CROW 115 Posted February 19, 2014 Sooo, I kinda feel like I missed this scene entirely or just forgot about it somehow. You know the scene in 3D, when Sora arrives at TWTNW and Xigbar explains to him why he's there and not home. Now that I watched this cutscene randomly again, I don't really understand what he was talking about. May be the time, I'm pretty tired or I'm just stupid, but whatever it is, I need to know what he meant. Did Sora time travel with the robe guy's help or what? Xigbar implies something like that, as I understood it. Can anyone explain it to me? Someone who knows what he/she is talking about. Flaming Lea..? /o Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Xigbar explained that Ansem SoD who was on Destiny Islands the moment it fell to darkness. When Sora and Riku opened the portal to the Realm of Sleep Ansem acted as a portal for Young Xehanort to enter the RoS. From that point on Young Xehanort guided Sora away from the original path to one of The Organizations making. When Sora arrived in TWTNW he was in the real world at this point Xigbar proceeded to put Sora into a second sleep where they guided him to the chasm of dreams. Edited February 19, 2014 by devereauxr 5 Hamza Akram, King_Dragon2, luka and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 19, 2014 Sora and Riku were sent back in time to when DI fell so they could enter into the RoS. Hooded Ansem happened to be there of course and Riku saw this and became Sora's DE basically .. Ansem acted as a portal for YMX to enter and the norts used this to guide Sora to where they wanted him ( with the help of a recusant sigil as well) - TWTNW- where they would trap and trick him into eternal sleep so they could use his body as a vessel. They did try to use Riku first but realized he couldn't be used so they went down the list like the keyblade did and used Sora instead . 8 Neptune Vasilias, Orchestrafanboy19, King_Dragon2 and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Rose 8,591 Posted February 19, 2014 I dunno, but I avoided spoilers for that game like the plague so when he showed up it was so surprisingly awesome!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/19/2014 at 11:52 PM, Flaming Lea said: Sora and Riku were sent back in time to when DI fell so they could enter into the RoS. Hooded Ansem happened to be there of course and Riku saw this and became Sora's DE basically .. Ansem acted as a portal for YMX to enter and the norts used this to guide Sora to where they wanted him ( with the help of a recusant sigil as well) - TWTNW- where they would trap and trick him into eternal sleep so they could use his body as a vessel. They did try to use Riku first but realized he couldn't be used so they went down the list like the keyblade did and used Sora instead . New questions (I just realize how much I didn't even understand while playing Kh3D..) They were first send back in time by Yen Sid, right? So YX was there too and Ansem allowed him to enter Sora's dream world? What I also don't quite understand is, the Sora we play is in a dream, where all this happens and is going to be the vessel for Xehanort (which fails, but still,), but the real Sora is in the Mysterious Tower the whole time. How would this work? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) On 2/20/2014 at 12:01 AM, CROW said: New questions (I just realize how much I didn't even understand while playing Kh3D..) They were first send back in time by Yen Sid, right? So YX was there too and Ansem allowed him to enter Sora's dream world? What I also don't quite understand is, the Sora we play is in a dream, where all this happens and is going to be the vessel for Xehanort (which fails, but still,), but the real Sora is in the Mysterious Tower the whole time. How would this work? Yes and Yen Sid gave them the new clothes too that eventually got altered by Xehanort ( sora's not riku's) with the recusant sigil and separately by Riku's DE mark when he became Sora's DE. Sora entered the dream worlds and YMX followed and guided him to TWTNW. They were in dream worlds but they were still physically there-Sora in the dream worlds and Riku in Sora's dreams . Notice Lea picked up Sora's body and helped bring him back to the Mysterious Tower where he still was in a deep slumber . It was there Riku then had to dive into Sora's heart to save him from the deep darkness Edited February 20, 2014 by Flaming Lea 4 luka, Demyx., Robbie the Wise and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/20/2014 at 12:15 AM, Flaming Lea said: Yes and Yen Sid gave them the new clothes too that eventually got altered by Xehanort ( sora's not riku's) with the recusant sigil and separately by Riku's DE mark when he became Sora's DE. Sora entered the dream worlds and YMX followed and guided him to TWTNW. They were in dream worlds but they were still physically there-Sora in the dream worlds and Riku in Sora's dreams . Notice Lea picked up Sora's body and helped bring him back to the Mysterious Tower where he still was in a deep slumber . It was there Riku then had to dive into Sora's heart to save him from the deep darkness I see. So they were send back in time, physically altered (I mean they look younger too and all) by Yen Sid and when they returned to the mysterious tower they went back to the way they were before? If that's how it is, I guess I understand that part. Thanks a lot ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/20/2014 at 12:54 AM, CROW said: I see. So they were send back in time, physically altered (I mean they look younger too and all) by Yen Sid and when they returned to the mysterious tower they went back to the way they were before? If that's how it is, I guess I understand that part. Thanks a lot ^^ Pretty much . Yen Sid wanted them to relearn the ways of the keyblade from scratch since they never had proper training Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchestrafanboy19 101 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/19/2014 at 11:52 PM, Flaming Lea said: Sora and Riku were sent back in time to when DI fell so they could enter into the RoS. Hooded Ansem happened to be there of course and Riku saw this and became Sora's DE basically .. Ansem acted as a portal for YMX to enter and the norts used this to guide Sora to where they wanted him ( with the help of a recusant sigil as well) - TWTNW- where they would trap and trick him into eternal sleep so they could use his body as a vessel. They did try to use Riku first but realized he couldn't be used so they went down the list like the keyblade did and used Sora instead . Dang girl, no one gets it like you. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/20/2014 at 12:57 AM, Flaming Lea said: Pretty much . Yen Sid wanted them to relearn the ways of the keyblade from scratch since they never had proper training Yeah. I've read some other things up I didn't understand, before I bother you with mountains of questions lol I guess I'll leave it at that, though it frustrates me that I don't understand so many things.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/20/2014 at 1:18 AM, CROW said: Yeah. I've read some other things up I didn't understand, before I bother you with mountains of questions lol I guess I'll leave it at that, though it frustrates me that I don't understand so many things.. These two interviews help explain a lot in DDD: http://kh13.com/forum/topic/34334-spoilers-nomura-talks-kingdom-hearts-in-famitsu-talks-unannounced-title-kh3d-demo-in-na-kh3d-secrets/ http://kh13.com/forum/topic/34430-spoilers-kingdom-hearts-3d-ultimania-nomura-interviews-completely-translated/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Sideris 1,551 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) It's basically what Flaming Lea said . It was all planned by the young version of Master Xehanort who also met the weird SoD in the Destiny Islands . When I first saw the cutscene with Braig talking to Sora about all of this , my brain had "crushed" . But I "read up on some facts" and I understood what was going on .A really useful source is the Kingdom Hearts Wiki ,by the way. Edited February 20, 2014 by Nick Sideris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/20/2014 at 1:33 AM, Flaming Lea said: These two interviews help explain a lot in DDD: http://kh13.com/forum/topic/34334-spoilers-nomura-talks-kingdom-hearts-in-famitsu-talks-unannounced-title-kh3d-demo-in-na-kh3d-secrets/ http://kh13.com/forum/topic/34430-spoilers-kingdom-hearts-3d-ultimania-nomura-interviews-completely-translated/ Thank you, I'll definitely read into them later. You're really awesome man, I'm jealous of your knowledge /o But also grateful. On 2/20/2014 at 1:02 PM, Nick Sideris said: It's basically what Flaming Lea said . It was all planned by the young version of Master Xehanort who also met the weird SoD in the Destiny Islands . When I first saw the cutscene with Braig talking to Sora about all of this , my brain had "crushed" . But I "read up on some facts" and I understood what was going on .A really useful source is the Kingdom Hearts Wiki ,by the way. Yeah I know, I always go there when I want to know something. But sometimes, I understand better if someone explains it to me directly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 20, 2014 On 2/20/2014 at 4:05 PM, CROW said: Thank you, I'll definitely read into them later. You're really awesome man, I'm jealous of your knowledge /o But also grateful. Yeah I know, I always go there when I want to know something. But sometimes, I understand better if someone explains it to me directly. Thanks and you are welcome ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
