Exiblade7 1,917 Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) I been watching youtube videos about kingdom hearts and I just seem to wonder if the one in BBS is the true Kingdom hearts. Edited March 22, 2014 by Shawn Shelby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchestrafanboy19 101 Posted March 22, 2014 That is a good question. Kingdom Hearts is indeed an object, a tangible thing, maybe even a place. However, that does beg the question, there are three Kingdom Hearts shown throughout the games. The one in the Keyblade Graveyard, the one in the abyss in the first game, and the moon in the World that Never Was, are any of them the REAL Kingdom Hearts? Perhaps every world has its own special connection to Kingdom Hearts. Maybe the various ones we see are all the different paths to the same destination. It may very well be that the worlds orbit around an epicenter of Kingdom Hearts. This is purely speculation, but maybe we haven't seen the real Kingdom Hearts yet. Maybe we've only seen the pathways to it. So, to answer your question, yes and no. Yes, they all are the real Kingdom Hearts, but no, I don't think they're the REAL Kingdom Hearts, if that makes any sense. 3 Exiblade7, Kevin_Keyblade and Nero Kunivas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted March 22, 2014 Well , that's a weird but nice question . I'd say that Kingdom Hearts might change over time . Or it might be connected to the worlds differently . I mean , in BBS it looked kinda like the one in KH II . Maybe when KH I was being made , Nomura didn't think of how the Kingdom Hearts should be shaped . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col.Random 3,683 Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Yes.Why do I have to explain? Why can't I just ignorantly toss in a baseless conclusion like how almost everyone else on the internet does? Edited March 22, 2014 by Col.Random Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exiblade7 1,917 Posted March 22, 2014 Well , that's a weird but nice question . I'd say that Kingdom Hearts might change over time . Or it might be connected to the worlds differently . I mean , in BBS it looked kinda like the one in KH II . Maybe when KH I was being made , Nomura didn't think of how the Kingdom Hearts should be shaped . That is a good question. Kingdom Hearts is indeed an object, a tangible thing, maybe even a place. However, that does beg the question, there are three Kingdom Hearts shown throughout the games. The one in the Keyblade Graveyard, the one in the abyss in the first game, and the moon in the World that Never Was, are any of them the REAL Kingdom Hearts? Perhaps every world has its own special connection to Kingdom Hearts. Maybe the various ones we see are all the different paths to the same destination. It may very well be that the worlds orbit around an epicenter of Kingdom Hearts. This is purely speculation, but maybe we haven't seen the real Kingdom Hearts yet. Maybe we've only seen the pathways to it. So, to answer your question, yes and no. Yes, they all are the real Kingdom Hearts, but no, I don't think they're the REAL Kingdom Hearts, if that makes any sense. Remember you see kingdom hearts in DDD too in Riku's story in the world that never was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caxkj 481 Posted March 22, 2014 I believe it's been established the moon in TWTNW was an artificial Kingdom Hearts created by the Organization. So the narrows down the list. 1 Ajexmi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchestrafanboy19 101 Posted March 22, 2014 Remember you see kingdom hearts in DDD too in Riku's story in the world that never was. I believe it's been established the moon in TWTNW was an artificial Kingdom Hearts created by the Organization. So the narrows down the list. Like I said, maybe the moon is a pathway that The World that Never Was has found and can use to get to Kingdom Hearts. Or maybe Org. XIII made it themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exiblade7 1,917 Posted March 22, 2014 Like I said, maybe the moon is a pathway that The World that Never Was has found and can use to get to Kingdom Hearts. Or maybe Org. XIII made it themselves. Is the kingdom hearts in DDD have a different color than the one in KH2? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shard the Gentleman 2,891 Posted March 22, 2014 Personally, I think all the visual "Kingdom Hearts" that we've seen are just pathways to the real Kingdom Hearts. The Door to Darkness leads to the Realm of Darkness, which I believe has Kingdom Hearts in it. Even in the darkness, a light shines within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exiblade7 1,917 Posted March 22, 2014 Personally, I think all the visual "Kingdom Hearts" that we've seen are just pathways to the real Kingdom Hearts. The Door to Darkness leads to the Realm of Darkness, which I believe has Kingdom Hearts in it. Even in the darkness, a light shines within. The kingdom hearts in KH1 might be the same one in BBS because in BBS kingdom hearts got swallowed by the darkness never to be seen again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted March 22, 2014 no none of us have seen the real kingdom hearts. its in the Ultimas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted March 22, 2014 The kingdom hearts in KH1 might be the same one in BBS because in BBS kingdom hearts got swallowed by the darkness never to be seen again. That happened before BBS during the Keyblade war, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) The Kingdom Hearts in both KH1 and KH2 were artificially made. The one in BBS in kinda a mystery since DDD retcons it's meaning/existence since Xehanort himself states that Kingdom Hearts hasn't been seen again since the keyblade war. So i guess that means that one isn't real or was incomplete as well just like the X-blade was incomplete and therefore not genuine . Also just to add the one in DDD was in a dream . Edited March 22, 2014 by Flaming Lea 5 Robbie the Wise, Demyx., Ajexmi and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caity 3,946 Posted March 22, 2014 I always saw it as the other ones we see are artificial and the one in BBS is semi-made/incomplete version Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Keeper 687 Posted March 22, 2014 No it is not, Xehanort mentioned that the real Kingdom Hearts was destroyed long time ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exiblade7 1,917 Posted March 22, 2014 No it is not, Xehanort mentioned that the real Kingdom Hearts was destroyed long time ago. I thought the real one was the one that was seen in BBS. I guess I wasn't paying attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted March 22, 2014 I thought the real one was the one that was seen in BBS. I guess I wasn't paying attention. The best way to describe it is it's 'lost" never to be seen again since the keyblade war like it's stated in DDD. At the time BBS was made I think it prolly was intended to be real but DDD retconned that just like it retconned the conditions in which the X-blade was made . However, technically the X-blade was always incomplete even in BBS since Ven and Vanitas didn't fully merge and made that X-blade 'broken' or "incomplete" regardless. So I guess either way it was at least incomplete no matter what. 2 Robbie the Wise and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Official Bowtie Artist 90 Posted March 22, 2014 Well, according to Nomura in Director's Secret Report 13 (XIII, whatever), it is implied that the differing colors of Kingdom Hearts is due to the nature of its assemblage. The Kingdom Hearts made by Organization XIII was assembled from the "hearts of men," meaning the hearts of people, turned into Heartless, were compiled into it. In Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, the χ-blade unlocked Kingdom Hearts from "the hearts of worlds," meaning the hearts of entire worlds were assembled for its creation. By this, I can assume that Nomura uses the term "assembled" literally. So, being that both were actually artificially made, and assuming that during Aqua's travels in the world of Darkness in FM's secret episode thingie (by this I assume that either BBS's Kingdom Hearts or another version of it was sealed in the darkness, as is shown in KH1), I conclude that we haven't actually seen THE Kingdom Hearts. I have a feeling, to make things firework-spectacular, that KH3 will show the real true Kingdom Hearts. Just a feeling, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Rose 8,591 Posted March 22, 2014 I've been playing the Kingdom Hearts series for over a decade- I still have no idea what Kingdom Hearts actually is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Shimo 202 Posted March 22, 2014 Well, according to Nomura in Director's Secret Report 13 (XIII, whatever), it is implied that the differing colors of Kingdom Hearts is due to the nature of its assemblage. The Kingdom Hearts made by Organization XIII was assembled from the "hearts of men," meaning the hearts of people, turned into Heartless, were compiled into it. In Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, the χ-blade unlocked Kingdom Hearts from "the hearts of worlds," meaning the hearts of entire worlds were assembled for its creation. By this, I can assume that Nomura uses the term "assembled" literally. So, being that both were actually artificially made, and assuming that during Aqua's travels in the world of Darkness in FM's secret episode thingie (by this I assume that either BBS's Kingdom Hearts or another version of it was sealed in the darkness, as is shown in KH1), I conclude that we haven't actually seen THE Kingdom Hearts. I have a feeling, to make things firework-spectacular, that KH3 will show the real true Kingdom Hearts. Just a feeling, though. Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted March 22, 2014 Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world You are correct . The one in BBS was because the X-blade was incompletely forged 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchestrafanboy19 101 Posted March 22, 2014 The Kingdom Hearts in both KH1 and KH2 were artificially made. The one in BBS in kinda a mystery since DDD retcons it's meaning/existence since Xehanort himself states that Kingdom Hearts hasn't been seen again since the keyblade war. So i guess that means that one isn't real or was incomplete as well just like the X-blade was incomplete and therefore not genuine . Also just to add the one in DDD was in a dream . Seriously, you are awesome. If I ever have any questions, you're the gal. 3 Demyx., Nero Kunivas and HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted March 22, 2014 Seriously, you are awesome. If I ever have any questions, you're the gal. awwwww thanks 2 Orchestrafanboy19 and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajexmi 446 Posted March 22, 2014 I've been playing the Kingdom Hearts series for over a decade- I still have no idea what Kingdom Hearts actually is Wouldn't the Kingdom Hearts made from worlds be the one from KH 1? The whole plot was to search for the keyhole leading into the heart of each world I'm pretty sure it's been referred to as 'the heart of ALL worlds - Kingdom Hearts' I realise this isn't even useful information...... carry on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted March 23, 2014 Well, the one in BBS was technically the real one but also wasn't because the X-Blade was incompletely and incorrectly forged as it was made only from one Light and one Darkness so I imagine that the one in KH3 will not only have the complete and more powerful X-Blade but it will also have the True Kingdom Hearts and I myself REALLY hope that it's either a world or is at least explored in another way. Seriously, you are awesome. If I ever have any questions, you're the gal. I couldn't agree more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
