MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted April 26, 2014 Wonderful logic, isn't it? 4 Kingdomhe, KHUndertaleFan25, Agucsoccer and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted April 26, 2014 This is Nomura logic: 4 WakelessDream, Kaweebo, Agucsoccer and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted April 26, 2014 EE EE OOH OOH AH NOT CLAYTON firetruckING STEALTH SNEAK GOD 2 Shulk and MythrilMagician reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catmaster0116 2,676 Posted April 26, 2014 This is Nomura logic: Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game? Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character... 4 Dio Brando, MythrilMagician, Shulk and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted April 26, 2014 mmmmmmmmmmm debatable sometimes earlier bosses aren't that hard for me...the only glaring example I think of regarding final bosses being easier than early bosses is Birth by Sleep....Aside from Terra-Xehanort(whom you fight twice) the Ventus-Vanitas fusion with Aqua and the battle with Vanitas as Ventus are the most predictable and the easiest final bosses I've ever fought in the series,both uses the exact same strategy as every Vanitas fight before this point in the game....and you fight Vanitas 5 times before his two final boss encounters Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game? Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character... Ventus in a nutshell I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Ventus and before anyone say anything. no,Ventus didn't came before Roxas design-wise,story-wise yeah but design-wise Roxas was made waaaaaaaaaaaay before Ventus 1 catmaster0116 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAMN 80 Posted April 26, 2014 Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game? Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character... Akira Toriyama:Hey! I resent that....Gohan looks nothing like Goku....nothing at alll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catmaster0116 2,676 Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) and before anyone say anything. no,Ventus didn't came before Roxas design-wise,story-wise yeah but design-wise Roxas was made waaaaaaaaaaaay before Ventus I so agree... Roxas ftw - that kid has got attitude and 2 Keyblades!! I'm sure many of us felt that epic surge the first time Roxas VS Axel in KH2 when he pulled out 2 Keyblades. Too bad it was short lived. I felt like Ventus was a bit of a crybaby Edited April 26, 2014 by catmaster0116 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted April 26, 2014 Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game? Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character... Yes. It's called FINAL FANTASY All the Bravest for iOS & Android. Nomura was the Creative Producer and came up with the original concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted April 26, 2014 Akira Toriyama:Hey! I resent that....Gohan looks nothing like Goku....nothing at alll You mean Goten who's pretty much a Goku clone,as Gohan barely looked like Goku the more he grew up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted April 26, 2014 This is Nomura logic: We can say that's his logic as well. Wonderful logic, isn't it? But really guys who had a harder time fighting Xaldin, then you did fighting Xemnas? I sure did -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 1,200 Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) I so agree... Roxas ftw - that kid has got attitude and 2 Keyblades!! I'm sure many of us felt that epic surge the first time Roxas VS Axel in KH2 when he pulled out 2 Keyblades. Too bad it was short lived. I felt like Ventus was a bit of a crybaby Ventus could get down pretty easily, but overall he seemed like a much happy person than Roxas. In fact, he was basically a happier version of Roxas, supporting your earlier post about "original characters". I love KH and I like a lot of characters but sometimes it's hard when these characters are goddamn clones of each other who act almost identical for "story reasons". Yes, we get Ventus looks like Roxas because Ventus became a part of Sora so when Sora made a nobody it had "influence" from Ventus, but seriously? There is almost nothing distinct in their designs that divvy them up for me, sans the Keyblade armor shoulder thing on Ven. I can get characters looking similar, but jeez, they shouldn't look exactly the same. Edited April 26, 2014 by Phantom R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geotrix 862 Posted April 26, 2014 Ventus could get down pretty easily, but overall he seemed like a much happy person than Roxas. In fact, he was basically a happier version of Roxas, supporting your earlier post about "original characters". I love KH and I like a lot of characters but sometimes it's hard when these characters are goddamn clones of each other who act almost identical for "story reasons". Yes, we get Ventus looks like Roxas because Ventus became a part of Sora so when Sora made a nobody it had "influence" from Ventus, but seriously? There is almost nothing distinct in their designs that divvy them up for me, sans the Keyblade armor shoulder thing on Ven. I can get characters looking similar, but jeez, they shouldn't look exactly the same I agree, in terms of design Ventus was pretty lazy because he was literally Roxas but there is a reason for that. In terms of character he is easily the best of the trio of BBS. Terra was a bit too much 'Anakin Skywalker' and his revenge story had been done to death before. Aqua was alright I just think her voice actress (Willa Holland) could of done a better job conveying emotion for her at times as Aqua did sound really really monotone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MythrilMagician 6,963 Posted April 26, 2014 If you guys just understand the basic gist of BBS you will understand why Ven and Roxas look exactly alike. Just watching the opening scenes should be enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted April 26, 2014 I feel like the final boss in KH games is alot more satisfying due to to having so many lives/phases. Being easier than others might play a role in this too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultima Spark 753 Posted April 26, 2014 Yes. It's called FINAL FANTASY All the Bravest for iOS & Android. Nomura was the Creative Producer and came up with the original concept. Was he drunk when he came up with it like he did for Coded? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted April 26, 2014 Was he drunk when he came up with it like he did for Coded? Probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyper-Rushe 17 Posted April 26, 2014 Ventus could get down pretty easily, but overall he seemed like a much happy person than Roxas. In fact, he was basically a happier version of Roxas, supporting your earlier post about "original characters". I love KH and I like a lot of characters but sometimes it's hard when these characters are goddamn clones of each other who act almost identical for "story reasons". Yes, we get Ventus looks like Roxas because Ventus became a part of Sora so when Sora made a nobody it had "influence" from Ventus, but seriously? There is almost nothing distinct in their designs that divvy them up for me, sans the Keyblade armor shoulder thing on Ven. I can get characters looking similar, but jeez, they shouldn't look exactly the same. I have a hard time differentiating the two because even their stoyline are nearly identical with one or two key diffrences. i'm starting to think that they may actually be the same person who just lost his memory twice. Roxas: boy has no memories joins evil group, makes lifelong friends something happens that breaks them up. Ventus: boy loses memories joins group of good guys makes lifelong friends something happens that breaks them up. 1 Sikota Urinakano reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) If you guys just understand the basic gist of BBS you will understand why Ven and Roxas look exactly alike. Just watching the opening scenes should be enough. ًIf it's the good ol "Roxas is Ventus"theory then no,cuz 1Roxas grew his own heart and 2VENTUS'S BODY IS IN CASTLE OBLIVION SO THEY CAN'T BE THE SAME DUDE With that in mind,what does making them look alike add to the plot?Nothing...nothing but a new haircut for Roxas and a bit of forshadowing if Xehanort knows beforehand that his method with Ven and Vanitas was false,then what's the point of the whole VentusVanitas plot? Also,Ventus's design is just laziness on Nomura's part,he could've gave him any.....ANY new original design Instead he copied Roxas's design from Twilight Town(Roxas came in 2004 in the ending of Chain of Memories btw),recolored a bit of it,give him a bigger and much fluffier pants and BAM new character Ventus is nothing but a plot device And no,I won't accept the "you need two hearts to wield two keyblades" explaination they gave to Ventus just so they can make him seem important Edited April 26, 2014 by Red Tribal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAMN 80 Posted April 30, 2014 You mean Goten who's pretty much a Goku clone,as Gohan barely looked like Goku the more he grew up Man...don't kid yourself...Gohan,Goten and Goku all look the same They all have the same face...that's all that matters Gohan's hair was always different from Goku's but his face was exactly like Goku's LOL I love AT's Art Style but he has "Same Face Complex" like most Manga Artists out there Bulma's Daughter also looks like Bulma herself...and Android 18 sorta reminds me of Bad Launch BTW Speaking of Launch...Akira Toriyama's reasoning on why she never made an appearance in after Dragon Ball is that he simply "forgot about her"...Screw you AT <.< DB>DBZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites