A question for the ladies part 2

[MasterRoxas13 340]

I think I am going to make this a trilogy lol. So ladies, do you guys think the friend zone exist or do you think It is just something us guys make up when we like a girl that is not attracted to us? let me know what you think.  

Edited January 13, 2014 by MasterRoxas13

[Aang 649]

I'm no lady, so I'm inclined to keep my Avatar knowledge to myself. 

[Shard the Gentleman 2,891]

Well, its certainly exists, but many women think that guys are just being nice to get with them, and not because they're friends, which makes girls unattracted to that said guy, effectively "friendzoning" them. Although that is not every guys intent, many do this... wait, why am I commenting? I'm not a lady.

[MasterRoxas13 340]

anybody can comment, it is just directed towards girls.

Edited January 14, 2014 by MasterRoxas13

[VisitJoan 2,713]

It sounds made up to me.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

See this goes both ways . Either gender can view someone as only a friend despite that said person having romantic feelings towards them . Just because you like someone  romantically doesn't mean they have to feel the same in return .( regardless of gender ).

[Dracozombie 4,554]

It's bullshit.

 

The problem with the "friend zone" is that nice guys, real or fake, assume that kindness is the only thing it takes to get a girl interested in them, and then they get depressed/pissed when it's not enough.  I want a guy to be nice to me, and myself to them, in the same way I expect my car to have comfortable seats.  It's a basic prerequisite, and having comfortable seats has nothing to do with whether or not the car guzzles gas, or if it's too small/big for what I need, or if I can afford to pay for it at all.  So when a guy thinks "But I'm so nice to her!" in response to her disinterest, they're thinking their comfortable seats are somehow enough to carry every other factor involved.  It's not enough.

 

If kindness is the only thing you can give to them, you're gonna have to step up your game because people can find kindness in many other places that has nothing to do with romance (their friends, family, the internet, their dog).

[Aang 649]

Wonderful post.

[Neptune Vasilias 340]

It exists I've been it didn't enjoy so I moved on like 5 minutes after and keep on pimpin :cool:

[Lalalablah 1,538]

I think it does. A guy likes you but you just want to stay friends because you're not interested in a relationship and tada there you have it, the friendzone. Even if a guy does more than just show kindness, he can still be friendzoned IMO. And I don't think it's some endless place where no one can escape either like so many people say it is. And girls can be friendzoned too.

 

I just hate that expression altogether, I think it's overused and also an excuse for males and females to either give up or avoid commitment. But I still think it exists lol

[MasterRoxas13 340]

 Lalalalablah -if the guy tries as hard as he can to get in the friend zone, will he get the girl to like/ love him? 

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Edited January 14, 2014 by MasterRoxas13

[_The Door To Light_ 1,507]

I'm just bothered by the fact that it's become a lame internet running joke.

[MasterRoxas13 340]

Usual jokes on the internet are based off real life experiences.

[Lalalablah 1,538]

Lalalalablah -if the guy tries as hard as he can to get in the friend zone, will he get the girl to like/ love him? .

To get in the friendzone or out of it?Because yes, I think if he tries hard enough there is always a possibility to get the girl to like him. And if he (or she) puts forth a huge amount of effort and the girl or guy still doesn't want a relationship, they're probably missing out. But to each their own you know, sometimes people are better off as just friends. On the other hand some romances sprout from friendship, it just takes a while for the other person to see I'm kinda jumping all over the place with this but you get the idea haha Edited January 14, 2014 by Lalalablah

[Think Pink 1,967]

It's bullshit.

 

The problem with the "friend zone" is that nice guys, real or fake, assume that kindness is the only thing it takes to get a girl interested in them, and then they get depressed/pissed when it's not enough.  I want a guy to be nice to me, and myself to them, in the same way I expect my car to have comfortable seats.  It's a basic prerequisite, and having comfortable seats has nothing to do with whether or not the car guzzles gas, or if it's too small/big for what I need, or if I can afford to pay for it at all.  So when a guy thinks "But I'm so nice to her!" in response to her disinterest, they're thinking their comfortable seats are somehow enough to carry every other factor involved.  It's not enough.

 

If kindness is the only thing you can give to them, you're gonna have to step up your game because people can find kindness in many other places that has nothing to do with romance (their friends, family, the internet, their dog).

dracozombie is completely right

 

the friend zone is basically is bullshit concept that implies women should want to date you if you're nice to them. Not only is that disgustingly sexist and stupid, it also basically demeans women to the point of being objects. It's the same as saying "If I put coins into this machine, it will give me a soda." Women are not objects and you can't stuff a woman full of kindness and automatically expect her to like you in return. The friend zone basically bullies girls into agreeing to a relationship they don't want to enter, shames the ones who don't, and lets men have a victim complex that will probably never go away. I like seriously cannot even put into words how disgusted I am by the idea of a "friend zone". 

[Tigerruss 576]

It's bullshit.

 

The problem with the "friend zone" is that nice guys, real or fake, assume that kindness is the only thing it takes to get a girl interested in them, and then they get depressed/pissed when it's not enough.  I want a guy to be nice to me, and myself to them, in the same way I expect my car to have comfortable seats.  It's a basic prerequisite, and having comfortable seats has nothing to do with whether or not the car guzzles gas, or if it's too small/big for what I need, or if I can afford to pay for it at all.  So when a guy thinks "But I'm so nice to her!" in response to her disinterest, they're thinking their comfortable seats are somehow enough to carry every other factor involved.  It's not enough.

 

If kindness is the only thing you can give to them, you're gonna have to step up your game because people can find kindness in many other places that has nothing to do with romance (their friends, family, the internet, their dog).

"What else is there?" -Prince Derek from the Swan Princess. (sure that was on the topic of beauty but...) Part of my question is are the "nice guys" loving or just nice. Are they willing to sacrifice things for her. If they are loving, they may fall into the trap of not realizing they don't satisfy her needs, and if they truly were loving and realized that...A)They would try to satisfy her needsB)They would let her go find who she needs.There simply no other option unless if they are just being "nice to her".

 

 

I think it does. A guy likes you but you just want to stay friends because you're not interested in a relationship and tada there you have it, the friendzone. Even if a guy does more than just show kindness, he can still be friendzoned IMO. And I don't think it's some endless place where no one can escape either like so many people say it is. And girls can be friendzoned too.I just hate that expression altogether, I think it's overused and also an excuse for males and females to either give up or avoid commitment. But I still think it exists lol

While the expression is both overused and sounds like a discouraging thing, I do think it accurately describes people truly put into a friendzone. I would actually want to statistics on how often it can and cannot be escaped

[MasterRoxas13 340]

Lalalablah- I was asking because me and a couple of my friends was joking around about if a guy tries his hardest to enter the friend zone. the girl would either start liking him or she will fall in love with him.

 

if only I would have know this sooner. My problem was that I was a asshole to girls ( in high school) because I was burnt to many times for being a nice guy ( in middle school). now I am not a asshole but not really a full blown nice guy either ( now in college).

Edited January 14, 2014 by MasterRoxas13

[Lalalablah 1,538]

  While the expression is both overused and sounds like a discouraging thing, I do think it accurately describes people truly put into a friendzone. I would actually want to statistics on how often it can and cannot be escaped

Yeah definitely. As for statistics, who knows I am just going off of personal experiences here

Lalalablah- I was asking because me and a couple of my friends was joking around about if a guy tries his hardest to enter the friend zone. the girl would either start liking him or she will fall in love with him. if only I would have know this sooner. My problem was that I was a asshole to girls ( in high school) because I was burnt to many times for being a nice guy ( in middle school). now I am not a asshole but not really a full blown nice guy either ( now in college).

You know I think that could happen, I wouldn't be surprised if it has already

[Tigerruss 576]

Yeah definitely. As for statistics, who knows I am just going off of personal experiences here 

I know you were getting it off of personal experience, I was more so meaning I would like that knowledge, even though I don't think it could easily be found out.

Edited January 14, 2014 by Tigerruss

[Lalalablah 1,538]

I know you were getting it off of personal experience, I was more so meaning I would like that knowledge, even though I don't think it could easily be found out.

Oh gotcha. And yeah that seems difficult to find out but I agree, I'm curious to know also.

[nanex 4]

Grow some balls and think with your heart thats

Act fast before another guy comes

Use both brain and heart to understand every girl like nice guys

You just gotta be real about it

That's all I gotta say

(I'm a guy trust me from personal experiences lalalabla has a good point too)