The seven lights? ?

[SorrowSurvivor 191]

Xehanort will be stumped trying to find the 7 Wonders of Twilight Town!

 

He'll get stuck on the staircase. Xion didn't get an Organization chair because Xehanort didn't count properly.

 

No. He said specifically that one of the highlights of the climax will be who is part of the seven lights and thirteen darknesses. So I guess we'll have a lot of important characters in the game, and we'll have to guess which twenty of them are the ones.

Personally, I already have a guess on the seven, but it currently doesn't account for whatever new main characters may be introduced in KH3. I think that the seven will contain one representant from each group.

1- Sora - Representing the Destiny Island trio

2- Mickey - Representing the Disney trio

3- Xion - Representing the Twilight Town trio. Also, I think it would have a lot of significance if Xion, not Lea, would be the one to save Isa, as in "I know you only see me as a tool, but you're still Axel's friend, and I'll save you because of that"

4- Terra - Representing the Land of Departure trio. And he was the most affected by Xehanort's actions

 

Now the other three are where it gets tricky. First, let's remember that Nomura that the lights aren't neccessarily wielders. For now, my random guesses (which may be updated later) for these are:

5- Adam (Beast) - He's the only Disney prince with the power to move between the worlds. And even if he's not a light, I still think he'll play a large role because of Belle

6- Ansem the Wise - Even if not a fighter, his data is part of the key for saving everyone else. No one said the seven lights have to be fighting, only that they would be used to forge the χ-blade.

7- Vanitas - "Even in the deepest darkness, there's always a light that never goes out", having Vanitas becoming good would be a literalization of this phrase.

Also, the novels state that he a sad and painful life after birth, and only did the things he did because Xehanort said becoming the χ-blade would his only way of salvation. And while Nomura stated the novels are canon (according to Flaming Lea, but I haven't found the interview yet), he said he sometimes takes ideas from them. Plus, when Xehanort describes Vanitas to Terra, he says that he is "an abomination beyond hope of salvation". Regardless of novel canonicity, the use of the word "salvation" sounds a bit suspicious to me, as it implies there's something to be saved. Also, how about proving Xehanort wrong?

 

Other alternatives for my list are:

-Kairi instead of Sora, as she would represent both Destiny Island and the Princesses of Heart

-Young Xehanort somewhere. Ben Diskin said he was instructed to voice young Xehanort ambiguously because "people are different when they are younger from when they are older, and we do not know if Xehanort is already evil of if he's considering that he doesn't like who he becomes". Since these orders actually came from the Japanese staff, I don't think this part will be ignored.

Someone suggested in another post that maybe he'll go like "I cannot change fate, nor what has already happened. But I can stop it now!"

Perhaps in the end, after the final battle, Sora will use the Key to Return Hearts to create a new body to where the young Xehanort transfers a part of his heart, so that he can be saved and have a second chance, while at the same time returning to his era to complete his fate. I mean, Nomura seems to be willing to give a happy ending to anyone who deserves, and if the young Xehanort is really not evil, then it would have a bad taste to just have him be forced to go back to his era and become evil with no kind of hope.

-Riku Replica? Isa?

 

Ansem the Wise probably won't be. He left his data to Riku so the others can figure it out and while yes, the Lights don't have to be keyblade wielders, Yen Sid said they needed 7 Guardians of Light so they should be able to at least fight or else why not just bring in the pricesses if they just need to stand there. Also the heroes are doing this to prevent the X-blade from being forged so they would need the lights to be as combat strong as possible. That's also why I think they'll aim for more than 7 lights with all of the potential fighters they have plus new characters.

 

I'm not sure Terra will be saved early on enough to be an "official" light or at least he won't have his proper body. Same goes for Vanitas and Isa; they both will surely cross over to the good side but it might be during or just before the big clash and so the 7 lights would have already been chosen.

 

It would seem strange if Aqua, Ven, Riku and other main characters weren't one of the lights so maybe Nomura was just avoiding spoilers by saying part of the climax is the 7 vs 13 clash OR there will be a 7 vs 13 battle at the same time that the other important characters have to go elsewhere to deal with something urgent. Maybe even Marluxia could rise up again with his own group.

 

I wouldn't want Young Xehanort to come back since timetravel in any story makes everything confusing and his older self should be the one to deal/reflect upon whatever happens.

 

If Disney characters like the Beast could be a light then maybe by "familiar" Nomura meant some of the darknesses are Disney characters. Then there is still that empty spot that Sora was supposed to fill so I hope it's like you said that we'll see a lot of new characters who could end up going to either side with some of then hopefully having a connection to old Org XIII members 9-12.

[EricBwn 86]

As long as Xion and Roxas aren't part of the final battle I'll be happy. 

[jjzzpp 0]

What worlds do you think think will be in kingdom hearts 3 and what do you think the helper characters will be?  :mellow:

[Ruby Rose 8,591]

He'll get stuck on the staircase. Xion didn't get an Organization chair because Xehanort didn't count properly.   Ansem the Wise probably won't be. He left his data to Riku so the others can figure it out and while yes, the Lights don't have to be keyblade wielders, Yen Sid said they needed 7 Guardians of Light so they should be able to at least fight or else why not just bring in the pricesses if they just need to stand there. Also the heroes are doing this to prevent the X-blade from being forged so they would need the lights to be as combat strong as possible. That's also why I think they'll aim for more than 7 lights with all of the potential fighters they have plus new characters. I'm not sure Terra will be saved early on enough to be an "official" light or at least he won't have his proper body. Same goes for Vanitas and Isa; they both will surely cross over to the good side but it might be during or just before the big clash and so the 7 lights would have already been chosen. It would seem strange if Aqua, Ven, Riku and other main characters weren't one of the lights so maybe Nomura was just avoiding spoilers by saying part of the climax is the 7 vs 13 clash OR there will be a 7 vs 13 battle at the same time that the other important characters have to go elsewhere to deal with something urgent. Maybe even Marluxia could rise up again with his own group. I wouldn't want Young Xehanort to come back since timetravel in any story makes everything confusing and his older self should be the one to deal/reflect upon whatever happens. If Disney characters like the Beast could be a light then maybe by "familiar" Nomura meant some of the darknesses are Disney characters. Then there is still that empty spot that Sora was supposed to fill so I hope it's like you said that we'll see a lot of new characters who could end up going to either side with some of then hopefully having a connection to old Org XIII members 9-12.

If Xehanort can't count properly, and Rai can't count properly...Rai is also a Xehanort o.o

[Noah schiff 4]

i keep forgetting that Axel is now Lea

also who do you think will be playable i think it would be really cool to play as kairi. 

[Duel Wield Master 8]

I thought the confirmed 7 lights was Sora, Riku, Aqua, Terra,Ventus, and Mickey plus a hint of Kairi being the 7th.

Anyway I sort of think that Riku, Terra, and Kairi, shouldn't be part of the 7 lights because Riku and Terra both submitted to the darkness, and Kairi is one of the princesses of hearts. So that means there are 3 missing lights in my opinion.

[G-SANtos 105]

I thought the confirmed 7 lights was Sora, Riku, Aqua, Terra,Ventus, and Mickey plus a hint of Kairi being the 7th.

Anyway I sort of think that Riku, Terra, and Kairi, shouldn't be part of the 7 lights because Riku and Terra both submitted to the darkness, and Kairi is one of the princesses of hearts. So that means there are 3 missing lights in my opinion.

No one is confirmed.

 

 

Ansem the Wise probably won't be. He left his data to Riku so the others can figure it out and while yes, the Lights don't have to be keyblade wielders, Yen Sid said they needed 7 Guardians of Light so they should be able to at least fight or else why not just bring in the pricesses if they just need to stand there. Also the heroes are doing this to prevent the X-blade from being forged so they would need the lights to be as combat strong as possible. That's also why I think they'll aim for more than 7 lights with all of the potential fighters they have plus new characters.

Actually, Xehanort's plan is to use the heroes to forge the χ-blade, with the Princesses being a plan B in case the heroes don't show up. The pieces of light don't need to be the actual shards of the Keyblade, only people with strong light. Xehanort figured at some point in BBS that the pieces are interchangeable, thus he decided to have Aqua as a spare even though her heart is not pure light. You may also notice he is actually going to use himself and 12 clones to forge the blade, rather than actually searching for the actual shards of darkness.

I actually think the foring of the χ-blade is unavoidable.

 

And the reason they have to protect the Princesses is because their hearts actually hold the universe.

 

 

I'm not sure Terra will be saved early on enough to be an "official" light or at least he won't have his proper body. Same goes for Vanitas and Isa; they both will surely cross over to the good side but it might be during or just before the big clash and so the 7 lights would have already been chosen.

Forget what I said. Someone recently brought up in KHInsider that Xehanort is actually using his own body now, so Terra has his own body, but is being controlled by Xehanort. The person also mentioned the same may be happening to Eraqus. If you want to read, here you go.

 

 

It would seem strange if Aqua, Ven, Riku and other main characters weren't one of the lights[..]

 

Which is exactly why it would be a surprise.

 

 

I wouldn't want Young Xehanort to come back since timetravel in any story makes everything confusing and his older self should be the one to deal/reflect upon whatever happens.

The old man is probably unredeemableby this point. Young Xehanort at least has been indicated by the staff to not be neccessarily evil, and from the Xehanort Reports, I get the impression that Xehanort wasn't evil until he let a ton of darkness enter his body while in the Lanes Between.

Seeing how second chances are a very strong theme in the series, it would seem a bit off if he were simply sent back to his time without any sort of second chance since you can't change fate, so the only solution I see to this would have the Key to Return Hearts somehow allowing Xehanort to simultaneously go back to the past and stay in the present.

 

 

If Disney characters like the Beast could be a light then maybe by "familiar" Nomura meant some of the darknesses are Disney characters. Then there is still that empty spot that Sora was supposed to fill so I hope it's like you said that we'll see a lot of new characters who could end up going to either side with some of then hopefully having a connection to old Org XIII members 9-12.

I don't think there's any Disney villain popular or important enough to fit there.

Also, if you go by the theory I linked above, "familiar" could mean that Eraqus is included.

Edited February 2, 2014 by G-SANtos

[KH4Real 749]

No one is confirmed.

Actually Mickey confirmed them.The most likely seven lights:1. Sora2. Kairi3. Riku4. Mickey5. Aqua6. Ventus7. Lea

[Aile 273]

1. Donald

2. Goofy3. Pluto

4. Moogle

5. That Traverse Town kid that looks like Tidus6. Random Twilight Town NCP7. LeaHere you go, 7 lights!

[G-SANtos 105]

Actually Mickey confirmed them.The most likely seven lights:1. Sora2. Kairi3. Riku4. Mickey5. Aqua6. Ventus7. Lea

No, he didn't. That was his speculation. He thought the lights are Keyblade wielders and was just listing all the ones he knew, but Nomura said the lights aren't neccessarily Keyblade wielders, which already debunks Mickey's words.

Nomura said the seven lights will be a surprise, and that who they are will only be revealed in the climax, so there's no way for anyone to be confirmed at this point.