atheist123 583 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I've recently been thinking about how the threat posed by Xehanort will end. The way I believe this will happen is that Young Xehanort will eventually become good, possibly even a Light, near the end of KH3. Young Xehanort sees how evil his future self becomes, and the destruction he has caused, and vows to never turn into him. He helps Sora and co. defeat his evil incarnations and returns to his past, where his inner-Light indirectly sabotages Master Xehanort's plans before they occur...It's either that or his heart gets sealed away in a Keyblade or something. Edited October 21, 2013 by atheist123 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varnish 319 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I believe that what you have said is impossible... The fact that Young Xehanort was brought forward in time and saw the events of Kingdom Hearts DDD before returning to his own time is what made him take all of his actions as Master Xehanort in the first place, even if he was not physically aware that he had retained the memories of that time. The reason for why everything that Master Xehanort has done has happened is because of Young Xehanort travelling into the future. It was inevitable. I honestly cannot say what would happen to fully remove the threat of Master Xehanort and his other incarnations... Because there is no real concept of death in Kingdom Hearts, I do not think that he will ever properly disappear. Edited October 21, 2013 by Varnish 1 LeYenrz reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted October 21, 2013 I believe that what you have said is impossible... The fact that Young Xehanort was brought forward in time and saw the events of Kingdom Hearts DDD before returning to his own time is what made him take all of his actions as Master Xehanort in the first place, even if he was not physically aware that he had retained the memories of that time. The reason for why everything that Master Xehanort has done has happened is because of Young Xehanort travelling into the future. It was inevitable. I honestly cannot say what would happen to fully remove the threat of Master Xehanort and his other incarnations... Because there is no real concept of death in Kingdom Hearts, I do not think that he will ever properly disappear. Anything can happen. Something might happen during the final battle between the 13 Darknesses and 7 Lights which changes the Young Xehanort's heart. His first visit into the present might set him on his path towards achieving MX's plan, but during his second visit (if he does end up becoming a Darkness) he might experience things which make him reconsider. He could then go back with different subconscious memories which make him sabotage his own plans, making a stable time loop in which all incarnations of Xehanort will ultimately fail, because of the Light that was imprinted on Young Xehanort from his interactions with Sora and co. No-one is beyond redemption in the KH series and I believe ultimately Xehanort will be saved. 1 Varnish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZOBLIVION 13 Posted October 21, 2013 Kingdom Hearts will turn against Xehanort after an epic battle just as he had reached it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) A few other org 13 members will be already destroyed. Everyone lift their keyblade to Kingdom Hearts and makes Xehanort good. - The End - Edited October 21, 2013 by KH4Real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted October 22, 2013 They drop a piano on his head. 3 atheist123, Zola and Xiro reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zola 3,038 Posted October 22, 2013 Kingdom Hearts is light Poof 6 Kittenz, Dave, Jilly Shears and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neptune Vasilias 340 Posted October 23, 2013 Goofy hits him over the head with his shield then Mickey and Donald perform Super-Stopga while every character gangs up on Xehanort and curve stomp him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted October 23, 2013 I seriously hope it's not a 'WE MADE HIM GOOD AGAIN' ending. I'm not one to think that bad people are without repentance and a second chance, but I feel that would be ridiculous in this case. Xehanort needs to die forever in some way, shape, or form. 1 Reyn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted October 23, 2013 I seriously hope it's not a 'WE MADE HIM GOOD AGAIN' ending. I'm not one to think that bad people are without repentance and a second chance, but I feel that would be ridiculous in this case. Xehanort needs to die forever in some way, shape, or form. He is somehow possesed by the darkness. You mean like Voldemort.. Not that original huh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted October 23, 2013 I seriously hope it's not a 'WE MADE HIM GOOD AGAIN' ending. I'm not one to think that bad people are without repentance and a second chance, but I feel that would be ridiculous in this case. Xehanort needs to die forever in some way, shape, or form. Does death even exist in Kingdom Hearts? It's very difficult to imagine how Xehanort can "die" since he is so intimately linked to Terra, Riku, Isa, Braig, etc without them dying too. Maybe in desperation Xehanort has to absorb all of his heart's fragments back into himself because of some betrayal in Organisation 13 (Saix won't stay evil forever, Lea will eventually save his friend... Even you could probably agree on that) then a traditional "death" could work... Young Xehanort turning good could cause a chain reaction which eventually turns his other incarnations good. I agree that Master Xehanort, Xemnas, and Ansem SoD are beyond redemption but Young Xehanort will likely be saved. Perhaps all the other Darknesses will be killed/reverted to their Somebodies, and Young Xehanort will be transported to the present where he has a chance of living a normal life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Does death even exist in Kingdom Hearts? I'm assuming that before the Heartless came and became the #1 cause of death in that universe, it was by natural occurences. You only turn into a Heartless/Nobody by being overtaken by the Darkness and losing your heart. It's never been confirmed if there's a way to die while retaining your heart, just having it die along with you, but I'd imagine it's possible like in real life. It's just so rare now that the Heartless have been consuming worlds. I mean people grow old, obviously, so why wouldn't they die? Edited October 23, 2013 by Kaweebo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted October 23, 2013 I'm assuming that before the Heartless came and became the #1 cause of death in that universe, it was by natural occurences. You only turn into a Heartless/Nobody by being overtaken by the Darkness and losing your heart. It's never been confirmed if there's a way to die while retaining your heart, just having it die along with you, but I'd imagine it's possible like in real life. It's just so rare now that the Heartless have been consuming worlds. I mean people grow old, obviously, so why wouldn't they die? I always just imagined people's hearts went to Kingdom Hearts when they died, or fused with their World's Heart. Or reincarnation. In KH the body is just a vessel for your heart, but once you "die" your heart is probably just recycled into a new heart, having been cleansed of all memories etc. Xehanort was afraid of dying so I guess it must exist... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted October 23, 2013 I always just imagined people's hearts went to Kingdom Hearts when they died, or fused with their World's Heart. Or reincarnation. In KH the body is just a vessel for your heart, but once you "die" your heart is probably just recycled into a new heart, having been cleansed of all memories etc. Xehanort was afraid of dying so I guess it must exist... Well, the logistics are debatable, but yeah, death of individual people is very real. That much has to be true. 1 atheist123 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Well, the logistics are debatable, but yeah, death of individual people is very real. That much has to be true. As long as they make it that Xehanort can't put his heart into inanimate objects I think that he should be able to die xDMaybe Sora and co. will lock Xehanort's heart into his original body so he can't possess anyone else. Then Xehanort has to come to terms with the fact that he will die an old man. Get some feels going. Edited October 23, 2013 by atheist123 1 Kaweebo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted October 23, 2013 As long as they make it that Xehanort can't put his heart into inanimate objects I think that he should be able to die xDMaybe Sora and co. will lock Xehanort's heart into his original body so he can't possess anyone else. Then Xehanort has to come to terms with the fact that he will die an old man. Get some feels going. That'd actually be very interesting, come to think of it. Not necessarily a 'We made him good again' ending, but it doesn't have to go down the tired path of the bad guy dying. He'd get his comeuppance, certainly, but it'd involve him having to deal with the fact that he will never be all-knowing and his dreams and desires of a universe reshaped in his dark image will never come to fruition. I love the energy Master Xehanort exudes, it's why he's a great villain, in my opinion. He LOVES being evil, and to see him fall from grace, not necessarily by dying, would be spectacular. That's brilliant. 1 atheist123 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceriraye 485 Posted October 23, 2013 sora pushing him off a cliff and he turns into dust on the fall down 3 Handsome_the_Wise, KH4Real and atheist123 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connected 978 Posted October 24, 2013 Sora has all the power of the world but still spare Xehanort and take away his power and lock him up for good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeYenrz 276 Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Anything can happen. Something might happen during the final battle between the 13 Darknesses and 7 Lights which changes the Young Xehanort's heart. His first visit into the present might set him on his path towards achieving MX's plan, but during his second visit (if he does end up becoming a Darkness) he might experience things which make him reconsider. He could then go back with different subconscious memories which make him sabotage his own plans, making a stable time loop in which all incarnations of Xehanort will ultimately fail, because of the Light that was imprinted on Young Xehanort from his interactions with Sora and co. No-one is beyond redemption in the KH series and I believe ultimately Xehanort will be saved. Imagine full scale what would happen if what you said really occurred. If YX said that he would not be bad like MX is now, then guess what would happen? That would mean that there would be an elimination of a lot of characters. If that happened, all of Organization XIII would have never existed, Roxas and Xion wouldn't exist at all either. The fans would scream(including me) and ragequit because Roxas is gone, Demyx is gone, and Mansex is gone. And I do not think that any storywriter or game director would take character elimination to that kind of a large scale...unless you're Suzanne Collins and here's one more factor. YX does not see his future self as evil. Even I consider MX to be genius. And not to mention that MX is just trying to create a Utopia where Darkness and Light would be equal(well i think that's what he's doing). But basically he's trying to make another Kingdom hearts that would make a perfect world and he is making COPIES of himselves so he can enforce his will upon a large scale. YX admires MX very much. And it takes a lot to stop admiring someone. As long as they make it that Xehanort can't put his heart into inanimate objects I think that he should be able to die xDMaybe Sora and co. will lock Xehanort's heart into his original body so he can't possess anyone else. Then Xehanort has to come to terms with the fact that he will die an old man. Get some feels going. why does this remind me or Avatar The Last Airbender's Ending? Edited October 24, 2013 by khdayskh1314 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted October 24, 2013 Imagine full scale what would happen if what you said really occurred. If YX said that he would not be bad like MX is now, then guess what would happen? That would mean that there would be an elimination of a lot of characters. If that happened, all of Organization XIII would have never existed, Roxas and Xion wouldn't exist at all either. The fans would scream(including me) and ragequit because Roxas is gone, Demyx is gone, and Mansex is gone. And I do not think that any storywriter or game director would take character elimination to that kind of a large scale...unless you're Suzanne Collins Well, time travelling in the KH Universe is complicated. In KH2's Timeless River people can influence the past but in that world it wasn't instantaneous: Sora still had enough time to prevent the Cornerstone being destroyed, even though as soon as Pete decided to destroy the cornerstone it should have been destroyed. In this instance, the Heartless do not invade the castle until Pete goes through the portal, and the Cornerstone only gets corrupted by darkness and doesn't disappear. Possibly when Young Xehanort turns good the consequences of this do not affect the past and only the future, like the Timeless River time travelling. I'm unsure on how death of time travelling beings is handled in KH... Do they simply fade back into their original time, or do they die for good, causing a paradox? Young Xehanort turning good would be similar to him "dying" so it could cause past incarnations to "die" or it could cause him to fade into the past unaffected or only affect the future events of the Xehanort in Sora's time frame. and here's one more factor. YX does not see his future self as evil. Even I consider MX to be genius. And not to mention that MX is just trying to create a Utopia where Darkness and Light would be equal(well i think that's what he's doing). But basically he's trying to make another Kingdom hearts that would make a perfect world and he is making COPIES of himselves so he can enforce his will upon a large scale. YX admires MX very much. And it takes a lot to stop admiring someone. That is true. I just feel that Young Xehanort is the least corrupted, so he would be the most likely direct incarnation of Xehanort to rebel (Saix would probably be the first to turn, though). He has travelled through time alot, though, so he's probably been corrupted by the realm of darkness so much that he is just as insane as MX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted October 25, 2013 Sora has all the power of the world but still spare Xehanort and take away his power and lock him up for good = Avatar . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites