The reason why Vanitas will return.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

My theory is simple. Vanitas is technically a human being, and since their is no concept of death in KH, he will return. Let me start with this: Everybody who says "Vanitas is the darkness extracted from Ven's heart" may believe I'm wrong, but I'm not. Vanitas isn't just the darkness extracted from Ven's heart, he has a heart created from the darkness from Ven's heart. Before any of you call B.S., wait a minute and think about the required things needed for the X-Blade. A heart of light and a heart of darkness. I emphasize heart.

 

X-Blade is born when two hearts of equal strength, one of pure light and one of pure darkness, intersect.

. Everybody who has a heart is considered a human, and Vanitas has a heart. Now where he might be or when he will be revived is a question that can't be answered right now.

 

Discuss.

[khven 0]

i still dont see why he should return, though imagine him meeting sora in the future somehow if he did lol

[Reversal 53]

Vanitas is pretty much a being of darkness. His heart, his body, his very self was created from pure darkness. He corresponds with Ven being of pure light, yet at the end of Ven's scenario, Vanitas was completely destroyed, leaving Ven comatose and forcing him to merge hearts with Sora.

 

However, look at it this way. Shortly before Terra fought Eraqus, he sent Ven to Destiny Islands to keep him safe. Yet strangely, Vanitas was already there. Of course, this leaves the possibility that Vanitas had come into contact with one of the two would-be wielders on DI, Sora and Riku. Perhaps, he left remnants of himself within one of the two, as seeds for MX's plan.

 

While he is gone, that's not to say he won't return. And since fanservice also plays a part, no doubt Nomura knows of Vanitas' fanbase and brings him back at least for a cameo to satisfy them.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

I actually think he left a part of himself in Riku, just because of the fact that Riku dons his suit in KH1. Plus plot-wise, it would technically make sense for Ven to be a part of Sora and Vanitas apart of Riku (at least in KH1) because they were opposites. Sora represented Light, and Riku, Darkness, the same concept with Ven and Vanitas. Just to add another little theory, the Vanitas Sentiment could be the "Nobody" of Vanitas, since technically he lost his heart inside the battle. But I don't have enough facts to back that one up, so just think about that one.

[heartless101 83]

I think he will return again good theory once again SoraKing

[khven 0]

I actually think he left a part of himself in Riku, just because of the fact that Riku dons his suit in KH1. Plus plot-wise, it would technically make sense for Ven to be a part of Sora and Vanitas apart of Riku (at least in KH1) because they were opposites. Sora represented Light, and Riku, Darkness, the same concept with Ven and Vanitas. Just to add another little theory, the Vanitas Sentiment could be the "Nobody" of Vanitas, since technically he lost his heart inside the battle. But I don't have enough facts to back that one up, so just think about that one.

 

it all makes sense except for the vanitas sentiment being his nobody, first point, it sort of says what it is in it's name, vanitas 'sentiment'

 

second point, it was an optional boss and optional bosses never really have to do with a story plot

ex: sephiroth, ice titan

 

though the problem there is lingering sentiment from final mix, but then again, was a final mix, not an original game and if there was ever a bbs final mix, then the optional boss might be relevant to the plot

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

Vanitas's Sentiment appears as the secret boss found in the Keyblade Graveyard in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep.

There is a big difference between secret bosses and optional bosses. Optional bosses are just added into the game for a challenge. While secret bosses are added for the same purpose, all secret bosses have been canon. I'm 100% sure that the Vanitas Sentiment has something to do with the upcoming plot. It may be connected to our English version secret boss.

[Tails 6,692]

Well, ven did defeat vanitas in their station of waking. So i don't see why square-enix would need to bring vanitas back unless it's necessary.

 

In other words, bringing vanitas back would pretty much be pointless.

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

From what we know now, it would be pointless. But they may need to bring him back to cover more plot elements. I'll actually give you one for example. Riku's suit. It's the exact same as Vanitas' suit, and we don't know why. He could have a connection with Riku. Another reason for them to bring him back is the actual rules of the game itself. They have to follow the own logic they created. Nomura specifically stated that there is no death in Kingdom Hearts, and not bringing Vanitas back is technically killing him.

[Kishira 2,854]

Something tells me Vanitas isn't gone for good, there's no way Ven can live on without his darkness -lol, prince of light-. And it might be like you said, it could tie in why Riku's dark form and Vanitas are similar in ways. -plus,IjustwantVanitasback- xDD

[Stardustblade358 806]

Well,as far as I know,Vanitas' and Ven's hearts are one.And when Vanitas dissapeared,Ven's heart was incomplete and he was put into a sleep.So if they're thinking of bringing Ven back to the story line,they'll have to bring Vantitas back too,don't you think?

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

Vanitas' heart is basically a big part of Ven's heart, but yeah, eventually they will have to bring him back.

[NumberXIII.Roxas 64]

Well,as far as I know,Vanitas' and Ven's hearts are one.And when Vanitas dissapeared,Ven's heart was incomplete and he was put into a sleep.So if they're thinking of bringing Ven back to the story line,they'll have to bring Vantitas back too,don't you think?

 

I agree with this. Having destroyed the darkness from his heart, Ven fell comatose. So it's only right to assume that in order to wake up, he will need to have that darkness return and fix his heart.

[Reversal 53]

I actually think he left a part of himself in Riku, just because of the fact that Riku dons his suit in KH1. Plus plot-wise, it would technically make sense for Ven to be a part of Sora and Vanitas apart of Riku (at least in KH1) because they were opposites. Sora represented Light, and Riku, Darkness, the same concept with Ven and Vanitas. Just to add another little theory, the Vanitas Sentiment could be the "Nobody" of Vanitas, since technically he lost his heart inside the battle. But I don't have enough facts to back that one up, so just think about that one.

 

Plotwise, it would also make sense for Vanitas to be in Sora. He would be able to leave remnants of himself much easier since they already share a connection through Ven. Plus, the dark suits were given to them under different circumstances: Vanitas being born with it, and Riku being given it by Maleficent.

 

Something I neglected to mention previously: technically, Vanitas is just half a heart. The case is similar to that of Ansem SoD, the only Heartless to take a human form. Vanitas' heart of pure darkness was so strong, it was able to create a shell for him. It wasn't just his heart that was destroyed in the battle with Ven, it was his entire being.

[Keyblader 325]

Yet strangely, Vanitas was already there. Of course, this leaves the possibility that Vanitas had come into contact with one of the two would-be wielders on DI, Sora and Riku. Perhaps, he left remnants of himself within one of the two, as seeds for MX's plan.

 

if that is true then that explains riku's dark armor/outfit/garment(whatever)

[Reversal 53]

if that is true then that explains riku's dark armor/outfit/garment(whatever)

 

I find that the suit really doesn't have much to do with it since the two were given it under different circumstances, mentioned in my previous post, but nevertheless, the possibility exists ^^

[VentusX 20]

I hope he does return, he looks awesome(better than sora *hint,hint*) PLUS I LIKE HIS KEYBLADE

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

Well, Anti-Sora and Shadow Sora take on human forms, but I know the point you are trying to make. I have a whole theory about Ansem and why he looks so human, but I need more facts to back it up, so I won't post it right away. Anyways, I also notice that the Vanitas case is the same as the Eraqus case (when I say case, I mean their "deaths") in a sense that they are the only two people with hearts that actually have been "killed". Eraqus' heart lies within Terra, but we just have to guess where Vanitas' heart is.

[Reversal 53]

Well, Anti-Sora and Shadow Sora take on human forms, but I know the point you are trying to make. I have a whole theory about Ansem and why he looks so human, but I need more facts to back it up, so I won't post it right away. Anyways, I also notice that the Vanitas case is the same as the Eraqus case (when I say case, I mean their "deaths") in a sense that they are the only two people with hearts that actually have been "killed". Eraqus' heart lies within Terra, but we just have to guess where Vanitas' heart is.

 

Eh, they're more like humans in the form of Heartless, but that's not important.

 

I actually find his case to be more similar to that of Repliku's. Although his heart was fake, he was the only person to truly cease to exist. Vanitas comes as a close second, since it's possible that he'll return although his entire being was destroyed, and Eraqus's heart lives on in Apprentice Xehanort.

 

And then I imagined Vanitas's heart floating around in the Realm of Darkness plotting to kill us all o.O

[Space Cowboy 1,392]

That's exactly what I think too

 

Vanitas' heart is up to something sinister. I can bet that much.

[got it memorized 3]

i actually think Vanitas may not be needed to bring Ven back. we all know that Ven gave the remaining pure light part of his heart to Sora after defeating Vanitas. but as far as we know of, Sora doesn't have a heart of pure light. so in a future KH game, when Sora finds a way to get Ven's heart back to him, Sora may transfer some of the darkness from his own heart with Ven's heart, which would make Ven's heart complete, and officially bring him back.

[Reversal 53]

i actually think Vanitas may not be needed to bring Ven back. we all know that Ven gave the remaining pure light part of his heart to Sora after defeating Vanitas. but as far as we know of, Sora doesn't have a heart of pure light. so in a future KH game, when Sora finds a way to get Ven's heart back to him, Sora may transfer some of the darkness from his own heart with Ven's heart, which would make Ven's heart complete, and officially bring him back.

 

The thing is, Vanitas is the dark half of Ven's heart, and a heart holds a person's identity; it's what makes you "you", and no one else. For Ven to return as the person he once was, and not a completely different Ven, that dark half needs to be recovered. It depends whether or not Vanitas would return along with it, but it does open the floor to the possibility that he may return.

[Wolf on the Run 391]

no vanitas cant come back after ven bet him at the end of his story line vanitas became part of vens heart again and i don't think mx would able to bring vanitas back if ven had anything to say about it

[Queen Tery 4,591]

no vanitas cant come back after ven bet him at the end of his story line vanitas became part of vens heart again and i don't think mx would able to bring vanitas back if ven had anything to say about it

 

vanitas did NOT return to vens heart that is why ven fell in to a coma and why vanitas disappeared from the depiction of him and ven on the station of awakening. whether or not he is gone or coming back remains to be seen.

[Reversal 53]

no vanitas cant come back after ven bet him at the end of his story line vanitas became part of vens heart again and i don't think mx would able to bring vanitas back if ven had anything to say about it

 

Vanitas is gone, hence, the reason why Ven returned to the comatose state. Before, even though Vanitas had been extracted from him, the two still shared a connection with each other, so Ven only had to connect his heart to Sora's to recomplete. This time, Vanitas is really gone, and without the connection to his other half, he was forced to rely even more on Sora, and thus had to merge his heart with his.