the other xehanrots are the foretellers form chi

[Kingdomhe 1,362]

I really like your theory but their is only one problem. The reason why certain keyblades have a  cat-like eye on them is not because of Xehanort or being possessed by him, but due to the wielders relationship to darkness.it is called the "Eye of Darkness".Master Xehanort, Young Xehanort, Vanitas, Terra, and Riku have use darkness and have a strong afflation with it. Good or evil, whoever has a strong relationship to darkness have that eye on their keyblade. if Sora was to wield darkness more he would have it on some of his keyblades as well.  

technically thats not true, it could be xehanort or its a relation with xehanort we can cont MX, YX, or van because they are xehanorts as for terra, riku, and sora its a special case. terra got a keyblade after doing something dark and use dark impulse but later he got possessed by xehanort so it was a indication and for riku it was a indication/he is possessed when he got soul eater before HB it was an indication but in HB ansem possessed him it only until after CO did xehanort leave him. and eyes of darkness wouldn't show up if the person would use the darkness more sora and mickey and the others have a couple of dark keyblades, sora has oblivion, fatal crest, guardian soul, etc. and mickey has kingdom key d and all they use is light attacks, so that clearly making a guess to say that would happen. sora got this one in ddd:

 

so this yet again was a heads up, sora was going to be one but it was stopped. the only people that haven't showed signs of xehanort is the forettellers( and they are light masters and they have it) but with this update it could change.

Edited December 1, 2013 by Keyblade master26

[AntonioKHT 449]

Well YMX never gave up his body - Ansem SoD did that for him and then transferred the power to YMX. As for the vessels that disappeared, it has never been said they were from the past- that's why Nomura said it would make sense to say they were picked up before the others awoke and the conditions to be revived as humans again have been met . . I think some people think they are from the past bc of them using their nobody names- but they forget that those were given by Xemnas as a sigil and as an intended vessel. It  makes sense that all his successful vessels keep their 'nobody' names even after revived as humans in the present.

 

My biggest problem with time travel is that it can be used as a license to do or undo whatever and be like ' oh its time travel " as its excuse.Merlin has his own way of time travel being a great sorcerer and all --- something Xehanort is definitely not . Which is why he never discovered TT till he became heartless. Because they have shown different methods like this it just opens the door for mass confusion for those who already were confused by the rules of Xehanorts travel . There was a reason he laid out all those specific rules to go by. Personally I hate time travel bc I think it ruins the story . 

Now I get it I see, that does make sense. In its own way I guess. But I also thought they were from the past because they had the same appearence as when they were Nobodies, and they dissapered along with the other Xehanorts. And the fact they use the names also doesn't mean anything right? They could use whatever they want, being Nobodies or not lol  And the vessels themselves are probably from the present, but the people who are controlling them are probably versions of Xehanort from the past.

 

And I also don't like time travel... They used it out of nowhere, and the explanations in the game were few, leaving lots of open interpretations. I liked YMX and his battle was one of the coolest in the series, but the concept in the story of the game is weak. It's not like I HATE, they could have done better, or not even used it at all. 

Edited December 1, 2013 by AntonioKHT

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Now I get it I see, that does make sense. In its own way I guess. But I also thought they were from the past because they had the same appearence as when they were Nobodies, and they dissapered along with the other Xehanorts. And the fact they use the names also doesn't mean anything right? They could use whatever they want, being Nobodies or not lol  And the vessels themselves are probably from the present, but the people who are controlling them are probably versions of Xehanort from the past.

 

And I also don't like time travel... They used it out of nowhere, and the explanations in the game were few, leaving lots of open interpretations. I liked YMX and his battle was one of the coolest in the series, but the concept in the story of the game is weak. It's not like I HATE, they could have done better, or not even used it at all. 

 

Well of course they looked the same -they were all wearing org cloaks. Even the revived non- nort apprentices pretty much looked the same except what clothes they were wearing. There were just minute changes like Axel's tear drops. His hair was still longer though than teen Lea and same thing could be attributed to Saix/Isa and Braig/Xigbar. We also don't know how being norted affects appearances through the revival process but it does seem to appear they keep their changes bc the changes weren't due to being nobodies like we thought but bc they were becoming more and more 'norted' so of course they would keep all those changes. These are the quotes I was mentioning before btw

 

Xigbar and Saix appeared as members of Organisation XIII. Did they return as humans like Lea and the others?

Nomura: The conditions of becoming a human have been met, so you’d think they had returned, wouldn’t you? For them to have been with Xehanort and the others, perhaps they were collected after they had become humans and before Lea and the others woke up. You could say the same for the members of Organisation XIII that didn’t appear in this title, however… I’d rather everyone use their imaginations.

 

Also there is this too :

 

Were the 13 Seekers of Darkness, who were meant to be in different times, gathered by transcending time with magic?

Nomura: Just as it says in the story, to transcend time one must ‘first’ discard their form. As a result of the actions of the Brown Robed Figure, they all were in a state where they had gained the power to transcend time. The Brown Robed Figure explains the facts. The thirteen were summoned at the same time, this time thanks to Young Xehanort who borrowed that power. However, apart from Young Xehanort, that does not mean that all the members transcended time.

 

So like I said- they definitely could be from the present but regardless there are also some possibilities that the other hooded figures that we haven't seen yet could be as well.( i think there's a damn good chance some of the last 4 original org members outside of Roxas could be possible norts as well .. So given this we have a version of Xehanort in the present for sure somewhere regardless.

 

As for the time travel being explained - the rules were explained in game but they were much better explained in interviews and since not everyone has access to interviews it leaves them at a disadvantage. Like you,  I rather they not use TT at all or at least done it better.

Edited December 1, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[MasterRoxas13 340]

Never played DDD so I never know about that keyblade. I got the whole eye of darkness from kingdom hearts wiki. It would be pretty cool if your theory is true 

[Kingdomhe 1,362]

Never played DDD so I never know about that keyblade. I got the whole eye of darkness from kingdom hearts wiki. It would be pretty cool if your theory is true 

 

thanks, a decent amount of people skipped it so don't feel bad

[MasterRoxas13 340]

The thing is that I am not trying to skip it I just can't afford it LMAO. when I find another job that's one of the first things I am getting through

 

This is off topic from KH but. If you are a male like me DO NOT get a job where you have to put up a store from scratch unless it is your first job, you would hate it beyond imagination. I quit on my last day( it was a seasonal job).

[AntonioKHT 449]

Well of course they looked the same -they were all wearing org cloaks. Even the revived non- nort apprentices pretty much looked the same except what clothes they were wearing. There were just minute changes like Axel's tear drops. His hair was still longer though than teen Lea and same thing could be attributed to Saix/Isa and Braig/Xigbar. We also don't know how being norted affects appearances through the revival process but it does seem to appear they keep their changes bc the changes weren't due to being nobodies like we thought but bc they were becoming more and more 'norted' so of course they would keep all those changes. These are the quotes I was mentioning before btw

 

Xigbar and Saix appeared as members of Organisation XIII. Did they return as humans like Lea and the others?

Nomura: The conditions of becoming a human have been met, so you’d think they had returned, wouldn’t you? For them to have been with Xehanort and the others, perhaps they were collected after they had become humans and before Lea and the others woke up. You could say the same for the members of Organisation XIII that didn’t appear in this title, however… I’d rather everyone use their imaginations.

 

Also there is this too :

 

Were the 13 Seekers of Darkness, who were meant to be in different times, gathered by transcending time with magic?

Nomura: Just as it says in the story, to transcend time one must ‘first’ discard their form. As a result of the actions of the Brown Robed Figure, they all were in a state where they had gained the power to transcend time. The Brown Robed Figure explains the facts. The thirteen were summoned at the same time, this time thanks to Young Xehanort who borrowed that power. However, apart from Young Xehanort, that does not mean that all the members transcended time.

 

So like I said- they definitely could be from the present but regardless there are also some possibilities that the other hooded figures that we haven't seen yet could be as well.( i think there's a damn good chance some of the last 4 original org members outside of Roxas could be possible norts as well .. So given this we have a version of Xehanort in the present for sure somewhere regardless.

 

As for the time travel being explained - the rules were explained in game but they were much better explained in interviews and since not everyone has access to interviews it leaves them at a disadvantage. Like you,  I rather they not use TT at all or at least done it better.

lol I just meant they should have differences between Somebodies and Nobodies, because only Axel had the tears. So there's no confusion. 

 

And I guess only you can really talk about Time Travel, no only really understands what's going on around here. I bet even Nomura is confused himself

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

lol I just meant they should have differences between Somebodies and Nobodies, because only Axel had the tears. So there's no confusion. 

 

And I guess only you can really talk about Time Travel, no only really understands what's going on around here. I bet even Nomura is confused himself

 

I think Nomura just likes to make some things either confusing or mysterious like when he was talking about the revived org members. Plus we don't know if certain changes were due to being a nort or bc they were nobodies. ( except Axel's tear drops) Nomura isn't exactly consistant I bet Nomura doesn't know what hes doing half the time so I agree

Edited December 3, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Mysterious Figure 353]

Dammit I gotta play this!

Where are you localized version!? 

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Dammit I gotta play this!

Where are you localized version!? 

Non-existant. And there are no plans for one either.

 

OKAY! a few thingsEye of Darkness: All those who bear the Eye of Darkness are either incarnations of Xehanort, or those possessed by him. Not true. Despite the fact that he has yellow eyes, we have no evidence that Vanitas was ever possessed by Xehanort. He was created by him yes, but we have no reason to believe he was ever possessed. Furthermore, Terra got the Darkgnaw and Chaos Ripper Keychains before he was possessed my MX. The Eye of Darkness has been seen to be used by those who have Dark powers. The Oblivion, while a dark elemental Keychain, and the Kingdom Key D, while a Keyblade from the RoD, are wielded by people who use the powers of Light, hence the absence of the EoD. We know very little of the Foretellers powers so it is fully possible that, while they claim they want to protect the light,they are actually agents of Darkness. in fact each one says the same thing to the player "beware others who claim to seek to protect the light, as some merely want to keep to for themselves" So it's is possible that all the Foretellers was to keep the light for themselves, which, according to  Kairi's Grandmother's fairy tale, is exactly what caused the darkness to be born in the first place.

Time Travel: You can either jump to the future or the past but once go get there you cannot go in the other direction, The BRF traveled to the past to give YX the power, but after that he had to wait 70 years on the DI for Riku to open the door.The following is merely conjecture.However, could be that if you have a body, the time travel is only temporary, hence why the True Organization XIII had to return to their respective times after a while, The only one of this group who might be immune is Ansem as he is a heartless. thought, since he does have physical form after possessing Riku, he may be bound by the this rule just like the others. This then would merely bend, not break, the rule of needing to give up your body to travel through time.

Edited December 4, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Kingdomhe 1,362]

Non-existant. And there are no plans for one either.

 

OKAY! a few things

Eye of Darkness: All those who bear the Eye of Darkness are either incarnations of Xehanort, or those possessed by him. Not true. Despite the fact that he has yellow eyes, we have no evidence that Vanitas was ever possessed by Xehanort. He was created by him yes, but we have no reason to believe he was ever possessed. Furthermore, Terra got the Darkgnaw and Chaos Ripper Keychains before he was possessed my MX. The Eye of Darkness has been seen to be used by those who have Dark powers. The Oblivion, while a dark elemental Keychain, and the Kingdom Key D, while a Keyblade from the RoD, are wielded by people who use the powers of Light, hence the absence of the EoD. We know very little of the Foretellers powers so it is fully possible that, while they claim they want to protect the light,they are actually agents of Darkness. in fact each one says the same thing to the player "beware others who claim to seek to protect the light, as some merely want to keep to for themselves" So it's is possible that all the Foretellers was to keep the light for themselves, which, according to  Kairi's Grandmother's fairy tale, is exactly what caused the darkness to be born in the first place.

Time Travel: You can either jump to the future or the past but once go get there you cannot go in the other direction, The BRF traveled to the past to give YX the power, but after that he had to wait 70 years on the DI for Riku to open the door.

The following is merely conjecture.

However, could be that if you have a body, the time travel is only temporary, hence why the True Organization XIII had to return to their respective times after a while, The only one of this group who might be immune is Ansem as he is a heartless. thought, since he does have physical form after possessing Riku, he may be bound by the this rule just like the others. This then would merely bend, not break, the rule of needing to give up your body to travel through time.

 

this is for the EoD, i'm not that invested in the TT:

 

the EoD could be xehanort or its a relation with xehanort/indications/he will be possessed, terra got chaos ripper after doing something dark and use dark impulse but later he got possessed by xehanort so it was a indication, sora has one:

 

yet another indication, sora was going to be possessed by him but was stopped. as for van, in xehanorts reports he says he found a boy for a vessel being ven so he was going to possess him but he was to weak so he made van and he could have carried out the plan still and technically thats the xehanort that was told by the future xehanort what to do, so he probably told him to possess 13 people and the first one could have been van but that still a guess, riku got that bodysuit when he was possessed by him and van has it to so it could be that its another trademark like the eyes and his moves are very similar to riku's in the suit, and in 3D we still don't know if that was van but he was next to YX which could mean he brought him back for the past to the present like ansem and xemnas so that means he is a xehanort but theses are all still kind of guesses and stuff so still kind of take them lightly a little but there is a lot of indication for him being one though, but the EoD is on the keyblade because he has a relation with xehanort(that the rules in this theory)

[Emily Murphy 28]

With Nomura saying that KHx is going to lead into the main story this could be what he means.

[SuperSmashDrake 48]

What if the Foretellers traveled through time and interacted with Xehanort? What if they are the ones who put the interest of the Keyblade War into Xehanort. He saw the power they had as Keyblade wielders, including the ability to travel time, something he probably wasn't exposed to by Eraqus or their master, and he wanted it.

 

This could also set up what happens after the Xehanort Saga, after defeating Xehanort and the Foretellers, Sora and company have to deal with threats from the past who can travel through time.

[『R』 570]

That could be true....

[NO_HEART_XIII 312]

You had me, then I read the comments. This is an awesome theory & I kinda wish it were true. I suppose it could be somehow, but it seems to have been disproved.

1.Master Xehanort

2.Young Xehanort

3.Ansem

4.Xemnas

5.Xigbar

6.Saïx

7.Terranort

8-12.Fortellers

13.Vanitas

It'd be perfect! Who the other seekers of darkness are is like the biggest question & I want some damn answers!