Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Did you know that the anti-black coat, from dream drop distance, is actually Vanitas. Edited September 20, 2013 by Master Eraqus 2 KeyOfVentus and Kevin_Keyblade reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chi-blade 125 Posted September 20, 2013 I think so too, but how do you know for sure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 I think so too, but how do you know for sure? Well, I actually got this from Information on Vanitas from this website. In a Birth By Sleep Novel, it says that before Ventus' heart connected with Sora's, (Beginning of the Game) Vanitas didn't have a face, just "RED EYES." Vanitas then got a face when Ventus' heart connected with Sora's. This is why Vanitas looks like Sora. 3 Kello, Kevin_Keyblade and Oli reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted September 20, 2013 That sounds interesting. Ah but how did his eyes change from red to yellow then? Neither Ventus nor Sora have yellow eyes. Has to do with Xehanort again, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) No he's not. Nomura said that Anti-Black Coat is nothing more than a physical manifestation of Sora's nightmare or something along those lines. They do look similar indeed but they are not the same. Edited September 20, 2013 by JTD95 8 Kevin_Keyblade, Oli, Kello and 5 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted September 20, 2013 That sounds interesting. Ah but how did his eyes change from red to yellow then? Neither Ventus nor Sora have yellow eyes. Has to do with Xehanort again, eh? Heartless have yellow eyes, it could just be because of darkness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 That sounds interesting. Ah but how did his eyes change from red to yellow then? Neither Ventus nor Sora have yellow eyes. Has to do with Xehanort again, eh? Maybe Xehanort had put part of his heart in Vanitas. No he's not. Nomura said that Anti-Black Coat is nothing more than a physical manifestation of Sora's nightmare or something along those lines. They do look similar indeed but they are not the same. Maybe the Anti-Black Coat is the remains of Vanitas. Heartless have yellow eyes, it could just be because of darkness That could be true, cause Vanitas is all of Ventus' darkness, just like a Heartless, only Vanitas holds half of Ventus' heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CROW 115 Posted September 20, 2013 Heartless have yellow eyes, it could just be because of darkness I don't think so. Vanitas is affiliated with the unversed, he creates them. Also yellow eyes have not really a real connection to heartless or darkness, but to Xehanort. Maybe Xehanort had put part of his heart in Vanitas. That's a possibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazimie 1,595 Posted September 20, 2013 Maybe the Anti-Black Coat is the remains of Vanitas. Vanitas was never even involved with Dream Eaters such as Anti-Black Coat.He's just created from Sora's OWN Nightmares,not from Vanitas's lingerings... 1 SkullMajora reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 20, 2013 No he's not. Nomura said that Anti-Black Coat is nothing more than a physical manifestation of Sora's nightmare or something along those lines. They do look similar indeed but they are not the same. Yup . Nomura's words here for all you doubters : — Riku fights a Nightmare wearing a black coat in this world, just who was that? Nomura: That Nightmare was the personification of the nightmare Sora was having. 4 Demyx., Hazimie, JTD95 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazimie 1,595 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Yup . Nomura's words here for all you doubters : — Riku fights a Nightmare wearing a black coat in this world, just who was that? Nomura: That Nightmare was the personification of the nightmare Sora was having. Dunno why,but every time a members makes a theory,whether Lea or Rob will make a conclusion of the theory that makes people agree,kinda like problem-solved Cycle,lol... Edited November 16, 2013 by Hazimie 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Vanitas was never even involved with Dream Eaters such as Anti-Black Coat.He's just created from Sora's OWN Nightmares,not from Vanitas's lingerings... Maybe Vanitas was Sora's Nightmare.(As in Sora was dreaming of him.) Edited September 20, 2013 by Master Eraqus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazimie 1,595 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Maybe Vanitas was Sora's Nightmare.(As in Sora was dreaming of him.) Sora never even met Vanitas until he met Young Xehanort along with him recently.How come it makes as a Nightmare to him? Edited September 20, 2013 by Hazimie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connected 978 Posted September 20, 2013 WAit.. who? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Sora never even met Vanitas until he met Young Xehanort along with him recently.How come it makes as a Nightmare to him? I don't know, maybe somehow, he entered inside Sora's mind. Edited September 20, 2013 by Master Eraqus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 20, 2013 OMGOSH! Are you serious? It all makes sense now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted September 20, 2013 Yup . Nomura's words here for all you doubters : — Riku fights a Nightmare wearing a black coat in this world, just who was that? Nomura: That Nightmare was the personification of the nightmare Sora was having. Thank you so much! I tried to look for the quote but didn't find it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) Thank you so much! I tried to look for the quote but didn't find it. No problem ! Sora never even met Vanitas until he met Young Xehanort along with him recently.How come it makes as a Nightmare to him? Even then it was just Ventus' heart reacting within Sora What about Vanitas? Nomura: Vanitas is different than Xemnas and Ansem; he doesn’t necessarily have a physical form. He reacted to Ventus within Sora, so that’s how he was visible. Maybe Vanitas was Sora's Nightmare.(As in Sora was dreaming of him.) Sorry but no , just no . Edited September 20, 2013 by Flaming Lea 3 Hazimie, Kevin_Keyblade and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted September 20, 2013 KH novels = A bunch of bullshit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philip Ellwell 5,487 Posted September 20, 2013 Did you know that the anti-black coat, from dream drop distance, is actually Vanitas. * mind explodes * KH novels = A bunch of bullshit Wait... there's NOVELS now? * sobs in corner for not knowing this * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 * mind explodes * Wait... there's NOVELS now? * sobs in corner for not knowing this * Don't worry. I found out about them last year, and there's only of Birth By Sleep. No problem ! Even then it was just Ventus' heart reacting within Sora What about Vanitas? Nomura: Vanitas is different than Xemnas and Ansem; he doesn’t necessarily have a physical form. He reacted to Ventus within Sora, so that’s how he was visible. Sorry but no , just no . Not Like That! I meant like Vanitas entered Sora's mind or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 Vanitas was never even involved with Dream Eaters such as Anti-Black Coat.He's just created from Sora's OWN Nightmares,not from Vanitas's lingerings... Riku wasn't either, but he entered Sora's dream and became a Dream Eater. So maybe Vanitas did the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 20, 2013 Don't worry. I found out about them last year, and there's only of Birth By Sleep. Not Like That! I meant like Vanitas entered Sora's mind or something. Riku wasn't either, but he entered Sora's dream and became a Dream Eater. So maybe Vanitas did the same. That doesn't even make sense . Sorry . But now you are just reaching . It's not Vanitas . Riku is also a living breathing person unlike Vanitas who doesn't even have a physical form right now.. Nomura said what the anti- blackcoat was . Nomura = canon fact . Novel's are not canon btw .Neither are manga. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted September 20, 2013 That doesn't even make sense . Sorry . But now you are just reaching . It's not Vanitas . Riku is also a living breathing person unlike Vanitas who doesn't even have a physical form right now.. Nomura said what the anti- blackcoat was . Nomura = canon fact . Novel's are not canon btw .Neither are manga. Look, I'm just saying what I found in this very website, alright. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philip Ellwell 5,487 Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) That doesn't even make sense . Sorry . But now you are just reaching . It's not Vanitas . Riku is also a living breathing person unlike Vanitas who doesn't even have a physical form right now.. Nomura said what the anti- blackcoat was . Nomura = canon fact . Novel's are not canon btw .Neither are manga. I dunno... Vanitas had form in BBS... As for manga not being canon: Larxene's fascination with The Marqis de Sade should be canon due to utter weirdness. Edited September 20, 2013 by TheTimidLight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
