Roxas

[CROW 115]

Err, well I'm a lazy bum, so I didn't check if there was already a topic about this. (I know there were quite a bunch about the 7 lights and about Roxas in connection to that though, I just don't know if this was ever mentioned). If there was, I apologize for repeating any theory, but I did think of this on my own, since I never read any of these topics thoroughly.

 

So, I watched the KH3D opening just now and I might be just blind, but I never noticed that in the scene where Mickey summons Terra, Aqua, Ven, Goofy and Donald, there is also Roxas who appears. I always took this scene as foreshadowing what might happen in KHIII, and with Roxas added it would be exactly 7 people or more precisely the 7 lights (Goofy and Donald obviously don't count).

 

So could this mean that Roxas actually will have a big role in KH3 and will even be one of the seven lights? Or does this scene mean really nothing?

 

If this is old, just ignore me. It's my fault that I never read topics about this I find it hardly possible that anyone would oversee Roxas in that scene though, but you never know, I just thought maybeee.... I'm the first to notice something for once. lol

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Err, well I'm a lazy bum, so I didn't check if there was already a topic about this. (I know there were quite a bunch about the 7 lights and about Roxas in connection to that though, I just don't know if this was ever mentioned). If there was, I apologize for repeating any theory, but I did think of this on my own, since I never read any of these topics thoroughly.

 

So, I watched the KH3D opening just now and I might be just blind, but I never noticed that in the scene where Mickey summons Terra, Aqua, Ven, Goofy and Donald, there is also Roxas who appears. I always took this scene as foreshadowing what might happen in KHIII, and with Roxas added it would be exactly 7 people or more precisely the 7 lights (Goofy and Donald obviously don't count).

 

So could this mean that Roxas actually will have a big role in KH3 and will even be one of the seven lights? Or does this scene mean really nothing?

 

If this is old, just ignore me. It's my fault that I never read topics about this I find it hardly possible that anyone would oversee Roxas in that scene though, but you never know, I just thought maybeee.... I'm the first to notice something for once. lol

* explods in fanboygasm*

Roxas as one of the Seven Lights....

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Nomura said that the opening isn't canon to who the lights are  . However i do think Roxas will make a return for sure as his own person in KH3 and could still be a possibility for a light as Nomura also said that their identities will surprise us all and also that you don't have to be a wielder to be a light ( making Donald and Goofy possible candidates). Regardless the ending to DDD implies the possible return of Roxas, Xion , and even Namine through Ansem the Wise's hidden data. Sora himself told Roxas he's his own person .The implications are all there.

[CROW 115]

Nomura said that the opening isn't canon to who the lights are  . However i do think Roxas will make a return for sure as his own person in KH3 and could still be a possibility for a light as Nomura also said that their identities will surprise us all and also that you don't have to be a wielder to be a light ( making Donald and Goofy possible candidates). Regardless the ending to DDD implies the possible return of Roxas, Xion , and even Namine through Ansem the Wise's hidden data. Sora himself told Roxas he's his own person .The implications are all there.

Ahh, thank you sensei (i mean it). So it's not canon. I admit, it would've been too easy *nodnod* 

However, I'm actually indifferent when it comes to Roxas returning or not. I was just interested in this particular matter. If there is so much that hints to it though, I'm positive about that as well.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

Ahh, thank you sensei (i mean it). So it's not canon. I admit, it would've been too easy *nodnod* 

However, I'm actually indifferent when it comes to Roxas returning or not. I was just interested in this particular matter. If there is so much that hints to it though, I'm positive about that as well.

Just rewatched the DDD opening: may just be a tease. Doesn't seem to likely, with Ven losing his heart, Aqua off in Darkness, and Terra now Terrahort.

BTW, did anyone ever frigging read the game booklet for BBS? The intro:

" Three friends... one grim fate to which they must all three unknowingly march"

Not much hope for a happy ending there.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Ahh, thank you sensei (i mean it). So it's not canon. I admit, it would've been too easy *nodnod* 

However, I'm actually indifferent when it comes to Roxas returning or not. I was just interested in this particular matter. If there is so much that hints to it though, I'm positive about that as well.

 You are welcome I'm neutral myself on Xion and Roxas returning ( meaning i'm not a fangirl chomping at the bits for their return ), but yeah the implications are all there setting the stage for their return .

 

Just rewatched the DDD opening: may just be a tease. Doesn't seem to likely, with Ven losing his heart, Aqua off in Darkness, and Terra now Terrahort.

BTW, did anyone ever frigging read the game booklet for BBS? The intro:

" Three friends... one grim fate to which they must all three unknowingly march"

Not much hope for a happy ending there.

 That doesn't mean they won't be saved . BBS was a prequel to what happened so of course certain fates were doomed bc they needed to happen to set the stage to the current plot . Blank Points, Re:Coded and DDD all point out they are on the list of who needs saving so their fates aren't permanently sealed at all.

Edited September 20, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

 You are welcome  

 

 That doesn't mean they won't be saved . BBS was a prequel to what happened so of course certain fates were doomed bc they needed to happen to set the stage to the current plot . Blank Points, Re:Coded and DDD all point out they are on the list of who needs saving so their fates aren't permanently sealed at all.

 I'm neutral myself on Xion and Roxas returning ( meaning i'm not a fangirl chomping at the bits for their return ), but yeah the implications are all there setting the stage for their return 

That'd be good: Xion kinda got the short end of the Keyblade on life, and Roxas just got had period.

This kinda needs to be fixed more than Terra and Aqua: I still get chills when I realize Roxas was ONE when he died.

Creepy, Namura, creepy.

[Demyx. 10,064]

Who says Donald and Goofy can't be lights?

[CROW 115]

That'd be good: Xion kinda got the short end of the Keyblade on life, and Roxas just got had period.

This kinda needs to be fixed more than Terra and Aqua: I still get chills when I realize Roxas was ONE when he died.

Creepy, Namura, creepy.

I think they will all get their share of Sora's "saving hand" or let's call it "saving keyblade". Don't use such ugly words as "died". he didn't die, he just became one with Sora and lives on within him. Well until he returns, if he does.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

I think they will all get their share of Sora's "saving hand" or let's call it "saving keyblade". Don't use such ugly words as "died". he didn't die, he just became one with Sora and lives on within him. Well until he returns, if he does.

Sorry to offened: the game guides even uses the "D" word on both Xion and Roxas.

Sorry.

Edited September 20, 2013 by TheTimidLight

[CROW 115]

Sorry to offened: the game guides even uses the "D" word on both Xion and Roxas.

Sorry.

Don't always listen to game guides. They can be pretty evil sometimes.

[Saber Lily 1,543]

Nomura said that the opening isn't canon to who the lights are  . However i do think Roxas will make a return for sure as his own person in KH3 and could still be a possibility for a light as Nomura also said that their identities will surprise us all and also that you don't have to be a wielder to be a light ( making Donald and Goofy possible candidates). Regardless the ending to DDD implies the possible return of Roxas, Xion , and even Namine through Ansem the Wise's hidden data. Sora himself told Roxas he's his own person .The implications are all there.

That part made me fangasm so hard.

 

Xion

 

 

And Game Guides tend to ignore the fact Nomura stated (somewhere - QUICK LEA CONFIRM OR DENY!) that there is no real afterlife in Kingdom Hearts.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

That part made me fangasm so hard.

 

Xion

 

 

And Game Guides tend to ignore the fact Nomura stated (somewhere - QUICK LEA CONFIRM OR DENY!) that there is no real afterlife in Kingdom Hearts.

 

Well are you referring to this maybe ?

 

Ansem the Wise says to Aqua �Everything is born from sleep.� What does this mean?

 

Nomura: In that scene the ones who are calling for �Sora� are the ones who have already disappeared from the world. But in the world of KH there is no concept of death, that for example they are just sleeping within Sora�s heart. If you can just wake them up, they�ll be able to return to the world, they would be �born from sleep�. That there would be a possibility of this, is what Ansem the Wise is saying. Even Aqua, who isn�t in the realm of light, would be born from sleep.

 

-- In that case, do the characters we see in that scene have a chance of returning?

 

Nomura: Yes. The data that Ansem has hidden within Sora is the secret to that revival. When Ansem had become DiZ, and studied the heart and emotions, the results he found he hid within Sora. There are a lot of people who thought that Coded was about finding those results, but that�s not true. The ending of Coded was about finding out that DiZ had done something to Sora, as Namine said, finding out about the data that Ansem hid. What that data is will be revealed in the next game.

[RoxSox 3,593]

I thought after playing the game that the lights were going to be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Mickey and Lea. I stand by that, since it makes sense to me.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I thought after playing the game that the lights were going to be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Mickey and Lea. I stand by that, since it makes sense to me.

 

That would be my guess as well but the point still remains the lights aren't confirmed and there are lots of candidates

[Fierce Deity Link 925]

I dunno why, but I really hope Kairi isn't one of the lights. I thought they'd somehow get Terra back or something...

[SkyEmerald 73]

I thought after playing the game that the lights were going to be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Mickey and Lea. I stand by that, since it makes sense to me.

Perhaps Mickey won't end up being a light...we all think he'll be one but as Nomura said we'll be surprised so who knows...Maybe it'll be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Lea, and Terra...

[RoxSox 3,593]

Perhaps Mickey won't end up being a light...we all think he'll be one but as Nomura said we'll be surprised so who knows...Maybe it'll be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Lea, and Terra...

Terra seems obvious, but the fact of the matter is we havn't seen head nor tail of Terra. Unlike Aqua, Ventus and Kairi who were alluded to in the DDD secret ending. I don't think Terra can be saved until after Xehanort has been beaten for good, since both his heart and body are still tied up somewhere.

[Zero071 2]

Personally I the lights are gonna be difficult to predict. I mean the way i see it, the only guaranteed person to be a light is Sora. The other six positions could be any one of (in no particular order) Ventus, Mickey, Kairi, Riku, Aqua, Terra (come on if Riku is a candidate then so is Terra), Lea, Roxas, hell even Xion.

In all honesty i only hope Roxas comes back since:  

• He needs to catch a break considering his year or so of life
• I want to see the reunion between him, Xion and Lea
• He need the chance to punch Riku and Ansem in the face for what they put him through in fake Twilight
• Yes i know this is a bit biased but he was actually the first character i played as so i was annoyed to see him go. 

Also is it just me or does anyone else think that having to live Sora's life with no freedom whatsoever is a fate worse than death? I am starting to think being whole is overrated.

[Philip Ellwell 5,487]

I thought after playing the game that the lights were going to be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Mickey and Lea. I stand by that, since it makes sense to me.

I agree. Also, this dude needs to come back into the games. His story deserves a conclusion, besides the " Returning To Sora " bit.

[Varnish 319]

Perhaps Mickey won't end up being a light...we all think he'll be one but as Nomura said we'll be surprised so who knows...Maybe it'll be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Ventus, Aqua, Lea, and Terra...

I think that it should be a rule that only humans can be the lights.

Also, could you please tell me when Nomura said that he has a surprise planned?

[teatimed 16]

I hope Roxas AND his skateboard make a comback on kh3

[Raziel 248]

Ahh, thank you sensei (i mean it). So it's not canon. I admit, it would've been too easy *nodnod* 

However, I'm actually indifferent when it comes to Roxas returning or not. I was just interested in this particular matter. If there is so much that hints to it though, I'm positive about that as well.

Yeah I wonder what they're going to do with him...DDD implies that he should be his own person, but I don't think a Nobody can exist outside if the real somebody exists at the same time. Plus, I don't think it's a good idea to have two exact twins of basically the same character. That would be really dumb to me.

 

Unless they changed his appearance to have black hair or something. Because if he IS his own person, Ven's heart wouldn't be inside him anymore, thus, giving him a new appearance. O_O O_O

[CROW 115]

Yeah I wonder what they're going to do with him...DDD implies that he should be his own person, but I don't think a Nobody can exist outside if the real somebody exists at the same time. Plus, I don't think it's a good idea to have two exact twins of basically the same character. That would be really dumb to me.

 

Unless they changed his appearance to have black hair or something. Because if he IS his own person, Ven's heart wouldn't be inside him anymore, thus, giving him a new appearance. O_O O_O

Roxas is a special nobody like Xemnas and Namine and unlike the rest of the organization. So it isn't odd for him to exist simultaneously with Sora. In fact he already did, because he was born in KHI when Sora released his and Kairi's hearts and the coexisted through the rest of KHI and CoM until Sora fell asleep. 

 

About the appearance, I would find both cases weird somehow On one hand it would be weird for two almost identically looking characters to coexist (the Norts are not the same, they don't look totally identical!), on the other hand though, it would be just as weird to suddenly give Roxas a whole new appearance, since everyone knows him like that and then he looks different all of a sudden. If Roxas really comes back, I'm very curious how they solve this.

[Mila 37]

Roxas is a special nobody like Xemnas and Namine and unlike the rest of the organization. So it isn't odd for him to exist simultaneously with Sora. In fact he already did, because he was born in KHI when Sora released his and Kairi's hearts and the coexisted through the rest of KHI and CoM until Sora fell asleep. 

 

wrong...until Sora woke up in KH 2 => Roxas had to disappear and Sora was able to wake up

Naminé coexisted until the end of KH 2

 

and the appearance:

in a normal case Ventus should be an adult now (maybe 20+) so it wouldn't be much of a problem to see who is Ven and who is Roxas (15/16 years)

but Ventus is sleeping for over 10 years without his heart and when we saw him in DDD it looks like the time for him has stopped