Benjamin Woodham 3 Posted September 7, 2013 Warning Spoilers!!! Okay so Sora failed to pass the Master's Exam in Dream Drop Distance. I can understand why he didn't pass though. First of all, the story would be far less interesting if Sora was flawless.. I think what Nomura was trying to do was allow Riku a chance to redeem himself a bit more than he did in KHII. The other thing is, Riku is a lot more familiar with the dark side of the Keyblade than Sora is. He knows what to watch out for which makes him far more eligible to be a Master than Sora is. However, what does not make sense is that Sora has defeated Riku, and is far more skilled in combat than Riku is. I have some theories as to what Nomura is doing. 1. Sora might have already far surpassed Riku's mastery of the Keyblade, but the exam may be set up to have the weaker of the two key blade wielders pass to test the one who doesn't to see if they turn to the dark side of the key blade in order to attain power. I think that is the real test. 2. Nomura might be gearing Riku up to kill him off later. Redeeming him in the last game, and then killing him off in the third in order to allow Sora and Kairi to be together. I suspect he would perform some sort of self sacrifice. This is a bit far fetched though, seeing as Kairi hasn't been involved in Sora's life since the ending of the first game. I rather like this idea though... for some reason. 3. Nomura might be trying to crush Sora's spirit to see how his innocence and determination react to failure. The question is however, will Sora become a master at the end of the third game? I think that would be a good place to go in the third game. Also... more Kairi... and I wouldn't mind Riku's death if it meant Sora and Kairi show SOME sort of romantic interest in eachother. What do you guys think? 3 Kittenz, Cucco and The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted September 7, 2013 Yes. 1 Benjamin Woodham reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazimie 1,595 Posted September 7, 2013 I think it would be more fit if Sora became Master at the start of the game.If not,we just waiting for him to be one by controlling Kairi or any other characters in the meantime... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted September 7, 2013 No. It would be nice, but no. Normura said that becoming a Master would make Sora less of a "normal boy" and that's why he wasn't made one in 3D. Nomura doesn't want Sora to be a Master Though IMO, Sora stopped being a"normal boy" a long time ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nweintraub 630 Posted September 7, 2013 No! Riku must not die! He should stay alive! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkAvenger 88 Posted September 7, 2013 I disagree with the most things you said.And if Sora become keyblade master i think he will be either in the end of KH3 or in another game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) This is why Nomura did what he did : — This title is the first KH game in a while to feature Sora and Riku as protagonists. Nomura: I heard from many fans that they wanted to play as Sora again soon, and I felt I wanted to answer them. However, the true protagonist in plot for this title isn’t Sora, it’s Riku. The story depicted in this title is of Riku’s growth as he changes stance and makes the darkness he had been locking inside himself up until now into his own power. This is symbolised by Riku being chosen as a Keyblade Master at the end. As for Sora, it doesn't matter if he becomes one or not . He has already saved the world how many times?? It's basically just a title when it comes down to it . He has the power of a master and that's all that matters . As for romance, I wouldn't hold your breath since KH mostly focuses on friendship, not romance, although Sokai is prolly the closest thing to a 'canon' romance outside of the disney worlds storylines. ( not that i'm against it ) Edited September 7, 2013 by Flaming Lea 3 Hazimie, Demyx. and Rob reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Juan 574 Posted September 7, 2013 Sora will be a master in some form or another. In the trailer for KH3, he picks up Master Keeper, and only a Keyblade Master can wield it (i.e. Eraqus and Aqua). So yeah, if Sora wasn't considered a Master already, I think he definitely will be in 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) No. It would be nice, but no. Normura said that becoming a Master would make Sora less of a "normal boy" and that's why he wasn't made one in 3D. Nomura doesn't want Sora to be a Master Though IMO, Sora stopped being a"normal boy" a long time ago. Yep . Here's the interview for that for anyone who wants to see : Nomura : I thought a lot about whether Sora was to become Keyblade Master or not. But because I always wanted Sora to relate to the players, if he became Master, it would have meant he would have really reached a very high level and it is not yet ready for it, and we do not want that to happen. The decision to not make Sora a Keyblade Master was not really difficult, but I thought it was better that he remains an ordinary boy to be closer to the players. Sora will be a master in some form or another. In the trailer for KH3, he picks up Master Keeper, and only a Keyblade Master can wield it (i.e. Eraqus and Aqua). So yeah, if Sora wasn't considered a Master already, I think he definitely will be in 3. Trailer is noncanon and purely symbolic : Nomura: In this stage of testing he can transform it. By the way, in the trailer, Sora picks up the Keyblade belonging to Master Eraqus that Aqua had. We put that together in order to remind you of the story of KHIII, as this time we weren't able to prepare a scene that would show you a portion of the drama. It's never been said that only masters can wield Master Keeper -- other wielders can wield other wielders keyblades . It's happened a few times already in the series . Edited September 7, 2013 by Flaming Lea 2 Benjamin Woodham and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted September 7, 2013 Sora will be a master in some form or another. In the trailer for KH3, he picks up Master Keeper, and only a Keyblade Master can wield it (i.e. Eraqus and Aqua). So yeah, if Sora wasn't considered a Master already, I think he definitely will be in 3. That's not true. It has never been stated that only Masters can wield the Master Keeper.It has been stated that any wielder can use any Keyblade as long as the original owner allows them to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Juan 574 Posted September 7, 2013 Yep . Here's the interview for that for anyone who wants to see : Nomura : I thought a lot about whether Sora was to become Keyblade Master or not. But because I always wanted Sora to relate to the players, if he became Master, it would have meant he would have really reached a very high level and it is not yet ready for it, and we do not want that to happen. The decision to not make Sora a Keyblade Master was not really difficult, but I thought it was better that he remains an ordinary boy to be closer to the players. Trailer is noncanon and purely symbolic : Nomura: In this stage of testing he can transform it. By the way, in the trailer, Sora picks up the Keyblade belonging to Master Eraqus that Aqua had. We put that together in order to remind you of the story of KHIII, as this time we weren't able to prepare a scene that would show you a portion of the drama. It's never been said that only masters can wield Master Keeper -- other wielders can wield other wielders keyblades . It's happened a few times already in the series . Once again, foiled by Lea. 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 7, 2013 Does it really matters if Sora became a master???? He gets nothing new for becoming a master other than getting a castle......and maybe the right to train someone which you honestly can do without the Master rank So far,Sora has done what no other master can do,he dozens of worlds while other Masters like Eraqus are setting on their ass doing nothing He has defeated two incarnations of Master Xehanort(His heartless and nobody) and he defeated ONE THOUSAND heartless alone in Hollow BastionRadiant Garden. And he did all that before Yen Sid's Master rank test I don't know why people think the Master rank is a huge deal. It's so irrelevant to the plot to the point it's existence it's so pointless Who gives a shit about the Master Rank???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake 1,488 Posted September 7, 2013 I agree i think so Theories must be tested tho 1 Benjamin Woodham reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Winds 2,576 Posted September 7, 2013 Basically, Sora won't be a Keyblade Master for a long time. I'm actually okay with this, because Sora still has that innocence and childish manner, which really aren't good qualifications for a Keyblade Master. However, Sora's innocence and childish manner are very strong characteristics. Not only are they something we, as the player, can relate too, but's it's also what makes Sora's heart the strongest. Sora's heart is unwavering in its ways and due to that, many have taken refuge within it. Ventus when he went to sleep, Roxas when he returned to Sora, Xion when she returned [Though born a puppet, she grew her own heart and characteristics] to Sora, Namine when she returned to Kairi [born of Kairi's heart and Sora's body and soul], Axel/Lea as he faded away, Ansem the Wise having encoded his way into Sora through data. He waits with Aqua in the Realm of Darkness for Sora to free them by their birth by sleep, just as many others lie in wait of the same fate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 7, 2013 As for Nomura saying Sora is a normal boy???I call bullshit on that one A normal who can store three hearts(His own,Kairi's and Ventus's) just fine with no problems unlike Terra And also can fall from the sky with little damage(before you say keyblade,he wasn't holding it when he fell to Deep Jungle) He's also connected to all wielders and said to have connection with Kingdom Hearts itself(HE OPENED THE DOOR TO LIGHT,something no other wielder did)....and many other examples I can mention,it can't be all coming from the keyblade because other wielders didn't get as much power as him except maybe Xehanort Yeah pretty normal Nomura!!!!! I bet Nomura saying he's normal just to hide a certain plot point that he don't want to spoil early in the series 2 Mr. Boba and Benjamin Woodham reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rocky Shoe 169 Posted September 7, 2013 The title is just a title. This reminds me about Naruto. Both of them are more powerful than those that do hold the title of Mastery, but they donn't hold the title themselves. SO I hope he doesn't get it. Sora doesn't even care about the title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jorrell3946 70 Posted September 7, 2013 Yes. He's going to become a Keyblade Master at the end of the third game. 1 Benjamin Woodham reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gothamninja394 92 Posted September 7, 2013 Its like Naruto being stuck at the genin level Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin Woodham 3 Posted September 7, 2013 Does it really matters if Sora became a master???? He gets nothing new for becoming a master other than getting a castle......and maybe the right to train someone which you honestly can do without the Master rank So far,Sora has done what no other master can do,he dozens of worlds while other Masters like Eraqus are setting on their ass doing nothing He has defeated two incarnations of Master Xehanort(His heartless and nobody) and he defeated ONE THOUSAND heartless alone in Hollow BastionRadiant Garden. And he did all that before Yen Sid's Master rank test I don't know why people think the Master rank is a huge deal. It's so irrelevant to the plot to the point it's existence it's so pointless Who gives a shit about the Master Rank???? As the original fanbase of Sora gets older, don't you think that becoming master would be a good way to mature the character so that he becomes relatable to the older audience? I think that is why I care. Also I care because I played a whole game where becoming master was the point... and so now I actually want to see that happen. It's like the first game, you play through the whole game hoping that someday Kairi and Sora will get together and at the end they get separated again and now I think that reality is pretty far fetched, but if Nomura did that I would die of happiness... I care because I love the game and promises have been made and I would like to see them fulfilled. This is just one of those promises or possibilities I'd like to see. That is all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted September 7, 2013 As the original fanbase of Sora gets older, don't you think that becoming master would be a good way to mature the character so that he becomes relatable to the older audience? I think that is why I care. Also I care because I played a whole game where becoming master was the point... and so now I actually want to see that happen. It's like the first game, you play through the whole game hoping that someday Kairi and Sora will get together and at the end they get separated again and now I think that reality is pretty far fetched, but if Nomura did that I would die of happiness... I care because I love the game and promises have been made and I would like to see them fulfilled. This is just one of those promises or possibilities I'd like to see. That is all. Higher ranks doesn't equal maturity Eraqus himself was arrogant and immature in how he fears from the darkness so much that he never gave Terra a chance And I can count many examples from many other works that higher ranks means nothing in terms of maturity.(example:nobody bitched about Naruto being a Genin to this day because the Chunin and Jonin ranks add nothing to the character except the right to have students to teach) And technically,by DDD's mission's definition,Both Sora and Riku closed all the keyholes in the realm of sleep and both gained the power to unlock hearts.Sora would've been considered a master if it wasn't for Organization XIII who've been luring both him and Riku into the realm of sleep.It was Yen Sid's fault that Sora was captured by Xehanort because Yen Sid was stupid enough not to predict that Xehanort won't wait for the test to be over to target his enemies Both Sora and Riku got the power they went to the realm of sleep for.It's just Riku got the rank because Organization XIII didn't need him anymore thus they didn't target him. No matter what you say.The master rank add nothing neither to the plot nor to the maturity of the character.Riku's maturity came from his desire to redeem himself and get the power he need to protect his friends,not because the bullshit of the master rank. I said it before and I'll say it again.The master rank means nothing and it's becoming more and more irrelevant to the plot as the series progresses 2 The Rocky Shoe and The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin Woodham 3 Posted September 7, 2013 Higher ranks doesn't equal maturity Eraqus himself was arrogant and immature in how he fears from the darkness so much that he never gave Terra a chance And I can count many examples from many other works that higher ranks means nothing in terms of maturity.(example:nobody bitched about Naruto being a Genin to this day because the Chunin and Jonin ranks add nothing to the character except the right to have students to teach) And technically,by DDD's mission's definition,Both Sora and Riku closed all the keyholes in the realm of sleep and both gained the power to unlock hearts.Sora would've been considered a master if it wasn't for Organization XIII who've been luring both him and Riku into the realm of sleep.It was Yen Sid's fault that Sora was captured by Xehanort because Yen Sid was stupid enough not to predict that Xehanort won't wait for the test to be over to target his enemies Both Sora and Riku got the power they went to the realm of sleep for.It's just Riku got the rank because Organization XIII didn't need him anymore thus they didn't target him. No matter what you say.The master rank add nothing neither to the plot nor to the maturity of the character.Riku's maturity came from his desire to redeem himself and get the power he need to protect his friends,not because the bullshit of the master rank. I said it before and I'll say it again.The master rank means nothing and it's becoming more and more irrelevant to the plot as the series progresses Alright I can agree with that it does not affect Sora personally. However, Terra's response to not attaining the master rank did have a significant affect on the entire plot of birth by sleep. Also, as a master, Riku will have to pass down his knowledge of the keyblade to others in the future or keep it locked away. Master isn't just a title, Mastery is "comprehensive knowledge or skill in a subject or accomplishment" or "control or superiority over someone or something" Remember in the first game when Riku tried to use the keyblade but it kept going back to Sora in the first game? He felt unworthy of the keyblade because of that so to attain mastery over the keyblade before Sora is a incredibly significant to the plot and Riku's character development. It means he is capable of everything Sora has done as long as he believes in himself and that he no longer has to fear the darkness in his heart as long as he is keen enough to resist it. So this is significant in my opinion, but again, do you think that Sora attaining ultimate mastery over the keyblade would be significant to the plot of the series? I think Nomura would allow Sora to attain mastery over the keyblade if the plot actually called for it and I think KHIII does call for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted September 8, 2013 He doesnt need to become one since he is.....THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE SERIES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrinceNoctis 1,011 Posted September 9, 2013 WHAT! HE CAN'T KILL RIKU! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted September 9, 2013 Sora will never become a Keyblade Master. According to the canon of the series, you are only allowed to become a Keyblade Master if you fail on a semi-regular basis, do NOT save the world, or if you manage to give into Darkness at least once. Since all Sora does is succeed, help people before helping himself, and save the universe many times over, he's clearly underqualified. 1 Zola reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAMN 80 Posted September 10, 2013 Doubt it...unless he grows old as firetruck like 40 years old or something and has matured and shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites