Firaga 5,947 Posted June 12, 2014 This sort of topic on this character might be a little irrelevant, but then again, so is Kairi's grandmother. I'm just kidding. Now as the title says, I'm talking about the character, who we have not seen nor has really confirmed to really exist, of Eraqus' and Xehanort's Keyblade Master, the one that taught them everything they know and most likely helped shape their points of view on Keyblades, Light, Darkness, and Kingdom Hearts itself. And considering that those silhouettes in the Kingdom Hearts III trailer were possibly Xehanort and Eraqus themselves (but younger obviously) and discussed "their master", its very likely we might see him/her in the future. I'm just very curious to know more about this person because it's already really mysterious to just how the world of Kingdom Hearts was before and right after the Keyblade War, and this Master person could be an intergral piece to that puzzle, being a Keyblade user that came before Eraqus and Xehanort, who canonically are the oldest generation of Keyblade users we've seen in the actual plot of the games. We don't even know that much about Eraqus and Xehanort themselves. How did they become Keyblade users? How did they become sibling students? How did Eraqus become so ingulded with the forces of Light while Xehanort become indulged with Darkness? There's a lot of questions to answer with these two, their Master can help answer them quite well if the chance was given. We might even be able to know how the whole seperation of Light and Dark Keyblade users were formed. Maybe there are other Keyblade users like the Master and maybe they are the supposed whole of users that are for some reason not present in the current time and age of the Kingdom Hearts world. I mean, they probably just died of old age, but still, doesn't it make you think? That's basically what I feel in a nutshell. There's a lot of questions not yet answered in the Kingdom Hearts lore, and this is one I would very much like to see an answer to in the future, and considering the magnitude that Kingdom Hearts III is building itself up to have, I think I'll get my answer in some form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted June 12, 2014 It's Yen Sid. Being totally serious here. That's what I've always thought since BbS and I've seen nothing to dissuade me. 1 roxion reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted June 12, 2014 What if it's actually Sora? Going full circle. And the great Keyblade War is actually the one in KH 3? (joking) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elijah Gravenhorst 480 Posted June 12, 2014 It's this guy. 1 teh lazy prince Xylek reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted June 12, 2014 It's Walt Disney. 2 teh lazy prince Xylek and Zola reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted June 12, 2014 What if it's actually Sora? Going full circle. And the great Keyblade War is actually the one in KH 3? (joking) To be honest, I can almost see this happening. I'd hate it, though, because it's too similar to FF1's plot of a never-ending paradox. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxion 42 Posted June 12, 2014 Yen Sid maybe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted June 12, 2014 It's Yen Sid. Being totally serious here. That's what I've always thought since BbS and I've seen nothing to dissuade me. Absolutely nothing indicates that he was their master. Yen Sid most likely trained alongside them. Either under the same master or someone else. Eraqus refers to Yen Sid as an old friend, not "my master" and such. If Yen Sid was their master we'd know it by know. Withholding such information to create a twist later on would be stupid. 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted June 12, 2014 Absolutely nothing indicates that he was their master. Yen Sid most likely trained alongside them. Either under the same master or someone else. Eraqus refers to Yen Sid as an old friend, not "my master" and such. If Yen Sid was their master we'd know it by know. Withholding such information to create a twist later on would be stupid. They never said he wasn't either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted June 12, 2014 I agree with both Isamu_Kuno and JTD95. Absolutely nothing told us Yen Sid was their master; but I also believed he was. Actually, in that particular scene, I totally understood Eraqus was referring to Yen Sid as an old mentor. Later I realized we were never told so, but I believed it for 2-3 years. Do what we do, Firaga: Unless we are told otherwise, believe whatever you wish. For me, he is totally their master 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted June 12, 2014 They never said he wasn't either. No they haven't directly said it but it's pretty obvious that he isn't. If he was their master we would have known it by now. And if he does turn our to be their master, why did it take so long for the games to reveal that? What is there to gain from it? What do they accomplish with waiting so long with revealing that Yen Sid was their master? Nothing. A ridiculous unneeded twist is all they accomplish. Wouldn't it have made sense for him to at one point when talking to Sora and Riku to mention that "oh hey, you know that dude Master Xehanort, the insanely powerful Keyblade master? Yeah, I trained him". There is nothing that indicates that he was their master, and the game would not benefit from making it so in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) No they haven't directly said it but it's pretty obvious that he isn't. If he was their master we would have known it by now. And if he does turn our to be their master, why did it take so long for the games to reveal that? What is there to gain from it? What do they accomplish with waiting so long with revealing that Yen Sid was their master? Nothing. A ridiculous unneeded twist is all they accomplish. Wouldn't it have made sense for him to at one point when talking to Sora and Riku to mention that "oh hey, you know that dude Master Xehanort, the insanely powerful Keyblade master? Yeah, I trained him". There is nothing that indicates that he was their master, and the game would not benefit from making it so in the future. I can see hints. Yen Sid begin retired for one show that he was a Master long before either of them. Couple that whit yen Sid knowing how disobedient a student Xehanort was, which Eraqus didn't find out himself until much later tell me he was their master. Compare to Dumbledore and Voldemort, we didn't learn Dumbledore was the one who brought Tom Riddle to Hogwarts in the first place until book six. Why? because there was no reason nor opportunity to do so until then. Then there's the possibility that Yen Sid is ashamed of what his former student has become, in which case he wouldn't want to mention it unless absolutely necessary. Plus having Yen Sid be their master would have much more of an impact than some random new character we know nothing about and will probably never see again. Edited June 12, 2014 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingdombladesventus 53 Posted June 12, 2014 I don't know how people would react to this, but, I think Kairi's grandmother is related to the Keyblade War (I think this should be obvious, since all we know for now, the war is old for sure). After reading the first post and everyone else posts, I think Kairi's grandmother knows something about the war, either she or her parents, or just ancestors were involved in it and the surviors of that war passed down what happened. So, the grandmother, to me, is either the survior or she just passed down information to Kairi from what she learned from her parents/familiy. As Kairi said, if I could remember it correctly, "That story has more meaning to it." Then again, if Xehanort or Eraqus talked about the "Lost Masters," then the grandmother couldn't be a survior of the war, well, depends on age, which isn't likely, I think. I just want to say, Kairi's grandmother or family in general, might be linked to the Keyblade War somehow, even in theory maybe. Just think about it, if you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted June 12, 2014 No they haven't directly said it but it's pretty obvious that he isn't. If he was their master we would have known it by now. And if he does turn our to be their master, why did it take so long for the games to reveal that? What is there to gain from it? What do they accomplish with waiting so long with revealing that Yen Sid was their master? Nothing. A ridiculous unneeded twist is all they accomplish. Wouldn't it have made sense for him to at one point when talking to Sora and Riku to mention that "oh hey, you know that dude Master Xehanort, the insanely powerful Keyblade master? Yeah, I trained him". There is nothing that indicates that he was their master, and the game would not benefit from making it so in the future. For me, I just don't think it would be a ''plot twist''. For me it is not a big deal, really. It was probably 40-50 years ago. I just like to think Yen Sid was this big badass with the Star Seeker, but I don't care if they make it an important plot point or anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nweintraub 630 Posted June 12, 2014 It's not Yen Sid. Yen Sid was one of Eraqus & Xehanort's classmates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shulk 8,623 Posted June 12, 2014 He was mentioned in Xehanort's Letter from BBS, but that letter told us all that we know about him so far. My guess is that he's a character that we haven't seen yet. 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
