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The Logic of Tetsuya Nomura

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This is Nomura logic:

 

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Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game?

 

Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character...

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mmmmmmmmmmm debatable 

 

sometimes earlier bosses aren't that hard for me...the only glaring example I think of regarding final bosses being easier than early bosses is Birth by Sleep....Aside from Terra-Xehanort(whom you fight twice) the Ventus-Vanitas fusion with Aqua and the battle with Vanitas as Ventus are the most predictable and the easiest final bosses I've ever fought in the series,both uses the exact same strategy as every Vanitas fight before this point in the game....and you fight Vanitas 5 times before his two final boss encounters

Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game?

 

Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character...

Ventus in a nutshell 

 

I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Ventus

 

and before anyone say anything. no,Ventus didn't came before Roxas design-wise,story-wise yeah but design-wise Roxas was made waaaaaaaaaaaay before Ventus

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Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game?

 

Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character...

Akira Toriyama:Hey! I resent that....Gohan looks nothing like Goku....nothing at alll

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and before anyone say anything. no,Ventus didn't came before Roxas design-wise,story-wise yeah but design-wise Roxas was made waaaaaaaaaaaay before Ventus

 

I so agree...

 

Roxas ftw - that kid has got attitude and 2 Keyblades!! I'm sure many of us felt that epic surge the first time Roxas VS Axel in KH2 when he pulled out 2 Keyblades. Too bad it was short lived.

 

I felt like Ventus was a bit of a crybaby

Edited by catmaster0116

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Seriously??? Is this a screenshot from another game?

 

Nomura Logic to me: Create a bunch of characters with identical appearances....either do a color palatte swap, slightly change the character design or change the outfit and then call it an original character...

 

Yes. It's called FINAL FANTASY All the Bravest for iOS & Android. Nomura was the Creative Producer and came up with the original concept.

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Akira Toriyama:Hey! I resent that....Gohan looks nothing like Goku....nothing at alll

You mean Goten who's pretty much a Goku clone,as Gohan barely looked like Goku the more he grew up

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I so agree...

 

Roxas ftw - that kid has got attitude and 2 Keyblades!! I'm sure many of us felt that epic surge the first time Roxas VS Axel in KH2 when he pulled out 2 Keyblades. Too bad it was short lived.

 

I felt like Ventus was a bit of a crybaby

 

Ventus could get down pretty easily, but overall he seemed like a much happy person than Roxas. In fact, he was basically a happier version of Roxas, supporting your earlier post about "original characters".

 

I love KH and I like a lot of characters but sometimes it's hard when these characters are goddamn clones of each other who act almost identical for "story reasons". Yes, we get Ventus looks like Roxas because Ventus became a part of Sora so when Sora made a nobody it had "influence" from Ventus, but seriously? There is almost nothing distinct in their designs that divvy them up for me, sans the Keyblade armor shoulder thing on Ven. I can get characters looking similar, but jeez, they shouldn't look exactly the same.

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Ventus could get down pretty easily, but overall he seemed like a much happy person than Roxas. In fact, he was basically a happier version of Roxas, supporting your earlier post about "original characters".

 

I love KH and I like a lot of characters but sometimes it's hard when these characters are goddamn clones of each other who act almost identical for "story reasons". Yes, we get Ventus looks like Roxas because Ventus became a part of Sora so when Sora made a nobody it had "influence" from Ventus, but seriously? There is almost nothing distinct in their designs that divvy them up for me, sans the Keyblade armor shoulder thing on Ven. I can get characters looking similar, but jeez, they shouldn't look exactly the same

I agree, in terms of design Ventus was pretty lazy because he was literally Roxas but there is a reason for that. In terms of character he is easily the best of the trio of BBS. Terra was a bit too much 'Anakin Skywalker' and his revenge story had been done to death before. Aqua was alright I just think her voice actress (Willa Holland) could of done a better job conveying emotion for her at times as Aqua did sound really really monotone.

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Yes. It's called FINAL FANTASY All the Bravest for iOS & Android. Nomura was the Creative Producer and came up with the original concept.

 

Was he drunk when he came up with it like he did for Coded?

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Ventus could get down pretty easily, but overall he seemed like a much happy person than Roxas. In fact, he was basically a happier version of Roxas, supporting your earlier post about "original characters".

 

I love KH and I like a lot of characters but sometimes it's hard when these characters are goddamn clones of each other who act almost identical for "story reasons". Yes, we get Ventus looks like Roxas because Ventus became a part of Sora so when Sora made a nobody it had "influence" from Ventus, but seriously? There is almost nothing distinct in their designs that divvy them up for me, sans the Keyblade armor shoulder thing on Ven. I can get characters looking similar, but jeez, they shouldn't look exactly the same.

 

I have a hard time differentiating the two because even their stoyline are nearly identical with one or two key diffrences. i'm starting to think that they may actually be the same person who just lost his memory twice.

 

Roxas: boy has no memories joins evil group, makes lifelong friends something happens that breaks them up.

 

Ventus: boy loses memories joins group of good guys makes lifelong friends something happens that breaks them up.

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If you guys just understand the basic gist of BBS you will understand why Ven and Roxas look exactly alike. Just watching the opening scenes should be enough.

ًIf it's the good ol "Roxas is Ventus"theory then no,cuz 1Roxas grew his own heart and 2VENTUS'S BODY IS IN CASTLE OBLIVION SO THEY CAN'T BE THE SAME DUDE

 

With that in mind,what does making them look alike add to the plot?Nothing...nothing but a new haircut for Roxas and a bit of forshadowing

 

if Xehanort knows beforehand that his method with Ven and Vanitas was false,then what's the point of the whole VentusVanitas plot?

 

Also,Ventus's design is just laziness on Nomura's part,he could've gave him any.....ANY new original design 

 

Instead he copied Roxas's design from Twilight Town(Roxas came in 2004 in the ending of Chain of Memories btw),recolored a bit of it,give him a bigger and much fluffier pants and BAM new character

 

Ventus is nothing but a plot device

 

And no,I won't accept the "you need two hearts to wield two keyblades" explaination they gave to Ventus just so they can make him seem important

Edited by Red Tribal

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You mean Goten who's pretty much a Goku clone,as Gohan barely looked like Goku the more he grew up

Man...don't kid yourself...Gohan,Goten and Goku all look the same

They all have the same face...that's all that matters

Gohan's hair was always different from Goku's but his face was exactly like Goku's LOL

I love AT's Art Style but he has "Same Face Complex" like most Manga Artists out there

Bulma's Daughter also looks like Bulma herself...and Android 18 sorta reminds me of Bad Launch xD

 

BTW Speaking of Launch...Akira Toriyama's reasoning on why she never made an appearance in after Dragon Ball is that he simply "forgot about her"...Screw you AT <.<

DB>DBZ

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