Keyblade of despair 16 Posted September 16, 2013 You know how sora had to sacrifice himself to give kairi heart back so how is he gonna give vens heart back maybe sacrifices himself again I know aqua Is gonna wake up ven but how's he gonna get his heart back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 16, 2013 That's the only way Sora knew how to give back Kairi's heart back in KH1. In KH3 that might not certainly be the case .I'm sure that there are other ways to return hearts that he will be made aware of . Also, this could be where the ' key to return hearts ' comes into play whatever it is .It's also possible that once Ven's heart is fully awakened it could return itself , especially if Sora was brought to Ven's body via Aqua returning and leading him through CO. 1 Sora reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted September 16, 2013 Sora won't do another sacrifice, Nomura said Anti-Form is the closest he ever gets to becoming a Heartless again. I'm betting either Riku or Aqua will safely transfer Ven's heart beck into his body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxClouDxxmoon 901 Posted September 16, 2013 I dont know about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philip Ellwell 5,487 Posted September 16, 2013 You know how sora had to sacrifice himself to give kairi heart back so how is he gonna give vens heart back maybe sacrifices himself againI know aqua Is gonna wake up ven but how's he gonna get his heart back Why the fugq would that work twice? I think Ven was just a one-game-sad-character, like Xion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MajesticPenguin 14 Posted September 17, 2013 By performing an exorcism on Sora Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReikuSSR 1,071 Posted September 17, 2013 By performing an exorcism on Sora oh? I would love to do it. 1 Sora reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirie 3,489 Posted September 17, 2013 Pretty sure Sora ain't sacrificing again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
projecttank 15 Posted September 17, 2013 Actually Ven's heart is actually connected to Sora's unlike Kairi's. In Kingdom Hearts 1 Kairi's heart shared Sora's body so when he unlocked his heart it was freed, but Ventus's wasn't because it's actually sharing Sora's heart, basically the two hearts that flew off, one was Kairi's and the other was Ven's and Sora's before it turned into a heartless. After the fight with Vanitas Ven's heart was so damaged it couldn't survive, I mean why would it simply just go into Sora's body? If that was the case Ven's heart could've just stayed in his body, his heart was actually badly damaged and needed to attach itself to another heart to survive, Sora's being most compatible. Chances are reviving Ven's not going to be too hard, it's most likely just going to require something trivial while near Ven's body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Actually Ven's heart is actually connected to Sora's unlike Kairi's. In Kingdom Hearts 1 Kairi's heart shared Sora's body so when he unlocked his heart it was freed, but Ventus's wasn't because it's actually sharing Sora's heart, basically the two hearts that flew off, one was Kairi's and the other was Ven's and Sora's before it turned into a heartless. After the fight with Vanitas Ven's heart was so damaged it couldn't survive, I mean why would it simply just go into Sora's body? If that was the case Ven's heart could've just stayed in his body, his heart was actually badly damaged and needed to attach itself to another heart to survive, Sora's being most compatible. Chances are reviving Ven's not going to be too hard, it's most likely just going to require something trivial while near Ven's body. Actually even though Sora's heart was linked with Ven's to help heal him they are NOT merged or combined . When Sora lost his heart . HIS heart became a shadow which later got purified by Kairi and then took human form again as basically a walking heart.. Ven's heart stayed in Sora's physical body aka ROXAS. Which is why Roxas looks like Ven and not Sora ( since the heart shapes the vessel ) This has been confirmed by Nomura ages and ages ago . Edited September 17, 2013 by Flaming Lea 5 projecttank, LeYenrz, Varnish and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeYenrz 276 Posted September 17, 2013 Why the fugq would that work twice? I think Ven was just a one-game-sad-character, like Xion. why would he only appear in one game? it's obvious that all of them are going to pay a major role in the new kingdom hearts 3. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 17, 2013 why would he only appear in one game? it's obvious that all of them are going to pay a major role in the new kingdom hearts 3. IKR. But some people don't want to believe that certain characters can be saved or brought back no matter what others say or no matter what in game content heavily implies or even outright states Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeYenrz 276 Posted September 17, 2013 IKR. But some people don't want to believe that certain characters can be saved or brought back no matter what others say or no matter what in game content heavily implies or even outright states I do find it hilarious. No matter what, its been confirmed since like 2011. and all the people on the fandom are like 'well i THINK they won't be in there'. *facepalm* 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
projecttank 15 Posted September 17, 2013 Actually even though Sora's heart was linked with Ven's to help heal him they are NOT merged or combined . When Sora lost his heart . HIS heart became a shadow which later got purified by Kairi and then took human form again as basically a walking heart.. Ven's heart stayed in Sora's physical body aka ROXAS. Which is why Roxas looks like Ven and not Sora ( since the heart shapes the vessel ) This has been confirmed by Nomura ages and ages ago . So is like his body after Hollow Bastion a shell made by his and Kairi's heart? In a sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 17, 2013 So is like his body after Hollow Bastion a shell made by his and Kairi's heart? In a sense. Basically yeah . Kairi being a PoH and all plus their connection/memories of each other helped restore his human form even though Roxas still existed separately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varnish 319 Posted September 17, 2013 That's the only way Sora knew how to give back Kairi's heart back in KH1. In KH3 that might not certainly be the case .I'm sure that there are other ways to return hearts that he will be made aware of . Also, this could be where the ' key to return hearts ' comes into play whatever it is .It's also possible that once Ven's heart is fully awakened it could return itself , especially if Sora was brought to Ven's body via Aqua returning and leading him through CO. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Ventus' heart was already mostly awake... The Armoured Ventus Nightmare would not have existed without his heart, and his heart (with the appearance of him with a body) also communicated with Riku while he was inside Sora, so what is left? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Ventus' heart was already mostly awake... The Armoured Ventus Nightmare would not have existed without his heart, and his heart (with the appearance of him with a body) also communicated with Riku while he was inside Sora, so what is left? His heart was reacting so it's implying that hes awakening . We just don't know to what point so we don't want to assume . If you think about it , it started to awaken when it reacted to the trauma of Xion's death by allowing Roxas to use Ven's keyblade too. Does it mean he's fully awakened ? Well we don't know for a fact that we can say that for sure .But we know it's damn near close if not . After that, it could be a matter of guiding the heart back by bringing it closer to it's physical body and maybe it will rejoin by itself . ( possible theory) But we need Aqua for that. Edited September 17, 2013 by Flaming Lea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted September 17, 2013 Actually even though Sora's heart was linked with Ven's to help heal him they are NOT merged or combined . When Sora lost his heart . HIS heart became a shadow which later got purified by Kairi and then took human form again as basically a walking heart.. Ven's heart stayed in Sora's physical body aka ROXAS. Which is why Roxas looks like Ven and not Sora ( since the heart shapes the vessel ) This has been confirmed by Nomura ages and ages ago . What a nice excuse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 17, 2013 What a nice excuse. Excuse ? What are you talking about ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KH4Real 749 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Excuse ? What are you talking about ? That Ven's heart is in Sora's physical body. They just haven't planned bbs when they were creating KH1. But yeah that may be probably right lol. Edited September 17, 2013 by KH4Real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 17, 2013 That Ven's heart is in Sora's physical body. They just haven't planned bbs when they were creating KH1. It doesn't negate the fact that it's canon fact for the series . Q1: Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike? A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas� body, is Ventus� heart. Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield? A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades. Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield. As for Nomura writing as he goes , well that's no secret .Even he admits that : — Speaking of the previous titles, about when do you start thinking of the ‘next title’? Nomura: It’s a gradual process. When Kingdom Hearts was in production, I was considering ideas for Kingdom Hearts II and Chain of Memories. And when those two were in production, I was thinking of ideas for the next three, 358/2 Days, Coded, and Birth by Sleep. — Were you thinking of KH3D when those 3 titles were in production? Nomura: KH3D was put together relatively quickly, I was still concepting the story when I brought it to the table. It is what it is . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites