Will Ven have Roxas' memories?

[chi-blade 125]

actually you don't need to wait. Go watch the viscera TODAY in full English dub online. It's on YouTube alreadyNope. Xiggy sees her as ven because she was absorbing parts of sora's memories. Venus wasn't in her.

Absorbing Soras memories through Roxas, yet xigber didn't see Roxas as Ven. And also after Xion died, Roxas could dual wield. Because Ventus heart went into Roxas? Right?

[Janssye 24]

My theory: Ventus was inside of Xion, because in 358/2 days Xigber stated that Xion made the same face expression that Ven made 'like someone drowned his fish' (I think he said that lol). Then suddenly we see Ventus for a split second attacking Xigber instead of Xion.

That drowned fish quote has to be one of the best quotes of Kingdom Hearts hahaha

[Raziel 248]

I doubt Nomura had come up with the idea for BBS yet when he made 358/2 Days. 

Um...Days came out years after KH2 did and 2 had a secret ending showing the BBS trio and part of the end fight against Xehanort. I'm pretty sure he had quite an idea of BBS's story by the time Days was released...There's deeper meaning in why Ven showed up which also proves that fact.

[JayReaper 27]

Um...Days came out years after KH2 did and 2 had a secret ending showing the BBS trio and part of the end fight against Xehanort. I'm pretty sure he had quite an idea of BBS's story by the time Days was released...There's deeper meaning in why Ven showed up which also proves that fact.

Alright i'm just going to shut up about Days because I pretty much know nothing about that game lol. I guess I still need to do my research.

Edited September 9, 2013 by JayReaper

[Raziel 248]

Alright i'm just going to shut up about Days because I pretty much know nothing about that game lol. I guess I still need to do my research.

;]

[Jake 1,488]

i do not believe that happening

[DAMN 80]

Make a plot twist where all the events of BBS were a dream of Roxas...so that Roxas exists and Ventus doesn't

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

My theory: Ventus was inside of Xion, because in 358/2 days Xigber stated that Xion made the same face expression that Ven made 'like someone drowned his fish' (I think he said that lol). Then suddenly we see Ventus for a split second attacking Xigber instead of Xion.

Nope . Ven's heart was in Roxas- Sora's physical body .

 

Why do Roxas and Ventus look alike?

A: Because inside Sora, which is Roxas� body, is Ventus� heart.

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades.

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

 

Isn't that because everyone sees Xion differently depending on who they knew the most out of the people that are connected to Sora?

 

Pretty much different people see Xion different ways throughout Days based off their own memories. Axel once saw her as Namine bc he hadn't even met Kairi yet - who Xion is based off of . ( soras memories of Kairi anyways). But he also eventually saw her as Xion sees herself - the black haired girl...

 

Day 172: Meaning Behind the Words Author: Axel There has to be something to what Saïx said. Why isn't Xion qualified to be one of us? He said to just look at her, but at what? The fact that she looks like Naminé? Xion and Naminé must be connected. Whose Nobody is Xion, anyway? What is Saïx hiding?

 

Xion looked like "him" in Xigbar's eyes (see here), so why did he also treat her as a girl? 

Nomura: First of all, Xigbar didn't always see Xion as "him", it's more like he appeared just at that moment. He always sees Roxas treating her as a girl, so he just goes along with that. There's no need to give Roxas doubts, and the way he called her "Puu-chan (Doll)" from the start was just joking around, typical for a guy like him. 

 

 

Day 255: Final Stages Author: Xemnas Xion's appearance should vary based on the relation of the viewer to her. Saïx sees her simply as a puppet. The Program approaches completion. Through Roxas, Xion is assembling a copy of the hero of the Keyblade. As proof, she sometimes appears to take on his form to my eyes.

 

 

Day 256 

The fact that Xion reflects varying appearances depending on who's looking at her is written here. We can see that she appears as someone else to Xemnas and Xigbar. 

 

 

Day 256: Who We Each See Author: Xigbar Xion's disappearance is fascinating. If she really is breaking from our control, it's a sign of her approaching the essence of the hero. It seems Saïx doesn't truly "see" her. I'm curious to know how she appears to the others. I see her as... him, though I suspect that Xemnas sees entirely something else in her.

Edited September 9, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[LeYenrz 276]

Absorbing Soras memories through Roxas, yet xigber didn't see Roxas as Ven. And also after Xion died, Roxas could dual wield. Because Ventus heart went into Roxas? Right?

 

xigbar probably thought that Roxas looked similar to ven. there just wasn't an occasion to  remark that he did. and why roxas could dual weild? two theories: Roxas claimed XIon's keyblade and used it. second: her death triggered something deep within Roxas for him to wield ventus' keyblade.

 

if you think that your theory is so accurate, here's a fact: hearts can't be transferred through memories. and how would Xion gain ventus' heart in any way other than the same method kairi used to transfer a part of her heart into sora?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

xigbar probably thought that Roxas looked similar to ven. there just wasn't an occasion to  remark that he did. and why roxas could dual weild? two theories: Roxas claimed XIon's keyblade and used it. second: her death triggered something deep within Roxas for him to wield ventus' keyblade.

 

if you think that your theory is so accurate, here's a fact: hearts can't be transferred through memories. and how would Xion gain ventus' heart in any way other than the same method kairi used to transfer a part of her heart into sora?

  Xion's keyblade was fake - an imitation . This is fact . It's stated in game by Riku and by Nomura himself  . Roxas dual wields bc he uses Vens and Sora's keyblades . Xions death triggered access to Ven's keyblade due to the emotional trauma of Xions death .This is all confirmed by Nomura too .

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades.

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

 

 In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion�s? 

 

Nomura: Well, it isn�t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion�s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a �heart� to be able to wield one

 

 Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora�s memories to be restored, both Sora�s Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody? 

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn�t think that she was Sora or Kairi�s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that�s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn�t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

[chi-blade 125]

Xion's keyblade was fake - an imitation . This is fact . It's stated in game by Riku and by Nomura himself  . Roxas dual wields bc he uses Vens and Sora's keyblades . Xions death triggered access to Ven's keyblade due to the emotional trauma of Xions death .This is all confirmed by Nomura too .

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades.

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

 

 In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion�s? [/size]Nomura: Well, it isn�t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion�s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the [/size]KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a �heart� to be able to wield one[/size]

 

 Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora�s memories to be restored, both Sora�s Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody? [/size]

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn�t think that she was Sora or Kairi�s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that�s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn�t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.[/size]

I understand much better, but how could Xion release hearts from the heartless with a fake Keyblade?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I understand much better, but how could Xion release hearts from the heartless with a fake Keyblade?

 Nomura logic

[LeYenrz 276]

  Xion's keyblade was fake - an imitation . This is fact . It's stated in game by Riku and by Nomura himself  . Roxas dual wields bc he uses Vens and Sora's keyblades . Xions death triggered access to Ven's keyblade due to the emotional trauma of Xions death .This is all confirmed by Nomura too .

 

Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?

A: Because he can use both Sora�s and Ventus� keyblades.

Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus� as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.

 

 In the end Roxas is able use two keyblades. Is this because he now has Xion�s? 

 

Nomura: Well, it isn�t that Roxas has physically inherited Xion�s keyblade, but more that Xion has awakened it within Roxas. In the KH series there are a lot of complex reasons why someone can use a keyblade, but basically you need a �heart� to be able to wield one

 

 Namine tells Riku that in order for Sora�s memories to be restored, both Sora�s Nobody and Xion must no longer exist. So he takes it on himself to defeat them, but when he and Roxas fought, was that the first time he had realized that Roxas was that Nobody? 

Nomura: Riku only realizes it when Roxas takes off his hood and he can see his face, and he responds to his call. Until then he only half believed. When he first met Xion, he didn�t think that she was Sora or Kairi�s Nobody, and it was the same with Roxas. When he first saw Roxas, he had no proof of who he was. So that�s why he lost to Roxas, he was surprised at him using a real keyblade rather than an imitation like Xion's, and he called out to him. Part of Riku didn�t really want to believe that his best friend really had a Nobody.

 

flaming lea.  you will always explain things better than me. and thank you for that piece of the  interview. i learned something new today. 

 

did the keyhole and kh wiki update their answers? because i remember both sites saying something different.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

flaming lea.  you will always explain things better than me. and thank you for that piece of the  interview. i learned something new today. 

 

did the keyhole and kh wiki update their answers? because i remember both sites saying something different.

  LOL Thanks .I just try to help . I don't use the keyhole or wiki for anything except to copy and paste reports so i'm not sure. They aren't always the most reliable .I use gamefaqs and the interview archive here for posting interviews. 

[chi-blade 125]

In Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix, Sora could wield 3 keyblades in the battle against Roxas. Nomura logic indeed..

[LeYenrz 276]

  LOL Thanks .I just try to help . I don't use the keyhole or wiki for anything except to copy and paste reports so i'm not sure. They aren't always the most reliable .I use gamefaqs and the interview archive here for posting interviews. 

 

i guess so, now that you've proved to me that they're both unreliable. lol. how do you know which interviews to look at for the replies on this site? it might be a dumb question since i've never bothered to look at the interviews. haha but i guess i should look now. in stead of the keyhole.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

i guess so, now that you've proved to me that they're both unreliable. lol. how do you know which interviews to look at for the replies on this site? it might be a dumb question since i've never bothered to look at the interviews. haha but i guess i should look now. in stead of the keyhole.

 

Well I already know the answers - i just use the interviews to back my answer up . So depending on what game and question i'm answering to i just search the interviews for that game and time period. A lot of the times i actually don't even need to search bc i remember what interviews I read them in .

[LeYenrz 276]

Well I already know the answers - i just use the interviews to back my answer up . So depending on what game and question i'm answering to i just search the interviews for that game and time period. A lot of the times i actually don't even need to search bc i remember what interviews I read them in .

dang. so i guess you read every interview that comes out? i guess i better start reading.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

dang. so i guess you read every interview that comes out? i guess i better start reading.

 

LOL well yeah I like to be informed

[KHUndertaleFan25 2,858]

Ven and Roxas are different characters.Ven is a shitty copycat of Roxas

No they are not

 

Ven is a Pussy and he's whiny as firetruck...Roxas is badass and awesome as hell

He is not whiny :angry:!

[King.Mickey 359]

Ven and Roxas are different characters.Ven is a shitty copycat of Roxas

No they are not

 

Ven is a Pussy and he's whiny as firetruck...Roxas is badass and awesome as hell

Roxas is a copy of Ven...