On the Subject of Keyblades

[Xiro 3,468]

So earlier today I was randomly thinking about Keyblades and how one 'stores' them when not in use. I always assumed it was just some alternate dimension storage thing or Hammerspace or whatever you would like to call it. Then I thought: What if Keyblade wielders stored their Keyblades in their hearts? That then somehow turned into this thought:

 

What if Keyblades were created from one's heart?

 

Dream Drop Distance explained that Keyblades were forged in the image of the χ-blade, but we don't know what methods were used to forge them. So creating Keyblades from one's heart is a possibility. After all, Keyblades only come into the possession of those with strong hearts.

 

But what about the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony that Terra and Aqua performed on Riku and Kairi? Well, perhaps that was just the planting of a seed, the facilitation of the growth of their hearts so they could become strong enough to have Keyblades of their own.

 

But Riku didn’t get his own Keyblade until… KHII. His heart wasn’t strong enough to him to have a Keyblade of his own, due to him always grappling with the darkness and his own self-doubt. It was strong enough, however, to use Sora’s Keyblade in KH and Roxas’s in Days.

 

Speaking of Roxas, what about him and Xion? They just used Sora and Ven’s Keyblades, right? But as DDD said, Nobodies can grow their own hearts. So it’s possible that Roxas had his own Keyblade the entire time he had a heart, and/or he used Sora’s/Ventus’s until his heart had grown enough. Same with Xion. She couldn’t even use a Keyblade until that one Darkside mission (I don’t remember specific days and things, so yeah), and then lost the ability to use the Keyblade until that other mission when she used Roxas’s Keyblade (and Roxas got stuck with a stick).

This could also be a reason as to why Xemnas doesn’t use a Keyblade: it would require him to grow a heart.

 

On the Topic of Dual Wielding:

 

Dual-wielding is either brought about by using someone else’s Keyblade or having a heart strong enough to produce two. Roxas could use Xion’s (or as many believe, Ventus’s) Keyblade along with his own at the end of Days and in KHII. It’s also possible that Roxas’s grown heart became strong enough for him to have two. As to which idea is correct, or if either of them are correct… well, that’s still up in the air.

 

One thing that has been discussed in the past is whether Sora would be able to dual-wield after Ven and Roxas and everyone else is saved and their hearts no longer reside within Sora. If we go with the “more hearts = more Keyblades” theory, then the answer would be no. But if that were, true, wouldn’t Sora be able to wield more Keyblades? He’s got Roxas, Ven, and Xion in him. Those plus his own would give him a grand total of four Keyblades. But he only uses either one or two. Why?

 

Because he doesn’t use the others’ Keyblades.

 

Think about it. Sora is the main character, and his heart has grown a lot over the course of the series. Who’s to say that his heart isn’t strong enough for him to have two Keyblades?

Also, look at Sora vs. Roxas in KHIIFM. Sora has his one Keyblade while Roxas still has two. If Roxas used Sora’s or Ven’s Keyblades, how could he use two if Sora was using his own? And if Roxas had Roxas’s heart and Sora didn’t have Roxas’s heart, how could Sora have used three Keyblades (albeit temporarily)? Of course, you could always throw in quantum mechanics and argue that Roxas’s heart is both in Sora and Roxas via superposition, but I digress. Since Sora was only using one, he could have borrowed Roxas’s two for a bit to knock out an HP bar or two, and Roxas either used his and Xion’s or had a heart strong enough to have two.

 

Last but not least is Lea. He, training under Merlin, tried to learn how to wield a Keyblade, but couldn’t do it when the time came and things went down at TWTNW. But at the end of the game, he summoned one (much to everyone’s surprise). So, one can theorize that Lea's heart wasn't strong enough, and that the battle at TWTNW was enough to strengthen Lea’s heart and produce a Keyblade.

Also, it is possible that the heart can create a unique Keychain for the wielder, such as Lea’s Keyblade and Riku’s Way to the Dawn.

 

I believe that is all I have to say on the matter. TL;DR: The heart is like a big and burly blacksmith that forges you a Keyblade. Some can get so big and burly that they’re strong enough to make you two. (Despite the presence of a TLDR, it would be nice if you actually read everything.)

 

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NOTE: This is ALL theory. I apologize if some things aren't necessarily clear or anything; I have a bit of trouble with relaying my thoughts with the written word. Feel free to refute some points and things, but just don't be an assbutt about it.

 

EDIT: I totally forgot about any of the interviews when I wrote this, and as a result some points are blatantly wrong. Sooo just disregard that whole thing regarding dual-wielding and that one paragraph above it.

Edited February 16, 2014 by Xiro

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

They unlock things

[ReikuSSR 1,071]

So earlier today I was randomly thinking about Keyblades and how one 'stores' them when not in use. I always assumed it was just some alternate dimension storage thing or Hammerspace or whatever you would like to call it. Then I thought: What if Keyblade wielders stored their Keyblades in their hearts? That then somehow turned into this thought:

 

What if Keyblades were created from one's heart?

 

Dream Drop Distance explained that Keyblades were forged in the image of the χ-blade, but we don't know what methods were used to forge them. So creating Keyblades from one's heart is a possibility. After all, Keyblades only come into the possession of those with strong hearts.

 

But what about the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony that Terra and Aqua performed on Riku and Kairi? Well, perhaps that was just the planting of a seed, the facilitation of the growth of their hearts so they could become strong enough to have Keyblades of their own.

 

But Riku didn’t get his own Keyblade until… KHII. His heart wasn’t strong enough to him to have a Keyblade of his own, due to him always grappling with the darkness and his own self-doubt. It was strong enough, however, to use Sora’s Keyblade in KH and Roxas’s in Days.

 

Speaking of Roxas, what about him and Xion? They just used Sora and Ven’s Keyblades, right? But as DDD said, Nobodies can grow their own hearts. So it’s possible that Roxas had his own Keyblade the entire time he had a heart, and/or he used Sora’s/Ventus’s until his heart had grown enough. Same with Xion. She couldn’t even use a Keyblade until that one Darkside mission (I don’t remember specific days and things, so yeah), and then lost the ability to use the Keyblade until that other mission when she used Roxas’s Keyblade (and Roxas got stuck with a stick).

This could also be a reason as to why Xemnas doesn’t use a Keyblade: it would require him to grow a heart.

 

On the Topic of Dual Wielding:

 

Dual-wielding is either brought about by using someone else’s Keyblade or having a heart strong enough to produce two. Roxas could use Xion’s (or as many believe, Ventus’s) Keyblade along with his own at the end of Days and in KHII. It’s also possible that Roxas’s grown heart became strong enough for him to have two. As to which idea is correct, or if either of them are correct… well, that’s still up in the air.

 

One thing that has been discussed in the past is whether Sora would be able to dual-wield after Ven and Roxas and everyone else is saved and their hearts no longer reside within Sora. If we go with the “more hearts = more Keyblades” theory, then the answer would be no. But if that were, true, wouldn’t Sora be able to wield more Keyblades? He’s got Roxas, Ven, and Xion in him. Those plus his own would give him a grand total of four Keyblades. But he only uses either one or two. Why?

 

Because he doesn’t use the others’ Keyblades.

 

Think about it. Sora is the main character, and his heart has grown a lot over the course of the series. Who’s to say that his heart isn’t strong enough for him to have two Keyblades?

Also, look at Sora vs. Roxas in KHIIFM. Sora has his one Keyblade while Roxas still has two. If Roxas used Sora’s or Ven’s Keyblades, how could he use two if Sora was using his own? And if Roxas had Roxas’s heart and Sora didn’t have Roxas’s heart, how could Sora have used three Keyblades (albeit temporarily)? Of course, you could always throw in quantum mechanics and argue that Roxas’s heart is both in Sora and Roxas via superposition, but I digress. Since Sora was only using one, he could have borrowed Roxas’s two for a bit to knock out an HP bar or two, and Roxas either used his and Xion’s or had a heart strong enough to have two.

 

Last but not least is Lea. He, training under Merlin, tried to learn how to wield a Keyblade, but couldn’t do it when the time came and things went down at TWTNW. But at the end of the game, he summoned one (much to everyone’s surprise). So, one can theorize that Lea's heart wasn't strong enough, and that the battle at TWTNW was enough to strengthen Lea’s heart and produce a Keyblade.

Also, it is possible that the heart can create a unique Keychain for the wielder, such as Lea’s Keyblade and Riku’s Way to the Dawn.

 

I believe that is all I have to say on the matter. TL;DR: The heart is like a big and burly blacksmith that forges you a Keyblade. Some can get so big and burly that they’re strong enough to make you two. (Despite the presence of a TLDR, it would be nice if you actually read everything.)

 

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NOTE: This is ALL theory. I apologize if some things aren't necessarily clear or anything; I have a bit of trouble with relaying my thoughts with the written word. Feel free to refute some points and things, but just don't be an assbutt about it.

It maybe in relation to why the keychains change the look of the keyblade, for that is forged from the memories that a wielder has with they keychain and the event or people they have been in contact with. 

Almost a mental and spiritual manifestation.

[Xiro 3,468]

It maybe in relation to why the keychains change the look of the keyblade, for that is forged from the memories that a wielder has with they keychain and the event or people they have been in contact with. 

Almost a mental and spiritual manifestation.

Whoops, I forgot that Keychains were formed by memories and stuff.

[ReikuSSR 1,071]

Whoops, I forgot that Keychains were formed by memories and stuff.

Keyblades are the keys of life, and embracing the means of truly living makes one's keyblade stronger, or more evil. 

[Dracozombie 4,554]

My own headcanon for this is actually remarkably similar to yours, if not nearly identical.  Strange minds think alike?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

 There are so many things to address in your post i'll answer things in bold  :

So earlier today I was randomly thinking about Keyblades and how one 'stores' them when not in use. I always assumed it was just some alternate dimension storage thing or Hammerspace or whatever you would like to call it. Then I thought: What if Keyblade wielders stored their Keyblades in their hearts? That then somehow turned into this thought:

 

What if Keyblades were created from one's heart?

 

Dream Drop Distance explained that Keyblades were forged in the image of the χ-blade, but we don't know what methods were used to forge them. So creating Keyblades from one's heart is a possibility. After all, Keyblades only come into the possession of those with strong hearts.

 

But what about the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony that Terra and Aqua performed on Riku and Kairi? Well, perhaps that was just the planting of a seed, the facilitation of the growth of their hearts so they could become strong enough to have Keyblades of their own.

 

The ceremony only allows the person to be able to be considered to be a wielder . It's not a guarantee and a keyblade must judge their heart worthy and then pick them .

 

But Riku didn’t get his own Keyblade until… KHII. His heart wasn’t strong enough to him to have a Keyblade of his own, due to him always grappling with the darkness and his own self-doubt. It was strong enough, however, to use Sora’s Keyblade in KH and Roxas’s in Days.

 

Speaking of Roxas, what about him and Xion? They just used Sora and Ven’s Keyblades, right? But as DDD said, Nobodies can grow their own hearts. So it’s possible that Roxas had his own Keyblade the entire time he had a heart, and/or he used Sora’s/Ventus’s until his heart had grown enough. Same with Xion. She couldn’t even use a Keyblade until that one Darkside mission (I don’t remember specific days and things, so yeah), and then lost the ability to use the Keyblade until that other mission when she used Roxas’s Keyblade (and Roxas got stuck with a stick).

This could also be a reason as to why Xemnas doesn’t use a Keyblade: it would require him to grow a heart.

 

Nomura already confirmed Xemnas could prolly wield but chose not to for reasons. Secondly it is confirmed fact as well that Roxas and Sora both wielded Sora's keyblade and dual wields with Ven's. Xion's is fake and a imitation as stated in game and confirmed by Nomura :

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?
A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades.

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

[picture: Roxas and Riku fighting]

Roxas awakens his ability to dual-wield with his will to not forget Xion who also wielded a keyblade.

 

- In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion�s? 

Nomura: Well, it isn�t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion�s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a �heart� to be able to wield one. So strictly speaking, they are being influenced by Sora. At the present I can�t say more than that, since it would go into whether or not Roxas has a heart. And there is also a part that has to do with Xehanort�s memories. This time there were connections to the Kingdom Hearts secret movie, and the time will come when this will have a clear connection as well. You�ll just have to ask me then.

 

 Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora’s memories to be restored, both Sora’s Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody?

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn’t think that she was Sora or Kairi’s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that’s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion’s, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn’t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

 

 

On the Topic of Dual Wielding:

 

Dual-wielding is either brought about by using someone else’s Keyblade or having a heart strong enough to produce two. Roxas could use Xion’s (or as many believe, Ventus’s) Keyblade along with his own at the end of Days and in KHII. It’s also possible that Roxas’s grown heart became strong enough for him to have two. As to which idea is correct, or if either of them are correct… well, that’s still up in the air.

 

Roxas did not use Xion's as I stated above . This is confirmed fact . He did however share power with her throughout Days and both drew that power from Sora.

 

One thing that has been discussed in the past is whether Sora would be able to dual-wield after Ven and Roxas and everyone else is saved and their hearts no longer reside within Sora. If we go with the “more hearts = more Keyblades” theory, then the answer would be no. But if that were, true, wouldn’t Sora be able to wield more Keyblades? He’s got Roxas, Ven, and Xion in him. Those plus his own would give him a grand total of four Keyblades. But he only uses either one or two. Why?

 

Dual wielding is brought about by having another wielders heart inside another wielders body just like Sora and Roxas had Ven's heart inside their body . One can also temporarily hold anothers keyblade if needed. These are the conditons set by Nomura himself . Roxas and sora were confirmed to use Sora's and Ven's keyblades as shown above.Xions is a fake so no no and no 

 

Because he doesn’t use the others’ Keyblades.

 

Think about it. Sora is the main character, and his heart has grown a lot over the course of the series. Who’s to say that his heart isn’t strong enough for him to have two Keyblades?

Also, look at Sora vs. Roxas in KHIIFM. Sora has his one Keyblade while Roxas still has two. If Roxas used Sora’s or Ven’s Keyblades, how could he use two if Sora was using his own? And if Roxas had Roxas’s heart and Sora didn’t have Roxas’s heart, how could Sora have used three Keyblades (albeit temporarily)? Of course, you could always throw in quantum mechanics and argue that Roxas’s heart is both in Sora and Roxas via superposition, but I digress. Since Sora was only using one, he could have borrowed Roxas’s two for a bit to knock out an HP bar or two, and Roxas either used his and Xion’s or had a heart strong enough to have two.

 

This fight was fought in the heart station allowing them both to use Ven's and Sora's keyblade at the same time . Sora could also grab both of Roxas' while still manifesting his bc of this phenomenom. Sora's keyblade had also been used at the same time all through the end of KH1 and CoM as well and can exist in more than one place at the exact same time .Nomura talks about them using the same keyblade at the same time here :

 

VII - In KH, at the same time Sora became a Heartless Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that's the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion Sora used a Keyblade while at the same time Roxas would have been using a Keyblade. Was this Sora's Keyblade? Within the Organization I think we particularly saw Roxas using a Keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

The Keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This is can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two Keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort's memories, but this point can't be touched on just yet.

Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the Keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization's expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas's movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the Organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.

 

Last but not least is Lea. He, training under Merlin, tried to learn how to wield a Keyblade, but couldn’t do it when the time came and things went down at TWTNW. But at the end of the game, he summoned one (much to everyone’s surprise). So, one can theorize that Lea's heart wasn't strong enough, and that the battle at TWTNW was enough to strengthen Lea’s heart and produce a Keyblade.

Also, it is possible that the heart can create a unique Keychain for the wielder, such as Lea’s Keyblade and Riku’s Way to the Dawn.

 

This could be true but also it takes time after being given the ceremony for one to get chosen by a keyblade if they even will be ( bc it's not a guarentee) .As for his keyblade , I do believe it's possible his heart used his chackrams as a base just like Riku's heart used the Soul Eater as a base for WtD

 

I believe that is all I have to say on the matter. TL;DR: The heart is like a big and burly blacksmith that forges you a Keyblade. Some can get so big and burly that they’re strong enough to make you two.

 

Nomura has already set the conditions for dual wielding and unless he retcons that it takes one keyblade per wielders heart not limitless keyblades from one heart.

 

 

 

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NOTE: This is ALL theory. I apologize if some things aren't necessarily clear or anything; I have a bit of trouble with relaying my thoughts with the written word. Feel free to refute some points and things, but just don't be an assbutt about it.

It maybe in relation to why the keychains change the look of the keyblade, for that is forged from the memories that a wielder has with they keychain and the event or people they have been in contact with. 

Almost a mental and spiritual manifestation.

 

 

Yes Keychains change the appearance and stats of a keyblade based off memories,connections, and experiences the keychain was based off of .

Edited February 16, 2014 by Flaming Lea

[Xiro 3,468]

 There are so many things to address in your post i'll answer things in bold  :

 

Yes Keychains change the appearance and stats of a keyblade based off memories,connections, and experiences the keychain was based off of .

Welp. You refuted almost every single point. Just... dang

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Welp. You refuted almost every single point. Just... dang

 

Sorry just trying to help you understand anything you might have missed

[VisitJoan 2,713]

If anything from the series makes the heart stronger, it's seeing an old friend turned into a robot and realizing that's why he was a jerk this whole time.

[Xiro 3,468]

Sorry just trying to help you understand anything you might have missed

It's quite all right. Looks like I'll have to recheck my facts next time

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

It's quite all right. Looks like I'll have to recheck my facts next time

 

The interviews are very helpful so if you have some spare time check them out. You won't be sorry bc it's great reading