Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 [VIDEO] [/VIDEO] I mean seriously,almostevery single modern main entry in the FF series(except for XIV maybe) since XIII totally forgot the main theme I just don't know why??Couldn't they remix it for XIII,XIII-2?? Aside from Dissidia,Theatrhythm and rereleases,the main theme was completely forgotten in recent entries This is like playing Zelda without the glorious Hyrule Field theme that has been remixed and rearranged in every single Zelda game but it's still there,or like playing a Mario game without Mario's theme,or heck playing a Pokemon game without the awesome track that plays on every main Pokemon entry's title screen. I know I'm so nitpicking at this point,but at least I want the small touches that made Final Fantasy into Final Fantasy to be at least there if everything else doesn't feel like Final Fantasy. Please tell me that LRFFXIII has the main Final Fantasy theme because I'm so sick of Leona LewisJ-Pop songs of XIIIXIII-2 replacing it during the endings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) You're welcome. Edited January 14, 2014 by Kaweebo 2 Dio Brando and Aang reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 That's the prelude I meant the theme that was literally named "Final Fantasy" since the days of FF1 But I agree here,the prelude also got forgotten Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) That's the prelude I meant the theme that was literally named "Final Fantasy" since the days of FF1 But I agree here,the prelude also got forgotten Ah. I dunno. I haven't even heard that theme since FFIV, tbh. I don't think it's been in any of the games since then. Edited January 14, 2014 by Kaweebo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
advfox 698 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) That must have been why I never felt like I wasn't playing a Final Fantasy game while playing XIII/XIII-2. I never noticed until you brought it up, but they even took out the memorable theme of the series. Edited January 14, 2014 by Rush 1 Shard the Gentleman reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Ah. I dunno. I haven't even heard that theme since FFIV, tbh. I don't think it's been in any of the games since then. It's been in every game and rarely a game missed it 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,12 all has that theme only few games like 8,10-2 and XIII were missing it back then but now unless it's a rerelease of an old game every modern game in the series misses the prelude and the main theme.....why? Again,it's like a main Pokemon game without the main theme from the title screen,Zelda without the Hyrule Field theme or any of it's remixes,or a Mario game without the main Mario theme Edited January 14, 2014 by Metal Snake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aang 649 Posted January 14, 2014 This soundtrack, good lord, it brings me joy. I miss it, so much. I literally listened to it several times before posting this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) It's been in every game and rarely a game missed it 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,12 all has that theme only few games like 8,10-2 and XIII were missing it back then but now unless it's a rerelease of an old game every modern game in the series misses the prelude and the main theme.....why? Again,it's like a main Pokemon game without the main theme from the title screen,Zelda without the Hyrule Field theme or any of it's remixes,or a Mario game without the main Mario theme Are you sure? Because I've been looking at all the soundtracks and I haven't heard that specific theme in any of them since V, now. (Just verified) Maybe it goes under another name in the other soundtracks, I don't know. I don't remember ever hearing it in, say, 7. I think they kind of abandoned it after the fifth or sixth game, which makes sense since they were trying to go for a new direction. Edited January 14, 2014 by Kaweebo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Are you sure? Because I've been looking at all the soundtracks and I haven't heard that specific theme in any of them since V, now. (Just verified) Maybe it goes under another name in the other soundtracks, I don't know. I don't remember ever hearing it in, say, 7. I think they kind of abandoned it after the fifth or sixth game, which makes sense since they were trying to go for a new direction. In 7 it plays during the credits,and in V and VI it's remixed somewhere in the game which can be also either the credits or the theme that plays during the ending which will change the track's name They didn't completely abandon the theme back in the 90's but they play in different places than the ones you expect As for the prelude it plays in every single game in the series except the XIII trilogy and maybe X-2 Even in FF8 it plays at the game over screen and it also plays somewhere in 9 other than the title screen since"A Place to Call Home" was the theme for the title screen My point is:why abandon musical ques that has been a trademark for the series in the new entries especially the prelude theme???It's not hard at all to include or remix since I've seen a fan-made XIII remix of the prelude as well as the main theme. And how about the Victory fanfare that every Final Fantasy game had except XIII and XIII-2 that has one of the stupidest and dullest victory theme I've ever had in any RPG Edited January 14, 2014 by Metal Snake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted January 14, 2014 In 7 it plays during the credits,and in V and VI it's remixed somewhere in the game which can be also either the credits or the theme that plays during the ending which will change the track's name They didn't completely abandon the theme back in the 90's but they play in different places than the ones you expect As for the prelude it plays in every single game in the series except the XIII trilogy and maybe X-2 Even in FF8 it plays at the game over screen and it also plays somewhere in 9 other than the title screen since"A Place to Call Home" was the theme for the title screen My point is:why abandon musical ques that has been a trademark for the series in the new entries especially the prelude theme???It's not hard at all to include or remix since I've seen a fan-made XIII remix of the prelude as well as the main theme. And how about the Victory fanfare that every Final Fantasy game had except XIII and XIII-2 that has one of the stupidest and dullest victory theme I've ever had in any RPG Well, as far as that goes, Square had been talking about how they wanted FFXIII to completely change Final Fantasy. That was their big thing, that FFXIII would change the series. They even partially abandoned turn-based gameplay. It makes sense that they'd strip the music ques so it'd FEEL different. It looks like XV will change even more because now they're COMPLETELY abandoning turn-based. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxClouDxxmoon 901 Posted January 14, 2014 It's FFXIII, who cares. 2 Zola and Kaweebo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) for your information, 'final fantasy' theme song never been used for ff2, ff10 and ff13, because ff10, the composers is not uematsu-san alone, but with hamauzu-san and nakano-san too, the director want to change the style of ff music, different from uematsu-san style. only ff10 and ff13 the theme exists in other ff games, some of the game did not use the theme as the main theme..something like adding the song as a 'cameo'.. the final fantasy theme on ff9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR0xdWgbPA besides, the theme of final fantasy is the theme of the original final fantasy, and since then become the overall theme for final fantasy till ff9, not to be mistaken with the theme of each final fantasy games. but different with the 'prelude', all final fantasy game use it accept ffxiii. the theme included in the recent arr: ffxiv (as prelude theme) it is most likely the final fantasy xv will have new theme song and does not recycled the old ff theme since the composer is our beloved yoko shimomura-san. MAYBE the only final fantasy song that exists in every final fantasy game is chocobo theme. updated, sorry for the wrong info earlier Edited January 14, 2014 by tothecikpah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 Well, as far as that goes, Square had been talking about how they wanted FFXIII to completely change Final Fantasy. That was their big thing, that FFXIII would change the series. They even partially abandoned turn-based gameplay. It makes sense that they'd strip the music ques so it'd FEEL different. It looks like XV will change even more because now they're COMPLETELY abandoning turn-based. FF12 didn't have turn-based combat and yet IT HAD THE PRELUDE,THE MAIN FINAL FANTASY THEME AND THE VICTORY FANFARE FOR MISSIONS AND CERTAIN BOSS BATTLES FF Type-0 had the prelude,victory fanfare,and the main theme played somewhere if I'm correct for your information, 'final fantasy' theme song never been used after ff9, not ff13, because starts with ff10, the composers is not uematsu-san alone, but with hamauzu-san and nakano-san too, the director want to change the style of ff music, different from uematsu-san style. the last final fantasy theme to be heard on final fantasy which is the ending of ff9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR0xdWgbPA Well,I was wrong about X and XI but I'm sure as hell that 12 used it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NemesisSP 160 Posted January 14, 2014 Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XIII does not include this song. And they do not have to, because while this is a great theme, it doesn't always fit with the game it's in. And when they do, they have to heavily stylize it in order to make it fit. Final Fantasy is ever evolving and things will always be different, even if there is some similarities from past games or songs are reused for a new game. If you're going to complain about a missing song, you're following the wrong series. 1 xxClouDxxmoon reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxClouDxxmoon 901 Posted January 14, 2014 for your information, 'final fantasy' theme song never been used after ff9, not ff13, because starts with ff10, the composers is not uematsu-san alone, but with hamauzu-san and nakano-san too, the director want to change the style of ff music, different from uematsu-san style. the last final fantasy theme to be heard on final fantasy which is the ending of ff9https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR0xdWgbPAUematsu himself wanted to try something new for FFX. The song so far has not appeared in FFII, FFX, and FFXIII. Though the Victory theme that is also a predominent theme in the series stopped at XIII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XIII does not include this song. And they do not have to, because while this is a great theme, it doesn't always fit with the game it's in. And when they do, they have to heavily stylize it in order to make it fit. Final Fantasy is ever evolving and things will always be different, even if there is some similarities from past games or songs are reused for a new game. If you're going to complain about a missing song, you're following the wrong series. dude it's not a huge complain it's a small nitpick so please don't get angry on me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NemesisSP 160 Posted January 14, 2014 Why not? It's a small nitpick that you're wasting our time over. Yes, we get it, you're not happy with the way the series has been handled over the past few years and that's fine, you are entitled to it, but please, we don't need to hear about it so much. Some of us actually don't mind the series doing something different, both gameplay and music wise, because that's what the series has always done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tothecikpah 230 Posted January 14, 2014 FF12 didn't have turn-based combat and yet IT HAD THE PRELUDE,THE MAIN FINAL FANTASY THEME AND THE VICTORY FANFARE FOR MISSIONS AND CERTAIN BOSS BATTLES FF Type-0 had the prelude,victory fanfare,and the main theme played somewhere if I'm correct Well,I was wrong about X and XI but I'm sure as hell that 12 used it Uematsu himself wanted to try something new for FFX. The song so far has not appeared in FFII, FFX, and FFXIII. Though the Victory theme that is also a predominent theme in the series stopped at XIII. Uematsu himself wanted to try something new for FFX. The song so far has not appeared in FFII, FFX, and FFXIII. Though the Victory theme that is also a predominent theme in the series stopped at XIII. yes, it's ff2, ff9 and ff13, sorry for the wrong info earlier. I can say that the music of final fantasy changed over the years because of different directors, composers etc. we can't compare it with zelda because it iscreated by the same person (miyamoto-san) since the first game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxClouDxxmoon 901 Posted January 14, 2014 Why not? It's a small nitpick that you're wasting our time over. Yes, we get it, you're not happy with the way the series has been handled over the past few years and that's fine, you are entitled to it, but please, we don't need to hear about it so much. Some of us actually don't mind the series doing something different, both gameplay and music wise, because that's what the series has always done. It is just an on going thing. FFXIII wasn't so much as different for me, but crap. I mean look how different XV will be, and I am sure I will love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NemesisSP 160 Posted January 14, 2014 Well, I liked XIII, but that's not the point. My point is that it's useless to complain about a piece of music not being in a game in the series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 14, 2014 yes, it's ff2, ff9 and ff13, sorry for the wrong info earlier. I can say that the music of final fantasy changed over the years because of different directors, composers etc. we can't compare it with zelda because it iscreated by the same person (miyamoto-san) since the first game. Actually,Eiji Aonuma is the current director of the Zelda series Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites