SoraKH 793 Posted September 9, 2013 KH Brainiacs needed! Okay guys Um so i was doing my monthly research of KH and i ended up watching some videos about the story that confused me even more Now the questions are a lot so i need a KH braniac to help me ;p 1) Time Travelling: Yeah i know there have been hundreads of these questions but i need a more deep explenation of the whole situation. How did all start and how did all ended. 2) Xehanort's Plans: Yeah so Xehanort had multiple plans in case other knes would fail. So we have his very first plan, forging Ventus with Vanitas and creating the x blade. The plan failed because Ventus turned out to be weak. What were the other plans? 3) Who are the Vessels: So As far as I know by who the vessels are i figured out three of them: MX,YMX and Braig. Am I correct? And is there a chance that some of the Vessels may be members of the organazation? 4) Chamber of Repose: I know this has been answered but it just doesnt make sence to me. Does Xemnas communicate with Aqua ? Or is it Terra who speaks with her? And it has been said that Aqua told Xemnas that Ventus is in CO. And how the heck can Aqua communicate with someone while she is in the realm of darkness? 5) Ansem the Wise was banished to the realm of nothing where he met Aqua. How did he then come back when he appeared as DiZ and when he did, why didn't Aqua go with him? 6) Axel's/Lea's return: So we see Axel die in KH2 when he helps us kill the nobodies. So after how did he come back? Is it because his nobody was killed and he got restored? But then, his heartless had to be killed to! 7) Riku's Nobody: When Riku gave into the darkness, when he changed form. Was he a heartless? So is it possible that he may have a nobody? 8) Ventus awake: So in KHDDD when Riku dived into Sora to wake him up, he had to defeat Ventus nightmare. Does that have any connection eith Ventus waking up? 9) Sora: Okay last question So when Sora heard he failed his test he decided to leave for some time! Does that mean he will be seperated by the others when KH3 starts? And where did Sora go? Phew...Okay guys so these are my questions! I know they are a lot, but please help me 2 The Transcendent Key and RoxasXSora reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted September 9, 2013 1.) Not my can of worms sorry. 2.) Making 7 lights and 13 darknesses fight. ThTs all we know atm 3.) You know as much as we do and can theorize just as wildly. 4.) I think Xmnas was insane. Flaming Lea might know. 5.) Ansem went to the RoD twice; Blank Points is after his machine explodes, iirc. 6.) Yes his Heartless died. Flaming Lea WILL know. 7.) He was possessed, never turned into a Heartless. So no. As much as we can wish. 8.) No. 9.) He went to the Realm of Dreams to see the Spirits that helped him. We don't know the implications. I am praying for a Spirit army to appear and lay down som righteous smackdown on Heartless, Nobodies, and possibly Unversed. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) 1) To time travel you need to have a version of you where you are traveling to. Not sure what else you need to know... 2) All his plans are in KH1, 2, bbs and ddd3) Ansem Seeker of darkness, Xemnas, Young Xehanort, Braig, Isa are the only ones we know about. 4) I don't think it is ever really said. It does have stuff to do with the chamber of waking though. 5) When Ansem the wise was talking with aqua it was after kh2. 6) His heartless and nobody were destroyed so he reformed. 7) No 8) He isnt awake yet. 9) He went to go thank the dream eaters. He will be back with the others. Sora Donald and Goofy will be looking for the guardians of light and the key to return hearts. Edited September 9, 2013 by Megaman X 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Aww, you refer to us as brainiacs, I'm so flattered! Okay, to answer your questions. Ahem: You see, the time travel endeavor is all part of Xehanort's plan for conquering Kingdom Hearts. When he was aware that he could be able to split himself into many selves, his heartless, Ansem, went back in time to when Xehanort was young, and he told him of the plan that was to be established, and that you would need a version of yourself to be where you were going to time travel to. And so, everything ensued in KH3D, and the time travel thing ended when Xehanort and the others disappeared. (That's what I understood anyway.) As Oathkeeper mentioned, his current plan is to make the Thirteen Darknesses and Seven Lights Clash to form the X-Blade, and in so doing that, unlock Kingdom Hearts. Okay, so the current people so far that have been revealed are Xehanort, Young Xehanort, Ansem, Xemnas, Braig, and Isa. In my opinion, the remaining vessels might be Vanitas, Repliku, Middle Aged Xehanort, Terranort, Luxord, and Demyx. I haven't played BBS Final Mix, so I can't help you there buddy. He meets Aqua after he dies in The World That Never Was. The secret movie Blank Points is after Kingdom Hearts 2. Yes, Lea came back after his Nobody was defeated, because all Nobodies return to their former selves after their respective Heartless and Nobody are defeated. He never turned into a Heartless, he was just possesed by Ansem. Nope, no connection at all. Sora went to thank the Spirit Dream Eaters for their help in his journey. And I'm guessing that he'll be with Donald and Goofy in KH3 when the game starts. Well, that's that for the questions. I hope I was able to help you in any way! ^_^ Edited September 9, 2013 by Sesshomaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panosgate7 52 Posted September 9, 2013 1.) Not my can of worms sorry.2.) Making 7 lights and 13 darknesses fight. ThTs all we know atm3.) You know as much as we do and can theorize just as wildly.4.) I think Xmnas was insane. Flaming Lea might know.5.) Ansem went to the RoD twice; Blank Points is after his machine explodes, iirc.6.) Yes his Heartless died. Flaming Lea WILL know.7.) He was possessed, never turned into a Heartless. So no. As much as we can wish.8.) No.9.) He went to the Realm of Dreams to see the Spirits that helped him. We don't know the implications. I am praying for a Spirit army to appear and lay down som righteous smackdown on Heartless, Nobodies, and possibly Unversed. All the questions were answered by this guy except from the first which I can answer...!!! First of all, in order to travel through time you must leave your body behind! ASoD was a Heartless so he had no problem with that!! Secondly, you can move either in the future or in the past but when you arrive at your destination you can only move into the future! So, ASoD traveled in the past and gave the ability to YMX to travel in the future and collect all the Xehanorts from different timelines and bring them in TWTNW to welcome the full version of MX!! I don't know if I'm completely correct but that's what I've understood from KH3D!!! I hope I was helpful!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philip Ellwell 5,487 Posted September 9, 2013 Me is stoopid: Axel came back in DDD? DAMN WAITING TILL MY BDAY TO PLAY DDD!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) I- Were the 13 Seekers of Darkness, who were meant to be in different times, gathered by transcending time with magic? Nomura: Just as it says in the story, to transcend time one must ‘first’ discard their form. As a result of the actions of the Brown Robed Figure, they all were in a state where they had gained the power to transcend time. The Brown Robed Figure explains the facts. The thirteen were summoned at the same time, this time thanks to Young Xehanort who borrowed that power. However, apart from Young Xehanort, that does not mean that all the members transcended time. — In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed? Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, ‘The World That Never Was’, where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened. What about Xemnas and Ansem, essentially they weren’t inside anyone, was it due to circumstances of the worlds of sleep? Nomura: First off, when Young Xehanort made contact with the Brown Robed Figure, that is to say, the Xehanort who called himself Ansem, his abilities were transferred to him. As a result of Master Xehanort tossing his physical body, he was able to exceed time, and this power was carried into the Brown Robed Figure. Thus when Young Xehanort made contact with him, he gained this power. Possessing this power. Young Xehanort functioned as a “portal”, summoning Xemnas and Ansem each time they appeared. That’s why Young Xehanort was there whenever they appeared. Additionally, when Sora and Riku dropped into the worlds of sleep, simultaneously Young Xehanort himself goes into the world of sleep. 2- The other plans are what his other incarnations did to form KH in KH1, Kh2, and in what he did in BBS . Those are what we have seen but who knows what else he might have attempted in his past before the times we ever saw him appear pre-BBS 3-well we know the ones we saw in DDD like Xemnas, Ansem SoD, ymx, isa/saix,and braig/xigbar are ones .We don't know the rest and it's meant to be a mystery till kh3. Yes other org members from the old org can be possible hooded vessels .We just haven't seen them yet . 4-Q12: Why is Xemnas searching for The Chamber of Awakening? A: To find Ventus.The Chamber of Awakening is the room where Aqua leaves Ventus sleeping in Last Episode, and is a part of Castle Oblivion. As you can see from Xemnas calling Aqua�s armor �friend�, it seems Xemnas has Terra�s memories and so is searching for Ventus, and is making the other Organization members look for The Chamber of Awakening. ^^^ As noted by Nomura he talks to aqua sorta through her armor. We assume thats how he found out he needed to look there but we don't know for sure ..Since Xemnas has both Terra's and MX's memories , i'm sure when he talks to the armor it could be bc of Terra AND MX for many 'reasons'. All we know for sure is (bc of DDD) MX definitely was in control . 5-. Ansem the wise has been to the RoD twice, the last time after he was blown up in KH2. We last see him with Aqua there which takes place after the events of KH2. The version we saw in DDD was a data version of him he hid in Sora . 6 - yes his heartless was also killed so LEA was revived . 7-He was possessed so he never turned into a Heartless.He got his body back eventually too .He didn't make a nobody 8- DDD shows us implications that Ven's heart is awakening but regardless it still needs reuniting with his body .His heart is obviously reacting though 9- Sora didn't leave bc he failed his test . He left to go thank the dream eaters . Nomura wanted to show that he earned powers to access the sleeping worlds : — I see. Were there certain intentions in that scene with the Dream Eaters? Nomura: That scene was added in the final stages of production. It wouldn’t feel right to have worked so hard raising the Dream Eaters without some sort of closure. Also, since Sora has obtained the power to open doors into the worlds of sleep, I purposely wanted to show a scene where he used that power. Edited September 9, 2013 by Flaming Lea 5 juma086, Wisdomform, luka and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyReaper 27 Posted September 9, 2013 1- Ansem The Seeker of Darkness traveled back into time and regrouped the different forms of Xehanort to one moment in hope that Sora would fall to darkness at that moment in order to form the 13 darkness's in order to trigger the forging of the x-Blade. 2- Xehanort had three plans all in order for one ultimate goal! To forge the x-blade which would call forth Kingdom Hearts; triggering the keyblade war. First one was of course forging Ventus and Vanitas. Second was opening the door to darkness to get to Kingdom Hearts. Third was have 13 darkness (Org. XIII) and 7 lights face off to forge the x-blade. 3- I'm guessing its the 6 forms of Xehanort. (YX, MX, ASoD, Xemnas, Terra-nort, Possessed Riku,), Vanitas, Then the other 5 would be the remaining original Org. XIII memebers that have not been shown returned like lea and other have already been. The 13th darkness has not been found yet. 4- Xemnas(being Terra possessed by Xehanort's Nobody.) taslked to Aqua's armor and found out that Ventus is there but hasn't found him. 5- Aqua was not in the realm of nothing with Ansem the wise, After KH2 Ansem ended up in the Realm of Darkness where he THEN met Aqua where they still are at. 6- The whole Org. XIII has been return to there Sobody state because of there Heartless being destroyed then there Nobody just like Xemnas/AnsemSoD. 7- Riku never became a heartless he just embarrassed the darkness of Xehanort inside of him. 8- In order to wake Ventus they must go to Castle Oblivion and find him and return his heart that is inside of Sora. 9- Sora was just sent to get whatever is needed to save the others. 1 SoraKH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraKH 793 Posted September 10, 2013 I- Were the 13 Seekers of Darkness, who were meant to be in different times, gathered by transcending time with magic? Nomura: Just as it says in the story, to transcend time one must ‘first’ discard their form. As a result of the actions of the Brown Robed Figure, they all were in a state where they had gained the power to transcend time. The Brown Robed Figure explains the facts. The thirteen were summoned at the same time, this time thanks to Young Xehanort who borrowed that power. However, apart from Young Xehanort, that does not mean that all the members transcended time. — In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed? Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, ‘The World That Never Was’, where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened. What about Xemnas and Ansem, essentially they weren’t inside anyone, was it due to circumstances of the worlds of sleep? Nomura: First off, when Young Xehanort made contact with the Brown Robed Figure, that is to say, the Xehanort who called himself Ansem, his abilities were transferred to him. As a result of Master Xehanort tossing his physical body, he was able to exceed time, and this power was carried into the Brown Robed Figure. Thus when Young Xehanort made contact with him, he gained this power. Possessing this power. Young Xehanort functioned as a “portal”, summoning Xemnas and Ansem each time they appeared. That’s why Young Xehanort was there whenever they appeared. Additionally, when Sora and Riku dropped into the worlds of sleep, simultaneously Young Xehanort himself goes into the world of sleep. 2- The other plans are what his other incarnations did to form KH in KH1, Kh2, and in what he did in BBS . Those are what we have seen but who knows what else he might have attempted in his past before the times we ever saw him appear pre-BBS 3-well we know the ones we saw in DDD like Xemnas, Ansem SoD, ymx, isa/saix,and braig/xigbar are ones .We don't know the rest and it's meant to be a mystery till kh3. Yes other org members from the old org can be possible hooded vessels .We just haven't seen them yet . 4-Q12: Why is Xemnas searching for The Chamber of Awakening? A: To find Ventus.[/size]The Chamber of Awakening is the room where Aqua leaves Ventus sleeping in Last Episode, and is a part of Castle Oblivion. As you can see from Xemnas calling Aqua�s armor �friend�, it seems Xemnas has Terra�s memories and so is searching for Ventus, and is making the other Organization members look for The Chamber of Awakening.[/size] ^^^ As noted by Nomura he talks to aqua sorta through her armor. We assume thats how he found out he needed to look there but we don't know for sure ..Since Xemnas has both Terra's and MX's memories , i'm sure when he talks to the armor it could be bc of Terra AND MX for many 'reasons'. All we know for sure is (bc of DDD) MX definitely was in control .[/size] 5-. Ansem the wise has been to the RoD twice, the last time after he was blown up in KH2. We last see him with Aqua there which takes place after the events of KH2. The version we saw in DDD was a data version of him he hid in Sora .[/size] 6 - yes his heartless was also killed so LEA was revived .[/size] 7-[/size]He was possessed so he never turned into a Heartless.He got his body back eventually too .He didn't make a nobody[/size] 8- DDD shows us implications that Ven's heart is awakening but regardless it still needs reuniting with his body .His heart is obviously reacting though 9- Sora didn't leave bc he failed his test . He left to go thank the dream eaters . Nomura wanted to show that he earned powers to access the sleeping worlds : — I see. Were there certain intentions in that scene with the Dream Eaters? Nomura: That scene was added in the final stages of production. It wouldn’t feel right to have worked so hard raising the Dream Eaters without some sort of closure. Also, since Sora has obtained the power to open doors into the worlds of sleep, I purposely wanted to show a scene where he used that power. ahaha thank you so much 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 10, 2013 ahaha thank you so much You are welcome 1 SoraKH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoraKH 793 Posted September 10, 2013 You are welcome Lol when ever I have a question I will know who to talk to 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luka 23 Posted September 10, 2013 Flaming Lea has it right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites