WHO was speaking in Sora's dream at the start of the game?

[juma086 263]

I know Nomura said that it was Mickey, but a friend of mine is telling me "It's inconsistent" "Writer's makes mistakes" "Mickey isn't a telepath" "It makes more sense to be Ventus" etc. When did Nomura say this? It might've been retconned.

 

I need everyone else's view on this.

[Shulk 8,623]

I'd thought of it as being Ven, he makes more sense than Mickey.

[Columned-Munny 274]

If he said it's Mickey then it's Mickey, though I prefer the delusion that it's Ventus. 

 

Waaaaay back before Eraqus had been revealed but after we knew about TAV, I had a theory that the voice was 'the master who trained the old Keyblade wielders before Sora', and that it was guiding him to be the new Keyblade Master. Completely unsubstantiated, but appealing enough.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

I never really knew for sure. I mean, I know that Nomura said that it was Mickey (or "supposed" to be Mickey), but to be fair, that was all the way back in the first Kingdom Hearts Ultimania review. Things have changed, characters have been added, and plot holes have spewed all over the place. Mickey as the voice may have made sense back then, but now when I look at everything else that voice has been used in, or even just in Kingdom Hearts I again, I find that Mickey's voice feels very out of place with the eerie setting of the Station of Awakening. It worked with Riku's conversation with him in the Realm of Darkness, but nowhere else.

 

I always imagined it to be some sort of deep voice, like the kind you would expect to hear from an epic movie trailer. But as time went on, I found that Ventus's voice makes the MOST amount of sense. He's in Sora's heart already, so far the only times we are in the Station are when it's Sora or a character related to Sora, and Sora's voice was what Ven heard in his Station, so why couldn't it be vise-versa? Eraques I suppose could also be a candidate, but he doesn't necessarily have a connection to Sora, he would most likely be what Terra would hear in his Station.

 

Either way, Nomura has never really mentioned it again, but if someone were to ask him that question again, I wouldn't be surprised if he changed his answer. Ven just makes the most sense. Sorry Mickey, at least you can still act as Riku's Yoda, rather than Sora's Obi-Wan.

[RoxSox 3,593]

I think at the start, and even now, it is meant to be Mickey. But I don't buy into that. At the very least, my head canon is that it's Ventus, because it makes no goddamn sense for it to be Mickey and a whole ton of sense for it to be Ventus.

 

This is one thing where I just ignore Nomura's word on the matter.

[Reyn 1,755]

Even though Nomura's word is law for the most part, i dont believe it this time. That was back in 2002 when the series STARTED AND WAS NOT EXPECTED TO SPAWN 6 SEQUELS AND A PREQUEL. Nomura added so many characters and plot holes, im sure if he was asked that now, he would say it was Ven. It makes no sense for it to be Mickey but it makes so much sense for it to be Ventus. Mickey did that with Riku in the ROD since Riku was a heart so he couldve talked to them through their hearts. But Mickey was in the RoD when Sora went into the deep dive, so im sure it wasnt mickey.

 

Ven on the other hand, was already inside Sora and since he's the reason Riku's original keyblade chose Sora, since Sora had the heart of a keyblade wielder aswell as being pure enough to wield it.(Before anyone says anything, i know sora has his own keyblade now due to earning it in hollow bastion, but THE ORIGINAL REASON IT CHOSE SORA IN THE FIRST PLACE besides Riku succumbing to darkness, was because he had the heart of a keyblade wielder inside him).

[xxClouDxxmoon 901]

It was Kingdom Hearts.

[TheOriginalBob 110]

I always thought it was Mickey. This is used in the intro tutorial in Re:Coded when Mickey is guiding data Sora through the station of awakening. It's kind of a throwback to that.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

  On 10/26/2013 at 5:53 AM, spiderfreak1011 said:

Even though Nomura's word is law for the most part, i dont believe it this time. That was back in 2002 when the series STARTED AND WAS NOT EXPECTED TO SPAWN 6 SEQUELS AND A PREQUEL. Nomura added so many characters and plot holes, im sure if he was asked that now, he would say it was Ven. It makes no sense for it to be Mickey but it makes so much sense for it to be Ventus. Mickey did that with Riku in the ROD since Riku was a heart so he couldve talked to them through their hearts. But Mickey was in the RoD when Sora went into the deep dive, so im sure it wasnt mickey.

 

Ven on the other hand, was already inside Sora and since he's the reason Riku's original keyblade chose Sora, since Sora had the heart of a keyblade wielder aswell as being pure enough to wield it.(Before anyone says anything, i know sora has his own keyblade now due to earning it in hollow bastion, but THE ORIGINAL REASON IT CHOSE SORA IN THE FIRST PLACE besides Riku succumbing to darkness, was because he had the heart of a keyblade wielder inside him).

 

 

First off,  if you think about this, it does make sense it was Mickey bc Ven simply  DID NOT EXIST when KH1 came out . It wasn't even a sure thing there would be a sequel so whatever Nomura said was the actual answer- Mickey as stated in the KH1 Ultimania. I can see why people feel it makes more sense to be Ven  but unless Nomura actually does decide to retcon this Mickey is the canon answer. Secondly, Ven ISN"T the reason Sora wields which Nomura already confirmed and said that Sora was always destined to wield and that Ven only gives him the ability to dual wield. Again, how the heck do you think he was able to use KK in KH1 from Riku when Ventus wasn't even thought of yet?

[Reyn 1,755]

  On 10/26/2013 at 3:27 PM, Flaming Lea said:

First off,  if you think about this, it does make sense it was Mickey bc Ven simply  DID NOT EXIST when KH1 came out . It wasn't even a sure thing there would be a sequel so whatever Nomura said was the actual answer- Mickey as stated in the KH1 Ultimania. I can see why people feel it makes more sense to be Ven  but unless Nomura actually does decide to retcon this Mickey is the canon answer. Secondly, Ven ISN"T the reason Sora wields which Nomura already confirmed and said that Sora was always destined to wield and that Ven only gives him the ability to dual wield. Again, how the heck do you think he was able to use KK in KH1 from Riku when Ventus wasn't even thought of yet?

Well, Nomura has made plot holes all over the place and added so many characters and explanations with the games that are currently out. Im sure if he was asked that question now, he'd change his answer and say it was Ven. I mean, technically MASTER XEHANORT did not exist when KH1 was released, but that doesnt change the fact that he was the reason for Ansem and Xemnas's existance. And the plan with the org. members being norted didnt technically exist in KH2, but according to canon, it still was happening during KH2 anyway. The plan of YX bringing Ansem and Xemnas to the future didnt exist during KH1 and KH2's release but it STILL HAPPENED.

 

If Nomura hadn't made BBS, then it would still be a legitimate answer taht mickey was talking to Sora, but with all the explanations BBS shows IT CHANGES EVERYTHING. Thats why I and alot of members on here dont take Nomura's words at face value for this specific explanation.

[Tigerruss 576]

Guys guys guys, quite obviously it was THE NARRATOR. 0_0 What, you haven't heard a narrator in other places of KH? Well, of course not because he spoke in text! (and he is too busy repeating what everyone is saying to have more of his own lines)But in reality it is Mickey because there hasn't been a retcon. Even if it doesn't make sense if I writer said something happened such and such way by such and such person it becomes truth. Sure the writer can make mistakes and create things that don't make sense. But to say that the writer is mistaken for what DID happen is like modifying a painting to suit your tastes. I am saying yes a writer can make mistakes, but you can't "correct" those "mistakes" and call it the same whole.Though I honestly would rather have had the source of the voice not be revealed. Maybe I would have liked it revealed at some point in the future, but sometimes it is good to have unsolved mysteries.

Edited October 26, 2013 by Tigerruss

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

  On 10/26/2013 at 7:34 PM, spiderfreak1011 said:

Well, Nomura has made plot holes all over the place and added so many characters and explanations with the games that are currently out. Im sure if he was asked that question now, he'd change his answer and say it was Ven. I mean, technically MASTER XEHANORT did not exist when KH1 was released, but that doesnt change the fact that he was the reason for Ansem and Xemnas's existance. And the plan with the org. members being norted didnt technically exist in KH2, but according to canon, it still was happening during KH2 anyway. The plan of YX bringing Ansem and Xemnas to the future didnt exist during KH1 and KH2's release but it STILL HAPPENED.

 

If Nomura hadn't made BBS, then it would still be a legitimate answer taht mickey was talking to Sora, but with all the explanations BBS shows IT CHANGES EVERYTHING. Thats why I and alot of members on here dont take Nomura's words at face value for this specific explanation.

 But thats the thing - those were all changes/retcons made by Nomura- therefore its canon . Since Nomura hasn't retconned or changed his answer than it stands as the canon answer .

  On 10/26/2013 at 7:48 PM, Tigerruss said:

Guys guys guys, quite obviously it was THE NARRATOR. 0_0 What, you haven't heard a narrator in other places of KH? Well, of course not because he spoke in text! (and he is too busy repeating what everyone is saying to have more of his own lines)But in reality it is Mickey because there hasn't been a retcon. Even if it doesn't make sense if I writer said something happened such and such way by such and such person it becomes truth. Sure the writer can make mistakes and create things that don't make sense. But to say that the writer is mistaken for what DID happen is like modifying a painting to suit your tastes. I am saying yes a writer can make mistakes, but you can't "correct" those "mistakes" and call it the same whole.Though I honestly would rather have had the source of the voice not be revealed. Maybe I would have liked it revealed at some point in the future, but sometimes it is good to have unsolved mysteries.

 

Agreed!!

[Kaweebo 3,617]

I never really expected it to have a story reason at all. It's just the in-game tutorial. 

 

To be honest, though, ever since beating Kingdom Hearts, I've always heard Ansem's voice when playing it. Somehow it just fits to me. I don't think Ventus and Mickey Mouse would give me the same sense of ominous that Ansem would. Like he's planning everything while in the guise of a teacher. But at certain parts like when you press 'Attack' for the first time, and the 'voice' says "All right!" I can hear either Ven or Mickey. I've resigned to the fact that it's just a voice Sora can somehow hear in his dreams that isn't connected to any character.

Edited October 27, 2013 by Kaweebo

[Mysterious Figure 353]

I always though it was the princesses of pure heart o_o