well defined, so it is just speculation at this point. And to address your last point, Kingdom Hearts has been bad fan fiction since at least KH2. I mean, really, Kairi getting a Keyblade? Lea getting a keyblade? All the characters who died in KH2 returning? We still don't know exactly if this batch of Princesses is the original batch of Princesses of Light or not. Supposedly the Princesses rebuilt the world after the Keyblade War, but why don't any of them remember doing that? And why are they different ages (why are Alice and Kairi so much younger than the others)? Why has Kairi aged but the others haven't? If the Keyblade War happened before Xehanort was born, then Kairi and the other Princesses should at least be 80 years old. 80 Years Old. All these facts make me feel that X-blade fragments reincarnate as new Princesses' of Light. Time flows differently in the Kingdom Hearts world, but it seems like the simpler explanation is that these Princesses of Heart aren't the original Princesses. Maybe people only age in non-Disney worlds (which does make some sense, but that means that Kairi was raised in some Disney world before moving to Radiant Garden). Maybe the Princesses periodically forget everything about their pasts (it happened to Kairi once, so maybe it's common for Princesses?). In conclusion, the exact nature of Princesses of Heart and X-blade fragments are not very consistent in my mind. A lot of unanswered questions. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted July 5, 2014 Reincarnation is a very Japanese idea, so I think Princesses of Light being reincarnations of previous ones makes sense. Heck, we don't even know if people are born biologically. Maybe everyone is immortal, but they just have short term memory loss. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AuraAce 1,126 Posted July 5, 2014 Well. For starters. The X-Blade or the Kye/Chi-Blade is forged when light and dark of equal power collide, for example, Ventus and Vanitas, they were both light and dark and they were both of equal power. The Princess of Light on the other hand had their hearts trapped within the Blade of People's Hearts, the possibility with the Princesses is that instead of clash lights and darknesses of equal power, they could forge the Blade of People's Hearts with the 7 Princesses of Light and use that to clash with a member of the 13 Darknesses despite the fact that the blade is darkness in essence, it has the power of light bestowed on it as the Princesses of Light's hearts are within it, meaning Xehanort could sacrifice a member of high strength, possibly Vanitas, possibly Terranort, maybe even himself, to forge the X-Blade. Added to that, doing what i just mentioned to Terranort would presumably release Xehanort and Terra's heart. 4 The Transcendent Key, Robbie the Wise, Neptune Vasilias and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) This is an interesting theory you have posed here, and well, in general, the very nature of the Princesses of Heart is a mystery. This clash that will form the X-Blade will most certainly be an event of high risk. Because seriously, don't tell me that in the final battle absolutely no one gets hurt, because no matter how hard you try, somebody always ends up getting hurt. And about the princesses not being the original princesses, I think that's where Nomura logic kicks in. Remember that Disney characters don't age, so that's why the princesses look relatively young, although I do like your idea of reincarnation, it does seem interesting and believable. But I also think that because the princesses have the seven shards of lights, it's by having them, that's what makes them eternally young. ^_^ Edited July 5, 2014 by Golden Fighter 1 atheist123 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) This is an interesting theory you have posed here, and well, in general, the very nature of the Princesses of Heart is a mystery. This clash that will form the X-Blade will most certainly be an event of high risk. Because seriously, don't tell me that in the final battle absolutely no one gets hurt, because no matter how hard you try, somebody always ends up getting hurt. And about the princesses not being the original princesses, I think that's where Nomura logic kicks in. Remember that Disney characters don't age, so that's why the princesses look relatively young, although I do like your idea of reincarnation, it does seem interesting and believable. But I also think that because the princesses have the seven shards of lights, it's by having them, that's what makes them eternally young. ^_^ Yeah, that could be right. I think some characters age.. Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Pete must have aged a little bit since the Timeless River. And Tarzan must have been a kid at some point (since I think there are flashbacks). Unless, of course, their memories are false. This seems like something very common in Kingdom Hearts games, what with everyone forgetting about Sora, Namine manipulating memories, etc. So the Princesses of Heart could have forgotten about the aftermath of the Keyblade War... Kairi forgot about Radiant Garden, as I said before. One possibility is that the Disney worlds could be trapped in time loops, with everyone repeating their entire lives (or a few years) without them knowing. I don't know how I feel about that idea tbh haha.. I think there is evidence that Disney characters age at least a little bit, as they do mature in personality and things do happen to them. Maybe, like the Realm of Darkness, time flows slowly in Disney worlds. So the 80+ years that have happened in Destiny Islands is equivalent to 16-20 years in Disney Princess Worlds, the 10 years that Alice has been alive for, and Kairi has been in a world (Radiant Garden) where 70 or so years in Destiny Islands only aged her biologically by 4-5 years. And once she moves to Destiny Islands she started aging at the same rate as Sora and Riku? Edited July 5, 2014 by atheist123 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted July 5, 2014 This is an interesting theory you have posed here, and well, in general, the very nature of the Princesses of Heart is a mystery. This clash that will form the X-Blade will most certainly be an event of high risk. Because seriously, don't tell me that in the final battle absolutely no one gets hurt, because no matter how hard you try, somebody always ends up getting hurt. And about the princesses not being the original princesses, I think that's where Nomura logic kicks in. Remember that Disney characters don't age, so that's why the princesses look relatively young, although I do like your idea of reincarnation, it does seem interesting and believable. But I also think that because the princesses have the seven shards of lights, it's by having them, that's what makes them eternally young. ^_^I disagree time each world spins on it's own time axis just because ten years bad passed in the overall story arc doesn't mean that each individual world follows that precise measure of time.Remember Kairi is a PoH and has aged plenty. It's perfectly plausible to say the princesses look the same age because of that rule. Also Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Aurora and Cinderella are all in the prime of their youth they wouldn't change in appearance that much even if they did age rapidly. I find it more believable that the status of PoH is passed down from generation to generation. 2 Hyper-Rushe and Neptune Vasilias reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helios X 6 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) According to Yen-Sid's words, the light of the X-Blade split into 7 to guard the number of pure hearts in the world. It seems that the GoL are the fragments of the X-Blade rather than the princesses as its light split in accordance to the number of pure hearts in the world which leads us to believe the light of X-Blade broke into seven for each pure heart to have their own guardian. It would make sense this way since after all the X-Blade's original purpose was to protect Kingdom Hearts. It would make sense that its seven fragments would behave in a similar way. As for the princesses, their hearts are the remaining pure hearts of those children who survived the Keybalde War. Somehow they became a substitue for Kingdom Hearts and they are now the source of light for what is now known as the realm of light and they managed to rebuild the world into smaller divided worlds. Without them darkness takes over. Edited December 28, 2015 by Helios X Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites