Build from scratch?

[PikaLink91 58]

As I'm sure everyone knows, Square, prior to 1.5's release, stated in an interview that the original programming for Kingdom Hearts 1 had been lost, and that 1.5 therefore had to be re-build from scratch. My question though, if this is the case, then how come KHFMHD looks exactly identcal to the original game? Will you tell me that the team photographically remembered exactly how every cutscene played out down to smallest detail, and how everything in the game looked and functioned?

 

Or am I misunderstanding the term "build from scratch"?

[Sorarocks93 678]

I believe they ripped it from a CD and worked from there.

[Caity 3,946]

Far as I was aware they looked at an actual copy of the game. 

• Nomura: “Kingdom Hearts 1 was created a long, long time ago, so actually the original data was lost. So, we had to research and we had to dig out from the actual games available, and recreate everything for HD. We had to recreate graphics, and it was actually not that easy.”"

[Sora96 17,256]

The original assets for all Square Soft games with the exception of FINAL FANTASY X-2 and FINAL FANTASY XI were lost.

[peronmls 45]

Nomura isn't very good at understanding things and explaining it back. It's like playing phone. He's not a tecnology person he's an artist. They reversed the retail disc. They programmed everything from scratch and used higher quality models from their previous games. Though some graphical effect were actual generate by the PS2 and not textures. Stuff like this:

 

Nothing more nothing less.

Edited July 12, 2014 by peronmls

[Marco Basile 47]

Nomura isn't very good at understanding things and explaining it back. It's like playing phone. He's not a tecnology person he's an artist. They reversed the retail disc. They programmed everything from scratch and used higher quality models from their previous games. Though some graphical effect were actual generate by the PS2 and not textures. Stuff like this:

 

Nothing more nothing less.

But I still can't understand why the graphic in the trailer looked a loooot better than the real game version.

[peronmls 45]

But I still can't understand why the graphic in the trailer looked a loooot better than the real game version.

Well dev PS3's have the option to enhance graphics (res, AA, AF, etc) for dev purposes. Maybe they were expecting to release the game with high graphics but ran into issues. anyway, images like those are usually "bullshots" every dev does it. It's nothing to get upset about like everyone is doing. It happends everytime a dev shows a new game.

[DxBEATLESxD 12]

Im pretty sure he meant they had to just get it from a actual game disk and rip the game from there but im pretty sure they had somethings from the original programming that wasn't in the released game that they wanted to add now.

[Marco Basile 47]

Well dev PS3's have the option to enhance graphics (res, AA, AF, etc) for dev purposes. Maybe they were expecting to release the game with high graphics but ran into issues. anyway, images like those are usually "bullshots" every dev does it. It's nothing to get upset about like everyone is doing. It happends everytime a dev shows a new game.

Yeah, you're right. But I would have liked it a lot if they would have corrected those "weird faces" (for example, when the face of a character seems to be staring into space.)

Edited July 30, 2014 by Marco Basile

[VeNate13 144]

I think it's sorta funny they had to use a copy of their own game to remake it!

[FutureKeybearer 36]

They probably had some of the assets from the ps2 version. That and also an actual copy of the ps2 version to go off of

[peronmls 45]

Yeah, you're right. But I would have liked it a lot if they would have corrected those "weird faces" (for example, when the face of a character seems to be staring into space.)

It's an early ps2 game what do you expect.It's a remaster not remake what do you expect.

I think it's sorta funny they had to use a copy of their own game to remake it!

First of all hd remasters are not remakes they are REMASTERS. Second people use the original all the time. Blue point studios (the best 3rd party porters ever) do it. Its to insure theyhave everything there instead of relying on possible missing or partial missing source.Third please refer remaster as REMASTERS and not remakes. Remake is like pokemon red to pokemon fire red. Edited August 2, 2014 by peronmls

[VeNate13 144]

First of all hd remasters are not remakes they are REMASTERS. Second people use the original all the time. Blue point studios (the best 3rd party porters ever) do it. Its to insure theyhave everything there instead of relying on possible missing or partial missing source.Third please refer remaster as REMASTERS and not remakes. Remake is like pokemon red to pokemon fire red.

They still practically had to remake KH1 from scratch.

[peronmls 45]

They still practically had to remake KH1 from scratch.

Uuuhh. Noooo. They reverse engineered the disc and used what little source they had.

[VeNate13 144]

Uuuhh. Noooo. They reverse engineered the disc and used what little source they had.

I'd call that from scratch.

[peronmls 45]

I'd call that from scratch.

So you call already made graphics, music, SFX, models, images scratch? Yeah I'm sure. ALREADY MADE = from scratch.

[VeNate13 144]

So you call already made graphics, music, SFX, models, images scratch? Yeah I'm sure. ALREADY MADE = from scratch.

We'll they did have to rid it off their own disk!

[peronmls 45]

We'll they did have to rid it off their own disk!

That's still not from scratch dude. It's like me taking yokos music from her disk and adding more bass and treble to it and saying I did this from scratch.

[VeNate13 144]

That's still not from scratch dude. It's like me taking yokos music from her disk and adding more bass and treble to it and saying I did this from scratch.

Well I guess that's true. But it's still almost from scratch.

[peronmls 45]

Well I guess that's true. But it's still almost from scratch.

*facepalm* no. No remaster on gods green earth has been made from scratch.

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

Oh god, can we not argue about this!? Please? You can not call a Remaster: "Built from Scratch" Otherwise it would be a REMAKE.

 

Kingdom Hearts: HD 1.5 ReMIX is not a Remake, it's a HD Remaster! Jesus. *Facepalm*

[peronmls 45]

Oh god, can we not argue about this!? Please? You can not call a Remaster: "Built from Scratch" Otherwise it would be a REMAKE.

 

Kingdom Hearts: HD 1.5 ReMIX is not a Remake, it's a HD Remaster! Jesus. *Facepalm*

Nothing to argue about. Just a little missunderstanding.

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

Nothing to argue about. Just a little missunderstanding.

Okay. It's cool. It just really bugs me when people call 1.5 a remake. Sorry.

[peronmls 45]

Okay. It's cool. It just really bugs me when people call 1.5 a remake. Sorry.

Yeah me too. Any remaster for that matter a remake.

[Totaltarian67 7]

Hey it may not have been made from scratch but that's a lot of work