Official KH3 on WiiU Rant and Speculation Thread

[Guest]

Fool. A rant on them, but you won't reply to them.  Close to FF XV? Please. I could see the polygons. Does the Wii U really need Kingdom Hearts 3 anyway?

Sometimes people don't want to deal with people saying that something is impossible when it clearly is.

 

Okay, so you can see the poly's. The graphics aren't as great, but this is like the debate about the 1080 P VS 720 P argument made by the people who like that one game series that i don't care to remember at this time. Just lover the render for Wii U and it's basically going to be fine, so long as people remember that the graphics of the Wii U are not at the same level as the PS4.

 

Some gamer's prefer Nintendo(I myself prefer Nintendo consoles) and since it likely won't be on PC like I would use, I would rather it be on a system I want rather than the other systems I don't really want(Though I'm warming up to the PS4, the money is not in my wallet.

[Xiro 3,468]

Fool. A rant on them, but you won't reply to them.  Close to FF XV? Please. I could see the polygons. Does the Wii U really need Kingdom Hearts 3 anyway?

This. If you're so angry about it, make a petition or contact Squeenix or something. And refusing to reply shows that you're not willing to look at the other side of the argument.

And MonolithSoft's upcoming game looks very good - no, it's beautiful. But it is by no means "almost identical" to FFXV.

And let's say KH3 was on the Wii U. What would Square have to change? It's like if DDD was in 2.5 on the PS3. You'd have to make changes, and while some may think that the touch screen stuff aren't too important, but it wouldn't be the same now would it? For KH3, you'd have two different versions of the game, and although the differences may only be slight ones, they are differences nonetheless, and everyone playing the game should have the overall same experience.

Either that or Square just doesn't give a shit. I mean, they've never done multi-platform until now.

[RoxSox 3,593]

And I will say the same thing I always say when you bring up this goddamn topic again and fucking again.

 

If Square Enix had the desire to put Kingdom Hearts III on the Wii U, then Kingdom Hearts III would be on the Wii U. Whether they don't want to put it on the system because of hardware, sales, fanbase, or whatever, their reasons do not matter. What matters is this, KHIII isn't on the Wii U. If it were going to be on the Wii U, it would be. But since it isn't, that's your cue to shut the fuck up about it.

 

 

This is a rant on the people who think it's downright impossible for the Wii U to have the game. I will not respond to any of you, because I feel like a broken record when that happens.

 

 

That's because you are, and it has nothing to do with your responses to us.

[Sora96 17,256]

Tetsuya Nomura said it couldn't be. Nomura's game.

[Aqua7KH 5,395]

I think KH3 should be on the WII-U, and it could definitly be played on the WII-U, but the thing is, it's not just the hardware. It's also the controls. XBox One and PS4 have very similar controls. If KH3 were to be on the Wii-U, the game play would be different. Because of this, it wouldn't make much sense.

[Shulk 8,623]

Alright, just because so many people are making fun of us not wanting to respond to the nay-sayers: It's not because we're avoiding debate. It's because we're sick of the other side providing no actual evidence aside from "PS4 has better graphics". Square Enix might be lazy, but they can easily change a game around to make it work. Look at the remake of Final Fantasy IV on DS, they completely redid the game.

[MasterRoxas13 340]

I don't know why everybody keeps making these excuses about the controls

 

did you guys every hear about the Wii U pro controller?

 

can everybody please stop making excuses for Square- Enix ( they brought me Kingdom Hearts and I am grateful. But I am just calling it like I see it). This is the first time they go muiti- platform they should have known where their real fans are at. Their fans are on Sony and Nintendo platforms not on Microsoft platforms

 

And for the ones who can't think of anything but "get over it" knows SE messed up but don't want to admit it because they love Square -enix to much and feels like they can't do no wrong.

 

look I am one of the only fans who are buying KH on the Xbox one, So I know what I am talking about when I say there is almost ZERO I repeat ZERO interest of KH on Xbox one. All their fanbase  consist of is Action-adventure, Shooter, and Sports fans and that is it. it is barely going to sell on the Xbox one because most of their fans stop keeping track of the story around KH2.

Edited December 7, 2013 by MasterRoxas13

[Reyn 1,755]

And I will say the same thing I always say when you bring up this goddamn topic again and fucking again.

 

If Square Enix had the desire to put Kingdom Hearts III on the Wii U, then Kingdom Hearts III would be on the Wii U. Whether they don't want to put it on the system because of hardware, sales, fanbase, or whatever, their reasons do not matter. What matters is this, KHIII isn't on the Wii U. If it were going to be on the Wii U, it would be. But since it isn't, that's your cue to shut the fuck up about it.

 

 

 

 

That's because you are, and it has nothing to do with your responses to us.

Dude, it's their opinion, leave it alone. If they want to believe an opinion, even if some people think its wrong, that's there choice, let them deal with it.

[Columned-Munny 274]

This is a rant on the people who think it's downright impossible for the Wii U to have the game. I will not respond to any of you, because I feel like a broken record when that happens.

 

The main thing people are saying about the game is that the hardware is not good enough. Well, maybe its not as powerful as the PS4 or Xbox One are, but I guarantee you, the game could run. If Square Enix was really that concerned about hardware, They would have put ddd on the vita. If they were that concerned about hardware, Kingdom Hearts II would have been on the Xbox.

The only reason, THE ONLY REASON, Square Enix hasn't said anything about Kingdom Hearts III on the Wii U is because of sales. That's all it is. They knew more people would initially buy a PS4 or Xbox One, and The Wii U wasn't doing so hot then. Now that the Wii U has Smash Bros and Mario Kart coming out, and with the help of titles such as Super Mario 3d World, Bayonetta 2, And many more, Once the Wii U picks up in sales in 2014, Nomura will at least bring up the topic.

 

If you honest to god think that the main reason is because of weak hardware, look at this.

This game looks almost identical to Final Fantasy XV, one of the more "next-gen" games we've seen thus far. The Wii U isn't quite as powerful as the other next gen consoles, but It's close. It's a smilar gap to the Dreamcast and PS2. Even Developer Ubisoft has said That their games on the Wii U will look a lot better than the current gen. Nomura said all DirectX 11 compatible devices will be considered for Kingdom Hearts III. The Wii U has a Indie game titled "Candle" that's going to release that runs DirectX 11.

I guess that's all I have to say.

 

Is it downright impossible? Probably not, but the game isn't being designed for the Wii U from the ground up, it's being designed for X1 and PS4. To get it running on the Wii U would probably require reworking the game so it uses less RAM, likely less HDD space, and so that it fits onto a smaller disc size. Yes, multiple disc games are a thing, but it's an extra expense that Square would have to take into consideration. It's not about how the game looks, it's about how it uses the hardware during the gameplay.

 

You're correct in that this is about install bases, and right now the Wii U's is doing terribly for a system that had a year head start on its competition. Even if/when the system sales pick up for the titles you mentioned, the PS4 and X1 titles are going to pick up as well. What happens when Titanfall comes out? Or Destiny? Or the next Uncharted? And who is going to buy a Wii U for their multiplatform games, not when developers start getting their proper next-gen titles out on the other systems. 

 

The Wii U is an excellent system for Nintendo games, but it lacks the spark of simplicity the Wii had, and it doesn't have parity with its competition in terms of specs. People are noticing differences in performance between X1 and PS4 games due to hardware differences. Imagine making a game for a system with 8gb of GDDR5 RAM, then being asked to port that to a system with 2gb of GDDR3. I'm not trying to bash the system in any way, but the hardware differences are worth considering alongside the audience sizes.

[Xiro 3,468]

Alright, just because so many people are making fun of us not wanting to respond to the nay-sayers: It's not because we're avoiding debate. It's because we're sick of the other side providing no actual evidence aside from "PS4 has better graphics". Square Enix might be lazy, but they can easily change a game around to make it work. Look at the remake of Final Fantasy IV on DS, they completely redid the game.

(Note: Nothing personal m8) We aren't making fun of you. And y'all are avoiding debate. And if you're sick of nay-sayers... nay-saying, think of how they're feeling (Exhibit A: RoxSox's post)

Also, concerning your example: That was a remake. Haven;t played it, but my guess is that they changed it in order to make improvements. This would be the same game. I guess it'd be alright if they slapped a re: in the title, but idk : /

 

However, I will admit that I completely forgot the Pro Controller. That would actually work as an alternate control scheme, like with Xenoblade and Brawl.

 

On this issue, I'm just gonna vote, "I don't know if they could or would do it, because the future lies beyond my sight."

[Shulk 8,623]

(Note: Nothing personal m8) We aren't making fun of you. And y'all are avoiding debate. And if you're sick of nay-sayers... nay-saying, think of how they're feeling (Exhibit A: RoxSox's post)

Also, concerning your example: That was a remake. Haven;t played it, but my guess is that they changed it in order to make improvements. This would be the same game. I guess it'd be alright if they slapped a re: in the title, but idk : /

 

However, I will admit that I completely forgot the Pro Controller. That would actually work as an alternate control scheme, like with Xenoblade and Brawl.

 

On this issue, I'm just gonna vote, "I don't know if they could or would do it, because the future lies beyond my sight."

RoxSox was being overly harsh with his reply in all honesty, he said some really offensive stuff. Kid and I aren't cussing people out here, we're just stating our opinion. And we're avoiding debate because we're sick of the same exact response. In all honesty it feels like their side is just a bunch of Sony fanboys wanting to keep KH exclusive to their systems. I don't know if I speak for everyone who wants KHIII on Wii U, but it feels like the PS4/XBone people are shoving it down my throat that I can't see the sequel to my favorite game on my favorite next-gen console. Also, FFIVDS actually completely changed the engine, so SE could change the engine again if it was proven to be profitable. And there are plenty Nintendo fans who are missing out on KHIII because they don't have the $400 to throw down on a console just to play one game.

 

Also, the Pro controller would work, but I think the gamepad could work too. It's got the analog sticks and the ABXY buttons could work for the triangle, square, X, and O buttons. There might not be two shoulder buttons for each side, but they could find some way to make that translate to the touch screen in they need to. I'm not saying I know that SE will put KHIII on Wii U, I'm just saying that I'd really like to see it so I don't have to waste $400 on a PS4 that I'd only use for KHIII and one or two playthrough of FFXV.

[Xiro 3,468]

RoxSox was being overly harsh with his reply in all honesty, he said some really offensive stuff. Kid and I aren't cussing people out here, we're just stating our opinion. And we're avoiding debate because we're sick of the same exact response. In all honesty it feels like their side is just a bunch of Sony fanboys wanting to keep KH exclusive to their systems. I don't know if I speak for everyone who wants KHIII on Wii U, but it feels like the PS4/XBone people are shoving it down my throat that I can't see the sequel to my favorite game on my favorite next-gen console. Also, FFIVDS actually completely changed the engine, so SE could change the engine again if it was proven to be profitable. And there are plenty Nintendo fans who are missing out on KHIII because they don't have the $400 to throw down on a console just to play one game.

 

Also, the Pro controller would work, but I think the gamepad could work too. It's got the analog sticks and the ABXY buttons could work for the triangle, square, X, and O buttons. There might not be two shoulder buttons for each side, but they could find some way to make that translate to the touch screen in they need to. I'm not saying I know that SE will put KHIII on Wii U, I'm just saying that I'd really like to see it so I don't have to waste $400 on a PS4 that I'd only use for KHIII and one or two playthrough of FFXV.

I was referring to RoxSox because I was trying to say that both sides are sick of the other. But I will agree that he was a bit harsh.

And as for the negative side being "a bunch of Sony fanboys", that's a very broad generalization. You don't know if everyone is a Sony fanboy, and most likely, not everyone is one (Exhibit B: me).

If the TouchPad's touchscreen were to be used, that might give Wii U players an advantage or something extra (gameplay-wise) compared to the PS4/XB1 players, which wouldn't be fair.

[Shulk 8,623]

I was referring to RoxSox because I was trying to say that both sides are sick of the other. But I will agree that he was a bit harsh.

And as for the negative side being "a bunch of Sony fanboys", that's a very broad generalization. You don't know if everyone is a Sony fanboy, and most likely, not everyone is one (Exhibit B: me).

If the TouchPad's touchscreen were to be used, that might give Wii U players an advantage or something extra (gameplay-wise) compared to the PS4/XB1 players, which wouldn't be fair.

I didn't mean to generalize them all, I just feel like that's where some of the other side of the argument comes from. The way I see it, those of us who want it on Wii U are just saying that we'd like that. We're not saying it will happen for sure. Those against us really have no reason to act so harshly towards us. A Wii U version of KHIII wouldn't hurt them at all. No Wii U KHIII hurts those of us who are going with Wii U this gen over PS4/XBone and don't have money.

[The Rocky Shoe 169]

Well here's a simple way to put it. It's possible, but won't happen.

[Xiro 3,468]

I didn't mean to generalize them all, I just feel like that's where some of the other side of the argument comes from. The way I see it, those of us who want it on Wii U are just saying that we'd like that. We're not saying it will happen for sure. Those against us really have no reason to act so harshly towards us. A Wii U version of KHIII wouldn't hurt them at all. No Wii U KHIII hurts those of us who are going with Wii U this gen over PS4/XBone and don't have money.

Yeah, 'twould be nice...

But Cucco's ranting isn't really helping matters to be honest. Kinda asking for trouble.

[Shulk 8,623]

Yeah, 'twould be nice...

But Cucco's ranting isn't really helping matters to be honest. Kinda asking for trouble.

Both myself and Kid know that the topic tends to lead to trouble, but we both feel really strongly about it. I mean, if we didn't, we wouldn't still bring it up while knowing that it tends to not get well received. I'm planning to get a PS4 if a Wii U version never happens, and I believe Kid's got backup plans too, but a Wii U version would make things a lot easier for us, and a lot of other fans.

[MasterRoxas13 340]

its like a giant elephant in the room every single time I think of Kingdom hearts 3 like why is it going to Xbox one again?

 

it should have been. Kingdom Hearts 3= PS4 + Wii U

instead it is like. Kingdom Hearts 3= PS4 + Xbox one

 

does 2+2= fish?

 

I want justice,

[The Rocky Shoe 169]

its like a giant elephant in the room every single time I think of Kingdom hearts 3 like why is it going to Xbox one again?

 

it should have been. Kingdom Hearts 3= PS4 + Wii U

instead it is like. Kingdom Hearts 3= PS4 + Xbox one

 

does 2+2= fish?

 

I want justice,

Well there're people that don't want a PS4 and has a Xbox One. And the Wii U doesn't have nowhere as many consoles sold as PS4 and XB1 will have.

[Columned-Munny 274]

its like a giant elephant in the room every single time I think of Kingdom hearts 3 like why is it going to Xbox one again?

 

it should have been. Kingdom Hearts 3= PS4 + Wii U

instead it is like. Kingdom Hearts 3= PS4 + Xbox one

 

does 2+2= fish?

 

I want justice,

 

I personally agree, but there's two reasons why it panned out the way it has (so far):

 

-Install bases. The greater the number of systems sold, the great the chance your game will sell. Wii U hasn't got as much growth potential as X1 does at the moment.

 

-The system spec similarities between PS4 and X1 have made it much, much easier for developer's to make games multiplatform for each of them.

[The Rocky Shoe 169]

Also I'm glad that it's coming to the XB1 so I can have people that will talk positive for XB1 and games exclusive to the XB1 for a change. Also Trophies suck compared to Achievements.

[projecttank 15]

Anta baka. You guys do know the only reason KH3 is even on the xbone is simply because how easy it is to port right? That's a cash grab. Porting to the Wii U would involve a lot of work making it compatible not only spec-wise but for the touchscreen as well, which let's face it would be too much work for so little reward. People who want it for the Wii U are a minority, albeit a vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless. I personally don't blame them for not wanting to do it, that's a lot of work and if they wanted to release it for all all at once it would delay the game even longer, which I think we can agree we've waited long enough, right? Who knows there's a slight, very slight possibility it might reach the Wii U 2 years after release since they've been doing that for a lot of PS3 games, but the Wii U is a dying system. I mean I don't think Nintendo consoles will ever die, especially their handhelds, but it seems their current home consoles will be at the bottom for a while, at least until smash comes up, but even then most people who are interested in smash have a Wii U already, and those who don't see it as baby's first fighting game. Personally I would prefer KH3 was a PS4 exclusive, but if the money from xdrones will support the future for Kingdom Hearts I approve, while it seems porting to the Wii U will cost more than it makes.

[xxClouDxxmoon 901]

That game trailer looks nice. Thanks for the share.

Also I'm glad that it's coming to the XB1 so I can have people that will talk positive for XB1 and games exclusive to the XB1 for a change. Also Trophies suck compared to Achievements.

1. Trophies are awesome.

2. Isn't it called "Gamerscore"?

[Elast0 147]

I believe that the game would run on WiiU but it won't happen so it's pointless to argue about it. Square Enix has already made their decision. It's as simple as that.

[NexusOmega 8]

personally, I just don't care for the Wii U. Oh and one more thing, is it true that each Wii U game costs 100$?

[Sora96 17,256]

personally, I just don't care for the Wii U. Oh and one more thing, is it true that each Wii U game costs 100$?

 

In Australia they do...