Riku and Vanitas theory

[Emily Murphy 28]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN8QeaiL3_A 

So I'm watching this and it seems far fetched at first but it actually makes some sense. What do you guys think of this? I think it's likely but I'm not sure if it'll actually happen.

 

 

[Varnish 319]

That seems quite plausible. It is very insightful.

Ventus' heart is not the reason for why Sora can wield the Keyblade, though.

[Emily Murphy 28]

That seems quite plausible. It is very insightful.

Ventus' heart is not the reason for why Sora can wield the Keyblade, though.

Yeah, I hate when people say that. 

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Interesting, but with the last part about why we saw Vanitas next to Young Xehanort, he clearly did not read the interview. Nomura said that the reason we saw Vanitas was because Ventus's heart was reacting to Young Xehanort's presence. He recognized him as Vanitas's master.

 

Ventus' heart is not the reason for why Sora can wield the Keyblade, though.

Then how did Sora obtain the keyblade? Aqua didn't give it to him and Terra gave his to Riku. Wouldn't it make sense that Ventus gave Sora that power to show that he is still living and he still exists?

[Emily Murphy 28]

Interesting, but with the last part about why we saw Vanitas next to Young Xehanort, he clearly did not read the interview. Nomura said that the reason we saw Vanitas was because Ventus's heart was reacting to Young Xehanort's presence. He recognized him as Vanitas's master.

 

Then how did Sora obtain the keyblade? Aqua didn't give it to him and Terra gave his to Riku. Wouldn't it make sense that Ventus gave Sora that power to show that he is still living and he still exists?

Riku was supposed to have the keyblade but since he gave into darkness the keyblade went to Sora instead.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Riku was supposed to have the keyblade but since he gave into darkness the keyblade went to Sora instead.

Ok, I see. You'd think that Ventus would contribute and give Sora the keyblade.

[awesomeinmyworld 268]

I don't think there is a connection between Riku and Vanitas. Most theories I've heard go off of their similar outfits.

Ok, I see. You'd think that Ventus would contribute and give Sora the keyblade.

I think that Ven gave Sora the ability, but just having the ability doesn't mean you'll actually wield it. When Riku gave into the darkness, Sora recieved the Keyblade. When it was taken away by Riku, Sora's ties to other people, and Riku's complete fall to darkness, facilitated to its return to Sora.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I know it's been said in interviews multiple times that this isn't the case, but maybe Ven was the reason Sora could wield the Keyblade at first. I does make sense. If Sora's heart was strong enough to wield the Keyblade on his own, Riku wouldn't have been able to take it in the first place. Maybe it was only after the confrontation in Hollow Bastion that Soras own heart was strong enough and now that it is, he won't loose the ability to wield in when Vens heart returns. I used to be in the other camp but playing 1.5 has made me re-think some things.

Edited October 6, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Keyblader 325]

Blegh, I just have to say...that voice is so annoying x-x

 

Anyways, to the matter at hand.  I've always been under the influence that the reason Sora was able to attain the Keyblade in the beginning of KH1, Ventus's sleeping heart had some effect upon that.  Now, if it's stated in the contrary in an interview, then I suppose that's that.  It still seems like it would be a likely factor as to how Sora received the Keyblade to begin with.  But, of course, when Sora began to understand where his power came from in HB, the Keyblade officially became Sora's, no longer relying on Ventus's place within Sora.  A convenient time at that, as not long after truly owning the Keyblade, Ventus's heart left Sora to join his Nobody Roxas (I believe.  As the heart shapes the vessel, Ventus's heart may have influenced Roxas's appearance as well as his inherent ability to hold emotions. Though, the original "Nobodies don't have hearts" concept was dashed in KH3D, the theory is still relevant.).  Though, Ventus's heart may have never even left Sora, and instead simply altered Roxas's appearance through the connection.  Nevertheless, let's get to the real theory.

 

While I do believe this theory is plausible, I think there is also another idea that could be presented (Though it may not be as likely).  We all know that Vanitas and Riku were essentially apprentices to the same individual, or at least some form of him:  Xehanort.  Notice that Xehanort possesses the exact same fighting stance as both Riku and Vanitas.  As that is the case, we can at least assume that either Xehanort trained Vanitas to fight in that way, or it is some subconscious nature of Keyblade wielders of Darkness.  This may apply to Riku, as he isn't seen fighting in this manner until HB.  This leads me to believe that Ansem SoD may have trained him to fight that way, but is merely speculation.

 

This idea also goes straight into their dark outfits.  I'm not extremely certain on this issue, but I have considered the idea that Ansem SoD may have also played a part in Riku's design.  Seeing as SoD must have had some knowledge of Xehanort's initial plans (As he went back in time and informed his younger self of his intent), I imagine the 'costume' could have been something he chose for Riku.  But now to a crucial point:  Why Riku?  As the video speculates, it could have been out of some connection between Riku and Vanitas (Seeing as Vanitas visits DI at one point, he could have very well set up some sort of connection between him and Riku, for whatever reason), but I have another theory that could even explain the first.  Perhaps Riku was seen as a target for Ansem SoD (Or Vanitas, it works with both theories) because of his ties with Terra.  Considering Xehanort's initial choice to use Terra for his new vessel, he may have assumed that anyone Terra chose as a Keyblade wielder may also be as easily manipulated.  Though, in terms of SoD, it may have also been due to Riku's desire to accept the darkness (It is a matter of truth as to why Ansem came to DI in the first place, as stated in the KH1 Ansem Reports if I recall.  I believe he sent Kairi out into the void of the worlds, and Aqua's magic led her to Sora.)

 

Of course, this is all speculation.  I just thought I'd expand on this theory, showing that as of now we don't really know for certain.  Both could be plausible, or hold no merit whatsoever.  (I'm also probably not making a lot of sense with my theory, I dunno x3)

Edited October 6, 2013 by Keyblader

[Jack Weber 7]

I watch this guys videos a lot he has a bunch of good theories 

[Emily Murphy 28]

I watch this guys videos a lot he has a bunch of good theories 

I agree. Some of the theories I can't see happening and when I first seen this I thought it was insane but it actually makes a lot of sense.

[Demyx. 10,064]

That seems quite plausible. It is very insightful.

Ventus' heart is not the reason for why Sora can wield the Keyblade, though.

 

Yeah, I hate when people say that. 

I just posted the quote to the guy that proves it wrong.

[Varnish 319]

I just posted the quote to the guy that proves it wrong.

He did not prove it wrong. He simply went by some implications as proof, but it has not been confirmed.

[Demyx. 10,064]

He did not prove it wrong. He simply went by some implications as proof, but it has not been confirmed.

yes i know. I posted the interview that says he didnt get the ability to wield from ventus. 

[Varnish 319]

yes i know. I posted the interview that says he didnt get the ability to wield from ventus. 

I assume that you are "Little Nugget", then.

Much obliged.

[Demyx. 10,064]

I assume that you are "Little Nugget", then.

Much obliged.

Yes I am.