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Can Namine' use the Keyblade?

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I was watching Dead Fantasy 8 because I was bored, and I always thought it was cool when Kairi turned into Namine' and used the Keyblade. However, it made me think about a serious question: What if Namine' can use the Keyblade? Think about it, she's the nobody of a Keyblade wielder! What do you think? 

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I would think it is possible for her to use a Keyblade considering she is Kairi's Nobody and has a special connection to Sora.

I doubt we've seen the last of her, so it might be interesting to see if she would be able to summon a blade.

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Since Kairi can, Namine should be able to using the same logic as Roxas with Sora .DDD hinted at a possible return of Namine as her own person bc it was confirmed she grew a heart ( Ansem's data could possibly bring her back ) so if she is brought back it's certainly possible the keyblade would choose her as well 

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Theoretically, she most likely can since she's Kairi's Nobody, created from Sora, possibly connected to Ventus, and has a heart of her own.

 

Do I want her to have one, though? No. I want them to make more use of her memory powers. Personally, I think there's a reason we've never seen her with a Keyblade. I don't think she has a strong enough heart to wield one, as people walk all over.

 

But then again... considering how Nomura's handing them out like candy these days, she'll probably get one for better or for worse at some point. I mean, I don't want her to be left out of the fight, but I also don't want her to lose her originality.

 

Though it would be cool if she gained her own Keyblade, whilst living inside Kairi for a while. Then Kai could dual wield, which I think would help her a lot, since she's so new to fighting (until Nami becomes her own person, anyway).

Edited by DenizenofTwilight

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Since Kairi can, Namine should be able to using the same logic as Roxas with Sora .DDD hinted at a possible return of Namine as her own person bc it was confirmed she grew a heart ( Ansem's data could possibly bring her back ) so if she is brought back it's certainly possible the keyblade would choose her as well 

A nobody has no heart. Therefore, Namine dosn't have one. Roxas had a heart because the extra heart that was inside Sora moved over to his nobody. That's why Roxas looks like Ventus and not Sora. For namine to have a heart, Kairi would have had to have another heart resting inside her.

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A nobody has no heart. Therefore, Namine dosn't have one. Roxas had a heart because the extra heart that was inside Sora moved over to his nobody. That's why Roxas looks like Ventus and not Sora. For namine to have a heart, Kairi would have had to have another heart resting inside her.

Did you not play DDD? It's confirmed FACT nobodies can grow hearts and that once the body loses it's heart it will grow a new one under the right circumstances. It's explained pretty well in DDD .Roxas had Ven's heart plus grew his own new heart based off his own memories over time .It's also confirmed ANYTHING can grow a heart even a puppet ( xion ) over time .Kairi doesn't need another heart in her like Sora did in order for her nobody to grow her own eventually. Play DDD.

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Did you not play DDD? It's confirmed FACT nobodies can grow hearts and that once the body loses it's heart it will grow a new one under the right circumstances. It's explained pretty well in DDD .Roxas had Ven's heart plus grew his own new heart based off his own memories over time .It's also confirmed ANYTHING can grow a heart even a puppet ( xion ) over time .Kairi doesn't need another heart in her like Sora did in order for her nobody to grow her own eventually. Play DDD.

 

So Xemnas, being apprentice Xehanorts nobody, why is he unable to wield a Keyblade? It's clearly shown at the beginning of DDD he remembers how wield one before losing his heart.

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Nomura said he prolly could wield one but chose not to for reasons..

 

He'd rather go through lengthy means of creating a puppet made of memories to absorb keyblade wielding abilities off a nobody who can already wield a keyblade to collect hearts...?

 

Makes...sense...?

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He'd rather go through lengthy means of creating a puppet made of memories to absorb keyblade wielding abilities off a nobody who can already wield a keyblade to collect hearts...?

 

Makes...sense...?

 

He had an agenda that he was hiding . He was purposely lying to the whole org about nobodies being able to grow hearts and also the true purpose of the org - to be vessels.Also, blame Nomura if you have issue with since he's the one who writes this crap and he's the one who confirmed Xemnas prolly could but chose not to . xD

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He had an agenda that he was hiding . He was purposely lying to the whole org about nobodies being able to grow hearts and also the true purpose of the org - to be vessels.Also, blame Nomura if you have issue with since he's the one who writes this crap and he's the one who confirmed Xemnas prolly could but chose not to . xD

 

You gotta admit though, it seems majorly long winded just to obtain the Keyblades power, collects hearts and make 13 dark vessels if he could just use the Keyblade himself. It was the whole point of leading Sora to Castle Oblivion, taking in Roxas and creating Xion. All to obtain the keyblades power. Why on earth would he do all that if he had that power to begin with? 

Bad Nomura, write better!

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You gotta admit though, it seems majorly long winded just to obtain the Keyblades power, collects hearts and make 13 dark vessels if he could just use the Keyblade himself. It was the whole point of leading Sora to Castle Oblivion, taking in Roxas and creating Xion. All to obtain the keyblades power. Why on earth would he do all that if he had that power to begin with? 

Bad Nomura, write better!

 

Well,Nomura also writes this shit as he goes too so there are retcons and inconsistantsies if you ask me so I agree with you on that . This says it all :

 

Speaking of the previous titles, about when do you start thinking of the ‘next title’?

Nomura: It’s a gradual process. When Kingdom Hearts was in production, I was considering ideas for Kingdom Hearts II and Chain of Memories. And when those two were in production, I was thinking of ideas for the next three, 358/2 Days, Coded, and Birth by Sleep.

— Were you thinking of KH3D when those 3 titles were in production?

Nomura: KH3D was put together relatively quickly, I was still concepting the story when I brought it to the table.

 

I guess you could also use the excuse that he was really just trying to use them as vessels and not just for the keyblades power .

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Did you not play DDD? It's confirmed FACT nobodies can grow hearts and that once the body loses it's heart it will grow a new one under the right circumstances. It's explained pretty well in DDD .Roxas had Ven's heart plus grew his own new heart based off his own memories over time .It's also confirmed ANYTHING can grow a heart even a puppet ( xion ) over time .Kairi doesn't need another heart in her like Sora did in order for her nobody to grow her own eventually. Play DDD.

Very good points. Indeed I must rewatch some cutscenes in DDD, but one thing that you said dosn't make sense to me. If what you say is indeed true, the heart would characterize the person's personality, correct? The heart wouldn't contain any memories. So if that is the case, when Ventus wakes up, he will have no recollection of being part of Roxas and Terra would not know what Xehanort did to his body. If Ventus's heart goes back to where it belongs, then wouldn't Roxas change look and resemble Sora?

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Very good points. Indeed I must rewatch some cutscenes in DDD, but one thing that you said dosn't make sense to me. If what you say is indeed true, the heart would characterize the person's personality, correct? The heart wouldn't contain any memories. So if that is the case, when Ventus wakes up, he will have no recollection of being part of Roxas and Terra would not know what Xehanort did to his body. If Ventus's heart goes back to where it belongs, then wouldn't Roxas change look and resemble Sora?

 

Ven's heart was sleeping/dormant when it was in Roxas so Roxas didn't have Ven's memories and Terra was a different case altogether bc Terra's heart was merged with Xehanorts as AX.In BBS it showed Terra and MX fighting for control of the body so i'm pretty sure Terra knows what Xehanort did .

 

If Ven's heart goes back to his body it might or might not change Roxas' appearance since he grew his own heart based on his own memories and i think his appearance will be based off how he himself sees himself like how Xion sees herself as the blackhaired Kairi when others saw her in different ways 

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Did you not play DDD? It's confirmed FACT nobodies can grow hearts and that once the body loses it's heart it will grow a new one under the right circumstances. It's explained pretty well in DDD .Roxas had Ven's heart plus grew his own new heart based off his own memories over time .It's also confirmed ANYTHING can grow a heart even a puppet ( xion ) over time .Kairi doesn't need another heart in her like Sora did in order for her nobody to grow her own eventually. Play DDD.

Can data grow a heart?

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Yes and that was confirmed when Data Sora grew a heart and summoned his own keyblade after Maleficent broke the other in Re: Coded

It sounds like almost ANYTHING can grow a heart as long as it got a face and a sentient being. 

Edited by The Rocky Shoe

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Ven's heart was sleeping/dormant when it was in Roxas so Roxas didn't have Ven's memories and Terra was a different case altogether bc Terra's heart was merged with Xehanorts as AX.In BBS it showed Terra and MX fighting for control of the body so i'm pretty sure Terra knows what Xehanort did .

 

If Ven's heart goes back to his body it might or might not change Roxas' appearance since he grew his own heart based on his own memories and i think his appearance will be based off how he himself sees himself like how Xion sees herself as the blackhaired Kairi when others saw her in different ways 

So what do you think Roxas sees himself as?

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Kairis nobody created from sora who has blonde hair because of ventus. All of which are keyblade wielders...

Seems legit

 

But

I don't want her to be one, she probably could and shes her own person, but shes better as a "spiritual mentor" character who watches over the others.

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