Aang 649 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Hello all! Black History month is apparently in affect. And I wanted to know your opinions on if it is necessary or not. An entire month dedicated to one race? Is it fair? Yes, or no and why. Should every race get a month dedicated to them? Yes, or no and why. I personally, think that no race is better than the other. That all have equal opportunity to excel in life. And that it's not the race, but the person that happens to be that race. I think that celebrating an entire race is wrong. Even if there wasn't one for black people but for white, or Asians, etc. I think it's wrong for all races. Because it's what the person has done, not the race. There are good, and bad people in every race. Not to mention, celebrating the Blacks, and Latinos, and not celebrating the other four races. It's implying that they deserved to be recognized, and not the others. People sometime say, it's due to the fact that blacks were once slaves. They're free now, so don't cry about it. No one in this, or the last generation were slaves. And, not just blacks were slaves, but all races were slaves in every part of the world. Overall: I think that all races have equal opportunity. And that no race deserves it's own holiday. Because it's the person, not the race. Let me know your opinions below! And leave a like or else ^_^ -Aang NOTE: This thread is for members to converse there opinions. No racial discrimination, or arguing is intended. This thread is completely necessary, due to the fact that it is Black History Month. Edited February 7, 2014 by Aang 1 Soravids reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) *walks into thread* *looks around* "Nope not touching." *leaves thread* Edited February 8, 2014 by Squirting Demyx 10 xoblivionx13, Jilly Shears, MasterXemnas and 7 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aang 649 Posted February 7, 2014 *walks into thread* *looks around* *nope not touching* *leaves thread* ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Shears 2,144 Posted February 7, 2014 Well no shit black people deserve a whole month dedicated to the awesome shit they've contributed even while they fought almost 100 years just to get the right to eat at the same damn restaurant table as white people in the US 3 Dave, Shana09 and RoxSox reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruby Rose 8,591 Posted February 7, 2014 Everyone living in the United States should just be called "Americans" We're all human, no one's of a different species, and the color of you skin doesn't have anything to do with biology- it's an uncool social construct I'm American, people of darker skin living in America are Americans, people of lighter skin living in America are Americans 7 _The Door To Light_, MasterRoxas13, Aang and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aang 649 Posted February 7, 2014 Well no shit black people deserve a whole month dedicated to the awesome shit they've contributed even while they fought almost 100 years just to get the right to eat at the same damn restaurant table as white people in the US When considering Racial holidays, you have to look at the big picture. White people as a whole have contributed greatly for the innovation, of America, and the whole world. Asians fought for freedom during the Vietnam War, and got it. All races have contributed to the evolution, and innovation of the world. Your argument is closed minded. In order to understand fully, you must look at the big picture. 1 Soravids reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterRoxas13 340 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) its not about putting one race over another, but appreciating those who fought for civil rights in the 20th century ( women should have their own month/ months IMO) . The Civil rights movement would not have been a success without key figures throughout the 20 century ( black and latino). without those leaders the civil rights movement would not have existed, which means that only White males in the U.S would be the only first class citizens in the whole country Black people had it the worse in the U.S, the things that used to happen here would make your whole body shake if you was to find out. Edited February 7, 2014 by MasterRoxas13 2 Robbie the Wise and RoxSox reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceriraye 485 Posted February 7, 2014 I would Suggest to lock this tread. Quickly 1 RoxSox reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 7, 2014 All I'm going to say here is we all bleed red .No one should be valued more or less due to being born with a skin color they had no choice in . It's who they are as a person that matters and their personal accomplishments that should matter regardless of race or gender . We should celebrate great accomplishments and movements that helped make equality more possible whether it's race or gender oppression. 2 Aang and _The Door To Light_ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aang 649 Posted February 7, 2014 its not about putting one race over another, but appreciating those who fought for civil rights in the 20th century ( women should have their own month/ months IMO) . The Civil rights movement would not have been a success without key figures throughout the 20 century ( black and latino). without those leaders the civil rights movement would not have existed, which means that only White males in the U.S would be the only first class citizens in the whole country Black people had it the worse in the U.S, the things that used to happen here would make your whole body shake if you was to find out. Native Americans had it the worse- not Blacks. Native Americans were lied, cheated, bullied, treated like animals, and nearly wiped out. 2 Roxas Illini and Rizzyy reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Shears 2,144 Posted February 7, 2014 When considering Racial holidays, you have to look at the big picture. White people as a whole have contributed greatly for the innovation, of America, and the whole world. Asians fought for freedom during the Vietnam War, and got it. All races have contributed to the evolution, and innovation of the world. Your argument is closed minded. In order to understand fully, you must look at the big picture. You do realize Vietnam turned communist after the big fail of the Vietnam War, right? If you're going to try to undermine me because of my "closed minded" arguments, at least know your facts dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aang 649 Posted February 7, 2014 All I'm going to say here is we all bleed red .No one should be valued more or less due to being born with a skin color they had no choice in . It's who they are as a person that matters and their personal accomplishments that should matter regardless of race or gender . We should celebrate great accomplishments and movements that helped make equality more possible whether it's race or gender oppression. I agree completely. You do realize Vietnam turned communist after the big fail of the Vietnam War, right? If you're going to try to undermine me because of my "closed minded" arguments, at least know your facts dude. I was talking about the Asians that were locked away in camps during the Vietnam War. On US soil. Not affairs in there nation. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalalablah 1,538 Posted February 7, 2014 "Its precursor, “Negro History Week,” was created by Dr. Carter G. Woodson in 1926 and observed on the second week of February. A staunch Republican, Woodson chose that week in that month to honor the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln. Woodson created Negro History Week because Black Americans and their accomplishments were largely left out of the educational curricula of that time. Where Blacks were mentioned, it was usually very demeaning imagery or discriminatory ideas. Woodson founded the Association for the Study of Negro (now African-American) Life and History in 1915 and the Journal of Negro History in 1916. He was dedicated to helping educate Black and White Americans about Blacks and their accomplishments and potential in a way that would benefit everyone. His week-long observance was expanded to become Black History Month—officially recognized by the U.S. government—in 1976. Unlike it often seems to be today, Woodson never intended Black history to be about Black firsts and a parade of Black icons. Woodson was a scholar. He intended this observance as a means to get around the institutional hatred of the era and ultimately have this new information included in the teaching of American history, period. In particular, Woodson wanted Black Americans to understand the strong family values, work ethic, sense of individual responsibility, spirit of entrepreneurship and incredible dignity that was indicative of Black Americans and their African ancestors. This educational pursuit was also important to Woodson because he felt that historical awareness would inspire Black Americans of his time to avoid becoming dependent on government to do for them what they could do for themselves. Woodson also believed that, if White Americans knew the true history of Blacks in America and in Africa, it would help overcome negative stereotyping. Negro History Week was envisioned as a tool to develop and cultivate new awareness and new critiques. It was about unity. It was not a basis for ethnocentric pride and cultural divide—the path radical Black Americans on the left have pursued over the past few decades. I personally take advantage of the national spotlight that Black History Month provides to educate others about the real history leftist scholars rewrite or ignore, and stress the original purpose of Negro History Week. Woodson’s vision was that someday a special week or month would no longer be required in order to appropriately honor Black Americans and their accomplishments. Black history is American history—and a year-round school curricula relevant to all. But that won’t occur under the oversight of the U.S. Department of Education as long as there continues to be a left-wing domination of public education. When we segregate months to highlight ethnicities and genders, we cease to simply recognize accomplishments and instead encourage disunity among Americans of all stripes. The political left deserves scorn for their determination to keep America divided along ethnic, cultural and so-called class lines. I am thankful for the work and the vision of Dr. Carter G. Woodson. History is indeed a human need. His contribution and that of other Black Americans is considerable and far too important to ever be compartmentalized into just one month. I pray for a day when Dr. Woodson’s desire to observe “Negro History” comes to proper fruition." http://diverseeducation.com/article/51297/ I don't care whether there is a month to celebrate it or not, it doesn't affect me in any way and I am fine with those who chose to celebrate it. 1 Aang reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterRoxas13 340 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) it is equal in my opinion blacks were put into slavery, for 300 years, separated from their families in Africa by force or captivity around 1/4 died on the way to America due to a number of factors Treated as animals and livestock during their times as slaves The black women were often raped by their white masters ( this happens often in slavery) Some slaves were forced to fight on the South side during the Civil War Blacks were killed just for walking in the same street as a white man before the end of the 1960s. Don't be black and be caught talking to a white women either back then or a lynch mob would be right after you. beaten and put into prison just for asking for the same rights as their white counterparts. etc Edited February 7, 2014 by MasterRoxas13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 7, 2014 I agree completely. I was talking about the Asians that were locked away in camps during the Vietnam War. On US soil. Not affairs in there nation. I think that every movement that helped eliminate oppression should be celebrated and be taught about bc it's how we have become the current country we are today . I want us to someday be able to not even see each others skin color or gender when we celebrate accomplishments of great people . Instead we can celebrate great americans period. 1 Aang reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PillowHead 569 Posted February 7, 2014 As a white guy, I've never really been affected by it. I don't really view it as one race being more deserving than another, I view it as "Hey, a lot of shit happened, let's make sure it doesn't ever happen again, ever, for the rest of eternity, ever." 7 HarLea Quinn, Shana09, Neptune Vasilias and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted February 7, 2014 As a white guy, I've never really been affected by it. I don't really view it as one race being more deserving than another, I view it as "Hey, a lot of shit happened, let's make sure it doesn't ever happen again, ever, for the rest of eternity, ever." Agreed! I'm soo quota but i'll be back to like this when i can 1 PillowHead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lea12345 47 Posted February 7, 2014 seems fair to me I mean its not highly celebrated there's not a black history tree or black or treating and were not all eating turkey on black history day so I mean its just one of those things you know about and sometimes think about but not really celebrate much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neptune Vasilias 340 Posted February 7, 2014 As a African-American I think it's nice to see our ancestors recognized for there contributions towards their community,Equal rights among others, and society in a whole. I would love to see a month for every nationality which I've wanted since I would say 7 years old. So is it necessary,yes for those who don't know,should,need to know, and those who would like to be refreshed. Though if it doesn't apply to you then I guess it's not necessary to you. 1 Ceriraye reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted February 7, 2014 its not about putting one race over another, but appreciating those who fought for civil rights in the 20th century ( women should have their own month/ months IMO) . The Civil rights movement would not have been a success without key figures throughout the 20 century ( black and latino). without those leaders the civil rights movement would not have existed, which means that only White males in the U.S would be the only first class citizens in the whole country Black people had it the worse in the U.S, the things that used to happen here would make your whole body shake if you was to find out.Exactly this. Its not about celebrating at all its about educating and remembering the struggle it took for for us as a society to make progress. 1 Dracozombie reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterRoxas13 340 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) yea their should be other months too like a Asian American month, Native American month, Women's month etc. ok one last thing the reason why their is no white or Caucasian history month is because we base most if not all our history off Europeans ( not trying to sound rude ) The rise and fall of Rome,The crusades, Spain, France, and Great Britain becoming superpowers, The age of discovery, the American revolution, all of that is European history. Edited February 8, 2014 by Shana09 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aang 649 Posted February 7, 2014 it is equal in my opinion blacks were put into slavery, for 300 years, separated from their families in Africa by force or captivity around 1/4 died on the way to America due to a number of factors Treated as animals and livestock during their times as slaves The black women were often raped by their white masters ( this happens often in slavery) Some slaves were forced to fight on the South side during the Civil War Blacks were killed just for walking in the same street as a white man before the end of the 1960s. Don't be black and be caught talking to a white women either back then or a lynch mob would be right after you. beaten and put into prison just for asking for the same rights as their white counterparts. etc Not all slaves were treated like that. Many were, but not all. And as for the Native Americans, *They were taken from there homes. *Seperated from there families. *Lied, and decieved many, many times. *Forced off of there own lands *Were arrested for just being Native American *Were almost completely wiped out etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterRoxas13 340 Posted February 7, 2014 Not trying turn this into a pissing contest . According to my American history professor blacks were treated the worse and for a longer time so. I think it was pretty bad for both races so I will leave it at that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Villi1997 1,832 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) Yeah... I'm not touching that one with a 10 ft pole... Edited February 7, 2014 by Villi1997 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxas Illini 49 Posted February 7, 2014 Which party supported the institute of slavery? The Democrats. Which party formed the Klu Klux Clan to intimidate blacks? The Democrats. Who ignored the Supreme Court, starting a chain of events leading to the trail of tears? Andrew Jackson, father of the modern Democrat party. [end political arguements here] Blacks are not the only ethnic group to have it hard here in America. The Irish were looked down upon with contempt. The Japanese were interned. Other ethic groups don't have a whole month devoted to their history in America. And let us not forget that their fellow blacks sold them into slavery to the Europeans in Africa. I think racism is something that people use to make themselves feel better than others. This is not something exclusive to America. In Ancient Rome, non-Romans were barely better than slaves. 2 Aang and _The Door To Light_ reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites