Master Xehanort is very old

[_The Door To Light_ 1,507]

He has no age he is eternal

Eternal. Like Xemnas. Puns.

Hurr Hurr.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Think about it, when old Xehanort took full possession of his younger self's body and summoned his Keyblade to fight Riku, that was effectively the Inheritace Ceremony,

Not quite,he already had the Keyblade beforehand,hence why his keyblade isn't the same as Master Xehanort,

 

Besides,he was already a wielder even before time traveling,so I don't think it counts as an inheritence ceremony

 

Otherwise we will get stuck in a hard time loop

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Not quite,he already had the Keyblade beforehand,hence why his keyblade isn't the same as Master Xehanort,

 

Besides,he was already a wielder even before time traveling,so I don't think it counts as an inheritence ceremony

 

Otherwise we will get stuck in a hard time loop

I'm not sure he did, Nomura said it was MX's Keyblade with a different Keychain, not YX's I don't think he was a wielder beforehand. And that'e the whole point of 3D, to set up an unavoidable repetition of events that eventually leads to KH III.

Edited September 25, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I'm not sure he did, Nomura said it was MX's Keyblade with a different Keychain, not YX's I don't think he was a wielder beforehand

Have you obtained the "No Name" Keyblade in BBS from the Mysertious Figure(who turned out to be Young Xehanort BTW)

 

It's the exact same keyblade.

 

Also,Xehanort was a Keyblade Wielder since he was young(probably at his 20's)

 

Otherwise how did anything happened if Xehanort became a keyblade wielder because of his future heartless?

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Have you obtained the "No Name" Keyblade in BBS from the Mysertious Figure(who turned out to be Young Xehanort BTW)

 

It's the exact same keyblade.

 

Also,Xehanort was a Keyblade Wielder since he was young(probably at his 20's)

 

Otherwise how did anything happened if Xehanort became a keyblade wielder because of his future heartless?

No. But I have seen both. (And I know that.)That means nothing.

 

That actually helps my case since YX looked to be about 17 in 3D, younger then when he became a wielder. Much like Riku and Kairi were younger went they went trough the ceremony than when they actually got their own Keyblades.It's called a temporal causality loop. Encountering his heartless brought him to his future self who performed the Inheritance Ceremony when he possessed his younger self which allowed him to leave the island and begin the plans that would eventually lead to him passing on the Keyblade to his younger self.

 

 

See, YX couldn't leave the island without a Keyblade, if he had one before he encountered his future heartless, he would have already left.

Edited September 25, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

No. But I have seen both. (And I know that.)That means nothing.

 

That actually helps my case since YX looked to be about 17 in 3D, younger then when he became a wielder. Much like Riku and Kairi were younger went they went trough the ceremony than when they actually got their own Keyblades.It's called a temporal causality loop. Encountering his heartless brought him to his future self who performed the Inheritance Ceremony when he possessed his younger self which allowed him to leave the island and begin the plans that would eventually lead to him passing on the Keyblade to his younger self.

 

 

See, YX couldn't leave the island without a Keyblade, if he had one before he encountered his future heartless, he would have already left.

Sooo,does that mean Xehanort was never meant to be a Keyblade Wielder???And that there is actually more Xehanort incarnations than the ones we know???

 

So,Ansem SoD,by Time Traveling,created a chain of circumstances that enabled not only one of his incarnations to get a keyblade,but also create multiple incarnations of him to fulfill his goal of seeking Kingdom Hearts.

 

But,doesn't that mean that there are two different Xehanorts worked for Ansem the Wise???

 

Your theory is very interesting and it can be legit,but it still confuses the hell outta me.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Sooo,does that mean Xehanort was never meant to be a Keyblade Wielder???And that there is actually more Xehanort incarnations than the ones we know???

 

So,Ansem SoD,by Time Traveling,created a chain of circumstances that enabled not only one of his incarnations to get a keyblade,but also create multiple incarnations of him to fulfill his goal of seeking Kingdom Hearts.

 

But,doesn't that mean that there are two different Xehanorts worked for Ansem the Wise???

 

Your theory is very interesting and it can be legit,but it still confuses the hell outta me.

It's not that confusing. All you have to do is look at what we know.Before the Heartless attacked the only way to travel between worlds was to use a Keyblade. Xehanort hated being stuck on the island so if he had a Keyblade before he encountered his Heartless, he would have already left.The Inheritance Ceremony is performed when someone whith a strong enough heart touches another wielders Keyblade.Young Xehanort did this when he was possessed by Master Xehanort. 

Putting all this together, it looks like Master Xehanort performed the Inheritance Ceremony on Young Xehanort by possessing him.It doesn't mean that there were two different ones, Apprentice Xehanort was still the older Xehanort in Terras body.

 

 

Heres a timeline of events.

Young Xehanort encounters a hooded figure who offers him a way off the island.YX the goes around collecting the different incarnations of Xehanort scattered throughout time.3D happens. YX is temporarily possessed by Master Xehanort and summons MX's Keyblade, holding that Keyblade performs the Ceremony.YX returns to his time, only subconsciously aware of the events that transpired.A few years later YX summons his Keyblade for the first time and leaves the island.

At some point YX encouters Eraqus and their MasterBbS happens. Master Xehanort possesses TerraApprentice Xehanort (formerly Terra-Xhanort) regains his memories and releases Braig's heart before splitting himself into Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas.Ansem SoD offers Young Xehanort a way off the islandKH and KH2 happen, Ansem SoD and Xemnas are defeated by Sora and Riku allowing MX to reform.3D happens. MX temporarily possesses YX, eventually allowing him to summon his Keyblade for the first time.

 

That's how I see it.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

It's not that confusing. All you have to do is look at what we know.Before the Heartless attacked the only way to travel between worlds was to use a Keyblade. Xehanort hated being stuck on the island so if he had a Keyblade before he encountered his Heartless, he would have already left.The Inheritance Ceremony is performed when someone whith a strong enough heart touches another wielders Keyblade.Young Xehanort did this when he was possessed by Master Xehanort. 

Putting all this together, it looks like Master Xehanort performed the Inheritance Ceremony on Young Xehanort by possessing him.It doesn't mean that there were two different ones, Apprentice Xehanort was still the older Xehanort in Terras body.

 

 

Heres a timeline of events.

Young Xehanort encounters a hooded figure who offers him a way off the island.YX the goes around collecting the different incarnations of Xehanort scattered throughout time.3D happens. YX is temporarily possessed by Master Xehanort and summons MX's Keyblade, holding that Keyblade performs the Ceremony.YX returns to his time, only subconsciously aware of the events that transpired.A few years later YX summons his Keyblade for the first time and leaves the island.

At some point YX encouters Eraqus and their MasterBbS happens. Master Xehanort possesses TerraApprentice Xehanort (formerly Terra-Xhanort) regains his memories and releases Braig's heart before splitting himself into Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas.Ansem SoD offers Young Xehanort a way off the islandKH and KH2 happen, Ansem SoD and Xemnas are defeated by Sora and Riku allowing MX to reform.3D happens. MX temporarily possesses YX, eventually allowing him to summon his Keyblade for the first time.

 

That's how I see it.

But if so,how did the older incarnation of Xehanort managed to obtain a keyblade if he never destined to got one in the past until Xehanort's heartless(the brown hooded figure) contacted him???? That would be a huge time paradox or a huge plothole in itself

 

And the way you explained,it appears to be an endless time loop

Edited September 26, 2013 by Metal Snake

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

But if so,how did the older incarnation of Xehanort managed to obtain a keyblade if he never destined to got one in the past until Xehanort's heartless(the brown hooded figure) contacted him???? That would be a huge time paradox or a huge plothole in itself

 

And the way you explained,it appears to be an endless time loop

And that's the point. MX crated a time loop to ensure his success. It was his final, and greatest, plan.He calls it destiny. And destiny is never left to chance.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

And that's the point. MX crated a time loop to ensure his success. It was his final, and greatest, plan.He calls it destiny. And destiny is never left to chance.

I understand that he intended to create a time loop

 

But that would make it harder to explain how did he got the keyblade in the first place

 

Unless he crafted this time loop to fasten the process for his younger self so he would create a stronger incarnation in another timeline that has mastered the keyblade.....But why is all of this is connected to Sora.....what power does Sora needs to stop such a time loop

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I understand that he intended to create a time loop

 

But that would make it harder to explain how did he got the keyblade in the first place

 

Unless he crafted this time loop to fasten the process for his younger self so he would create a stronger incarnation in another timeline that has mastered the keyblade.....But why is all of this is connected to Sora.....what power does Sora needs to stop such a time loop

Like you said, the loop is endless. So the loop is how he got it in the first place.

 

Sora can't stop it. The loop has already been completed and begun again. Thankfully KH III is outside of that loop.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Isamu_Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Like you said, the loop is endless. So the loop is how he got it in the first place.

 

Sora can't stop it. The loop has already been completed and begun again. Thankfully KH III is outside of that loop.

I mean won't he be able to stop it once he defeats Xehanort

 

or is it all tied to Ansem the Seeker of Darkness,the one who caused the time loop in the first place???

 

So far,Ansem The Seeker of Darkness is the most threatening incarnation of Xehanort and might as well hold the key that allow Sora to finish Xehanort  off once and for all

[RoxSox 3,593]

Eraqus and Xehanort were students to the same master at the same time. At the least they were the same age, at the most there was an age difference between them not unlike the difference between Ventus and Terra. Eraqus looks a bit younger then Xehanort, but he probably just aged better. The corrupting force of Darkness might also have enhanced the age Xehanort appears to be.

 

I think Eraqus looks to be in his mid to late fifties or perhaps his early sixties, and so I put Master Xehanort in the same range... 12 years later however, when he reformed... I don't know whether to think of him as being in his seventies or if he didn't age any further in that time between.

[Anonn0000 3,525]

Only Weedanort is more olde~

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