KHDays Xion Actually Does Stuff. Seriously.

[Dracozombie 4,554]

I'll be a lot of you are surprised and, upon seeing this title, were more than happy to correct me with the irrefutable proof Xion is, in fact, a useless blob, a Mary Sue, and that there are better characters to focus on.  Honestly, I agree with the last part.  The second part I already wrote an essay against.  I suppose one is going to refute the first part.

 

First off, I'm not necessarily advocating Xion's inclusion in Days.  I'm not examining her (lack of?) necessity.  I'm not decrying nor supporting her role in the story, and whether or not Days truly needed her to carry the story it wanted.  That's an argument for the fans and the haters, which can both be pretty obnoxious.  The only thing I'm doing is seeing how what is presented fits into KH's story.  The conclusion I drew is that Xion is the direct opposite of useless.  On the contrary, of the RAX trio, Xion has the most active role.

 

A lot of people are happy to whine at Xion for running away from her friends instead of telling them her problems.  They have the idea that all Xion needed to do was confide into her friends and everything would've been hunky dory, that they could have found a better solution if they all worked together, and that her keeping secrets made the whole thing worse because OMG what a stupid selfish bitch!!!1

 

Um, no.  Not really.  Okay, Xion keeping secrets wasn't good.  At no point did the story present it as the proper thing to do.  But when I thought about reasons for why Xion didn't tell them--which were sadly left mostly unexplored within the game proper--the more I realized how Xion had the best grasp of the situation out of everyone.  And not only was she was the only one who knew about the situation, she was the only one who actively did something about it.

 

Roxas and Xion needed to go back to Sora.  They couldn't coexist without killing each other, either.  There was no way around it, and Xion understood that.  Her running away and not telling her friends what's going on wasn't the best choice, because KH2 showed Roxas peacefully (though sadly) accepting his fate.  They probably could've avoided Roxas needing to kill her altogether and save him a lot of heartache.  BUT, there are factors that would make such an outcome really hard to pull off.  Axel is the main one.

 

Axel didn't give two shits about Sora.  He wanted to keep Roxas and Xion as his friends regardless if Sora got the shaft.  Wanting to keep them as his friends wasn't exactly unsympathetic, since friendship is in short supply as a Nobody in Organization XIII.  He wanted that friendship so badly he was willing to lie to Roxas and beat up Xion if it meant protecting them.  Just like Xion running away wasn't presented as good, neither was Axel's actions.  But, it seems weird how many people are quick to demonize Xion's actions while sympathizing with Axel (probably has something to do with the fanbase he had years to acquire).  In fact, it's damn near hypocritical to defend Axel on the basis of, "Well, what choice did he have?" while treating Xion as the only one truly in the wrong because hey, it's not like she had no choice either and Axel was the one actually stopping her from setting things right.

 

Had Xion confided into Axel, he really would've stopped both of them.  In fact, he would've made things worse for everyone.  There was nothing he could've realistically done to help their situation.  He couldn't stop how Roxas and Xion's coexistence would kill each other.  He wouldn't have let either of them merge back with Sora, whether or not they were willing.  He would've tried to talk them out of it, or failing that, keep them by force.  But, since he couldn't have done anything about the coexistence thing--and because he couldn't have helped them short of allowing Xion, who understood what she needed to do, to accomplish her goal--the only thing he accomplished was losing Roxas's trust.

 

Xion's a bitch?  Please.  Axel made the entire situation worse by preventing them from from understanding the situation.  For sympathetic reasons, definitely, but I'm sorry--you cannot demonize Xion without demonizing Axel as well.  You either sympathize with both or you sympathize with neither.  I do the former.  Everyone had to draw their own conclusions because Roxas wanted to know the truth about himself, and Xion did know and had to merge back with Sora to set everything right.  Axel prevented the both of them from doing so.

 

(Sorry, I'm not a big Axel fan [or a big Xion fan for that matter], so I have no bias goggles on to speak of.  I honestly do believe people automatically defend Axel over Xion simply because they like him better, not out of any true examination of who was more right or wrong.)

 

Xion was the only one who knew what was going on, but unlike Axel and Roxas, she actually had solutions to do something about it.  She sought out Riku and Namine for help, because she couldn't have trusted her friends.  Doing so would've just made things more complicated.  She's the only one who actively did something about what was happening to her.

 

Of course, just as many people hate Xion precisely because she does so much, which supposedly takes away the focus on the important characters.  Oh well, that's the Kingdom Hearts fanbase for you--no matter what happens, someone bitches about it.

[KHUndertaleFan25 2,858]

I like Xion and Axel, even though i like Roxas more. But anyway, Xion wasn't useless to me. We both have one thing in common, though: We both were forgotten (she was forgotten by her friends and the others, and I was forgotten by the kids who bullied me in middle school.) So I could relate to her almost.

[Cucco 1,907]

fair enough

[Saber Lily 1,543]

Draco.

 

You are my hero.

[kingdomheartts3boi 2]

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i like roxas & xion 

make a good couple

[xoblivionx13 1,133]

....my goodness that was awesome.

[Xaldin III 80]

I'll be a lot of you are surprised and, upon seeing this title, were more than happy to correct me with the irrefutable proof Xion is, in fact, a useless blob, a Mary Sue, and that there are better characters to focus on.  Honestly, I agree with the last part.  The second part I already wrote an essay against.  I suppose one is going to refute the first part.

 

First off, I'm not necessarily advocating Xion's inclusion in Days.  I'm not examining her (lack of?) necessity.  I'm not decrying nor supporting her role in the story, and whether or not Days truly needed her to carry the story it wanted.  That's an argument for the fans and the haters, which can both be pretty obnoxious.  The only thing I'm doing is seeing how what is presented fits into KH's story.  The conclusion I drew is that Xion is the direct opposite of useless.  On the contrary, of the RAX trio, Xion has the most active role.

 

A lot of people are happy to whine at Xion for running away from her friends instead of telling them her problems.  They have the idea that all Xion needed to do was confide into her friends and everything would've been hunky dory, that they could have found a better solution if they all worked together, and that her keeping secrets made the whole thing worse because OMG what a stupid selfish bitch!!!1

 

Um, no.  Not really.  Okay, Xion keeping secrets wasn't good.  At no point did the story present it as the proper thing to do.  But when I thought about reasons for why Xion didn't tell them--which were sadly left mostly unexplored within the game proper--the more I realized how Xion had the best grasp of the situation out of everyone.  And not only was she was the only one who knew about the situation, she was the only one who actively did something about it.

 

Roxas and Xion needed to go back to Sora.  They couldn't coexist without killing each other, either.  There was no way around it, and Xion understood that.  Her running away and not telling her friends what's going on wasn't the best choice, because KH2 showed Roxas peacefully (though sadly) accepting his fate.  They probably could've avoided Roxas needing to kill her altogether and save him a lot of heartache.  BUT, there are factors that would make such an outcome really hard to pull off.  Axel is the main one.

 

Axel didn't give two shits about Sora.  He wanted to keep Roxas and Xion as his friends regardless if Sora got the shaft.  Wanting to keep them as his friends wasn't exactly unsympathetic, since friendship is in short supply as a Nobody in Organization XIII.  He wanted that friendship so badly he was willing to lie to Roxas and beat up Xion if it meant protecting them.  Just like Xion running away wasn't presented as good, neither was Axel's actions.  But, it seems weird how many people are quick to demonize Xion's actions while sympathizing with Axel (probably has something to do with the fanbase he had years to acquire).  In fact, it's damn near hypocritical to defend Axel on the basis of, "Well, what choice did he have?" while treating Xion as the only one truly in the wrong because hey, it's not like she had no choice either and Axel was the one actually stopping her from setting things right.

 

Had Xion confided into Axel, he really would've stopped both of them.  In fact, he would've made things worse for everyone.  There was nothing he could've realistically done to help their situation.  He couldn't stop how Roxas and Xion's coexistence would kill each other.  He wouldn't have let either of them merge back with Sora, whether or not they were willing.  He would've tried to talk them out of it, or failing that, keep them by force.  But, since he couldn't have done anything about the coexistence thing--and because he couldn't have helped them short of allowing Xion, who understood what she needed to do, to accomplish her goal--the only thing he accomplished was losing Roxas's trust.

 

Xion's a bitch?  Please.  Axel made the entire situation worse by preventing them from from understanding the situation.  For sympathetic reasons, definitely, but I'm sorry--you cannot demonize Xion without demonizing Axel as well.  You either sympathize with both or you sympathize with neither.  I do the former.  Everyone had to draw their own conclusions because Roxas wanted to know the truth about himself, and Xion did know and had to merge back with Sora to set everything right.  Axel prevented the both of them from doing so.

 

(Sorry, I'm not a big Axel fan [or a big Xion fan for that matter], so I have no bias goggles on to speak of.  I honestly do believe people automatically defend Axel over Xion simply because they like him better, not out of any true examination of who was more right or wrong.)

 

Xion was the only one who knew what was going on, but unlike Axel and Roxas, she actually had solutions to do something about it.  She sought out Riku and Namine for help, because she couldn't have trusted her friends.  Doing so would've just made things more complicated.  She's the only one who actively did something about what was happening to her.

 

Of course, just as many people hate Xion precisely because she does so much, which supposedly takes away the focus on the important characters.  Oh well, that's the Kingdom Hearts fanbase for you--no matter what happens, someone bitches about it.

Have I ever told you how much I love you? Thanks for setting the Poppet issue straight! :'D

[Javelin434 3,164]

(Sorry, I'm not a big Axel fan [or a big Xion fan for that matter], so I have no bias goggles on to speak of.  I honestly do believe people automatically defend Axel over Xion simply because they like him better, not out of any true examination of who was more right or wrong.)

You do realize that the main reason he's still alive past KH2 and the reason he now wields a keyblade is because of the rather vocal fanbase right? Mind you, this is the same vocal fanbase that wants Xion gone, and other things that piss me off to no avail so I'll just leave it at that before I blow a fuse and throw my future away. 

 

Also...

 

Draco.

 

You are my hero.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I'll be a lot of you are surprised and, upon seeing this title, were more than happy to correct me with the irrefutable proof Xion is, in fact, a useless blob, a Mary Sue, and that there are better characters to focus on.  Honestly, I agree with the last part.  The second part I already wrote an essay against.  I suppose one is going to refute the first part.

 

First off, I'm not necessarily advocating Xion's inclusion in Days.  I'm not examining her (lack of?) necessity.  I'm not decrying nor supporting her role in the story, and whether or not Days truly needed her to carry the story it wanted.  That's an argument for the fans and the haters, which can both be pretty obnoxious.  The only thing I'm doing is seeing how what is presented fits into KH's story.  The conclusion I drew is that Xion is the direct opposite of useless.  On the contrary, of the RAX trio, Xion has the most active role.

 

A lot of people are happy to whine at Xion for running away from her friends instead of telling them her problems.  They have the idea that all Xion needed to do was confide into her friends and everything would've been hunky dory, that they could have found a better solution if they all worked together, and that her keeping secrets made the whole thing worse because OMG what a stupid selfish bitch!!!1

 

I don't necessarily think confiding would've made things 'hunky dory' but it would've made a heck of a lot more sense then constantly running away with no explanation why and even forcing fights by drawing her weapon on her own friends. Even if it might not have changed what needed to happen the WAY it went down could've been a lot different .Nothing about the way she went about it was smart or unselfish . All the time she spent moping and her 'woe is me ' attitude didn't seem unselfish or at least not any less selfish than what Axel felt.

 

Um, no.  Not really.  Okay, Xion keeping secrets wasn't good.  At no point did the story present it as the proper thing to do.  But when I thought about reasons for why Xion didn't tell them--which were sadly left mostly unexplored within the game proper--the more I realized how Xion had the best grasp of the situation out of everyone.  And not only was she was the only one who knew about the situation, she was the only one who actively did something about it.

The fact that her reasons about why she went about things the way she did was unexplored and badly explained is part of the problem people have .

 

Roxas and Xion needed to go back to Sora.  They couldn't coexist without killing each other, either.  There was no way around it, and Xion understood that.  Her running away and not telling her friends what's going on wasn't the best choice, because KH2 showed Roxas peacefully (though sadly) accepting his fate.  They probably could've avoided Roxas needing to kill her altogether and save him a lot of heartache.  BUT, there are factors that would make such an outcome really hard to pull off.  Axel is the main one.

Another reason people think that whole situation was handled wrong .

 

Axel didn't give two shits about Sora.  He wanted to keep Roxas and Xion as his friends regardless if Sora got the shaft.  Wanting to keep them as his friends wasn't exactly unsympathetic, since friendship is in short supply as a Nobody in Organization XIII.  He wanted that friendship so badly he was willing to lie to Roxas and beat up Xion if it meant protecting them.  Just like Xion running away wasn't presented as good, neither was Axel's actions.  But, it seems weird how many people are quick to demonize Xion's actions while sympathizing with Axel (probably has something to do with the fanbase he had years to acquire).  In fact, it's damn near hypocritical to defend Axel on the basis of, "Well, what choice did he have?" while treating Xion as the only one truly in the wrong because hey, it's not like she had no choice either and Axel was the one actually stopping her from setting things right.

 

Many people like myself point out that Axel was also in the wrong - but he at least wanted to find a way to save all parties involved- not that he was necessarily being selfish. Like he told Xion -At first he thought that her going back was the best thing  - but then he thought the whole think 'stunk' and wondered if there was a better way . Also, Axel knew that if Roxas and Xion left they would be destroyed and he didn't want them dead .. Axel knew at one point that Sora and Roxas were able to co-exist at the same time so it does stand to reason he thought there might possibly be another solution to consider .

 

Had Xion confided into Axel, he really would've stopped both of them.  In fact, he would've made things worse for everyone.  There was nothing he could've realistically done to help their situation.  He couldn't stop how Roxas and Xion's coexistence would kill each other.  He wouldn't have let either of them merge back with Sora, whether or not they were willing.  He would've tried to talk them out of it, or failing that, keep them by force.  But, since he couldn't have done anything about the coexistence thing--and because he couldn't have helped them short of allowing Xion, who understood what she needed to do, to accomplish her goal--the only thing he accomplished was losing Roxas's trust.

That's the thing - although Axel really didn't have a chance at saving everyone - he wanted to at least TRY and see . He just didn't know how . 

 

Xion's a bitch?  Please.  Axel made the entire situation worse by preventing them from from understanding the situation.  For sympathetic reasons, definitely, but I'm sorry--you cannot demonize Xion without demonizing Axel as well.  You either sympathize with both or you sympathize with neither.  I do the former.  Everyone had to draw their own conclusions because Roxas wanted to know the truth about himself, and Xion did know and had to merge back with Sora to set everything right.  Axel prevented the both of them from doing so.

But Xion DID know the whole truth and kept it from Roxas just as much as Axel did. Xion kept Roxas from the truth just as much and therefore also prevented the truth . Why not just lay it on the line and let Roxas come to terms with it like he eventually did ? .Like I mentioned previously, she did the exact thing to Roxas Axel did but only Axel was hated on by Roxas for it .It's hypocracy and very annoying . I get annoyed by the hypocracy more than the actual characters involved.

 

(Sorry, I'm not a big Axel fan [or a big Xion fan for that matter], so I have no bias goggles on to speak of.  I honestly do believe people automatically defend Axel over Xion simply because they like him better, not out of any true examination of who was more right or wrong.)

And you get Xion lovers who demonize Axel when they both did the same thing basically .

 

Xion was the only one who knew what was going on, but unlike Axel and Roxas, she actually had solutions to do something about it.  She sought out Riku and Namine for help, because she couldn't have trusted her friends.  Doing so would've just made things more complicated.  She's the only one who actively did something about what was happening to her.

 Going to her friends and explaining what was going on would've made things at least better than what it turned out bc of the lies and hurt feelings. Also, to Axel , he wanted to find out if there was another way ..but they never got to even find out..If they could've at least tried to find every avenue available and THEN realized there was no other way maybe it could've at least ended on better terms.

 

Of course, just as many people hate Xion precisely because she does so much, which supposedly takes away the focus on the important characters.  Oh well, that's the Kingdom Hearts fanbase for you--no matter what happens, someone bitches about it.

Also for the record, i'm neutral on Xion .

Edited August 6, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Whimsy-Mimsy 99]

This is so perfect. Although Lea made some good points, bringing the argument a lil back to Axel's side, I think that so many people are predisposed to hating Xion that they automatically side with Axel, just because he's the eye candy. I love Axel, don't get me wrong, but I loved Xion just as much, possibly because I hadn't been biased by the many Axel fangirls on the internet.

[Dave 5,715]

I think of Xion's decision to not tell anyone anything to be something like the situation in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." (Spoiler warnings for everyone who hasn't seen a movie released since the 1950s). Xion comes to the stunning realization that their sleepy town (so to speak) is actually being run by a bunch of power hungry megalomaniacs who likely don't have either her nor Roxas's personal interests at stake. Not to mention that the extraordinarily high level of surveillance that the Organization is capable of means that even if Xion were to tell anyone about it, either she would be found out quickly, or, worse yet, the person she talks to might very well be inclined to inform against her. Especially given that Axel's defined role in the Organization is that of the "problem solver." So that leaves getting out of Dodge, which, as it turns out, wasn't really a terrible decision. 

 

As far as Axel's role in the matter: as I've said before, Axel's hands aren't clean, but that's why his character works so well. He has his own personal agendas that gradually become more and more complicated as his friendship with Roxas grows. At this point, he's trying to juggle his old life with his new. Until a year ago, Axel would have had no trouble lying and decieving, because that was part of his job, and besides, there's no one to get hurt anyways. But now with Roxas around, it's no longer that easy, and there are definite consequences to his actions that he has to face. The fact that Axel does get to face consequences, which many of the other characters in the series don't necessarily have to do, is what helps him develop so well and makes him a more dynamic character.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

This is so perfect. Although Lea made some good points, bringing the argument a lil back to Axel's side, I think that so many people are predisposed to hating Xion that they automatically side with Axel, just because he's the eye candy. I love Axel, don't get me wrong, but I loved Xion just as much, possibly because I hadn't been biased by the many Axel fangirls on the internet.

 

The thing is - it's not exactly just Axel fans who hate on Xion .. I never hated her character and felt more nuetral.. There are tons of Xion fans who hate on Axel too . You just cannot make everyone happy

[Dracozombie 4,554]

 

I'll be a lot of you are surprised and, upon seeing this title, were more than happy to correct me with the irrefutable proof Xion is, in fact, a useless blob, a Mary Sue, and that there are better characters to focus on.  Honestly, I agree with the last part.  The second part I already wrote an essay against.  I suppose one is going to refute the first part.

 

First off, I'm not necessarily advocating Xion's inclusion in Days.  I'm not examining her (lack of?) necessity.  I'm not decrying nor supporting her role in the story, and whether or not Days truly needed her to carry the story it wanted.  That's an argument for the fans and the haters, which can both be pretty obnoxious.  The only thing I'm doing is seeing how what is presented fits into KH's story.  The conclusion I drew is that Xion is the direct opposite of useless.  On the contrary, of the RAX trio, Xion has the most active role.

 

A lot of people are happy to whine at Xion for running away from her friends instead of telling them her problems.  They have the idea that all Xion needed to do was confide into her friends and everything would've been hunky dory, that they could have found a better solution if they all worked together, and that her keeping secrets made the whole thing worse because OMG what a stupid selfish bitch!!!1

 

I don't necessarily think confiding would've made things 'hunky dory' but it would've made a heck of a lot more sense then constantly running away with no explanation why and even forcing fights by drawing her weapon on her own friends. Even if it might not have changed what needed to happen the WAY it went down could've been a lot different .Nothing about the way she went about it was smart or unselfish . All the time she spent moping and her 'woe is me ' attitude didn't seem unselfish or at least not any less selfish than what Axel felt.

 

Um, no.  Not really.  Okay, Xion keeping secrets wasn't good.  At no point did the story present it as the proper thing to do.  But when I thought about reasons for why Xion didn't tell them--which were sadly left mostly unexplored within the game proper--the more I realized how Xion had the best grasp of the situation out of everyone.  And not only was she was the only one who knew about the situation, she was the only one who actively did something about it.

The fact that her reasons about why she went about things the way she did was unexplored and badly explained is part of the problem people have .

 

Roxas and Xion needed to go back to Sora.  They couldn't coexist without killing each other, either.  There was no way around it, and Xion understood that.  Her running away and not telling her friends what's going on wasn't the best choice, because KH2 showed Roxas peacefully (though sadly) accepting his fate.  They probably could've avoided Roxas needing to kill her altogether and save him a lot of heartache.  BUT, there are factors that would make such an outcome really hard to pull off.  Axel is the main one.

Another reason people think that whole situation was handled wrong .

 

Axel didn't give two shits about Sora.  He wanted to keep Roxas and Xion as his friends regardless if Sora got the shaft.  Wanting to keep them as his friends wasn't exactly unsympathetic, since friendship is in short supply as a Nobody in Organization XIII.  He wanted that friendship so badly he was willing to lie to Roxas and beat up Xion if it meant protecting them.  Just like Xion running away wasn't presented as good, neither was Axel's actions.  But, it seems weird how many people are quick to demonize Xion's actions while sympathizing with Axel (probably has something to do with the fanbase he had years to acquire).  In fact, it's damn near hypocritical to defend Axel on the basis of, "Well, what choice did he have?" while treating Xion as the only one truly in the wrong because hey, it's not like she had no choice either and Axel was the one actually stopping her from setting things right.

 

Many people like myself point out that Axel was also in the wrong - but he at least wanted to find a way to save all parties involved- not that he was necessarily being selfish. Like he told Xion -At first he thought that her going back was the best thing  - but then he thought the whole think 'stunk' and wondered if there was a better way . Also, Axel knew that if Roxas and Xion left they would be destroyed and he didn't want them dead .. Axel knew at one point that Sora and Roxas were able to co-exist at the same time so it does stand to reason he thought there might possibly be another solution to consider .

 

Had Xion confided into Axel, he really would've stopped both of them.  In fact, he would've made things worse for everyone.  There was nothing he could've realistically done to help their situation.  He couldn't stop how Roxas and Xion's coexistence would kill each other.  He wouldn't have let either of them merge back with Sora, whether or not they were willing.  He would've tried to talk them out of it, or failing that, keep them by force.  But, since he couldn't have done anything about the coexistence thing--and because he couldn't have helped them short of allowing Xion, who understood what she needed to do, to accomplish her goal--the only thing he accomplished was losing Roxas's trust.

That's the thing - although Axel really didn't have a chance at saving everyone - he wanted to at least TRY and see . He just didn't know how . 

 

Xion's a bitch?  Please.  Axel made the entire situation worse by preventing them from from understanding the situation.  For sympathetic reasons, definitely, but I'm sorry--you cannot demonize Xion without demonizing Axel as well.  You either sympathize with both or you sympathize with neither.  I do the former.  Everyone had to draw their own conclusions because Roxas wanted to know the truth about himself, and Xion did know and had to merge back with Sora to set everything right.  Axel prevented the both of them from doing so.

But Xion DID know the whole truth and kept it from Roxas just as much as Axel did. Xion kept Roxas from the truth just as much and therefore also prevented the truth . Why not just lay it on the line and let Roxas come to terms with it like he eventually did ? .Like I mentioned previously, she did the exact thing to Roxas Axel did but only Axel was hated on by Roxas for it .It's hypocracy and very annoying . I get annoyed by the hypocracy more than the actual characters involved.

 

(Sorry, I'm not a big Axel fan [or a big Xion fan for that matter], so I have no bias goggles on to speak of.  I honestly do believe people automatically defend Axel over Xion simply because they like him better, not out of any true examination of who was more right or wrong.)

And you get Xion lovers who demonize Axel when they both did the same thing basically .

 

Xion was the only one who knew what was going on, but unlike Axel and Roxas, she actually had solutions to do something about it.  She sought out Riku and Namine for help, because she couldn't have trusted her friends.  Doing so would've just made things more complicated.  She's the only one who actively did something about what was happening to her.

 Going to her friends and explaining what was going on would've made things at least better than what it turned out bc of the lies and hurt feelings. Also, to Axel , he wanted to find out if there was another way ..but they never got to even find out..If they could've at least tried to find every avenue available and THEN realized there was no other way maybe it could've at least ended on better terms.

 

Of course, just as many people hate Xion precisely because she does so much, which supposedly takes away the focus on the important characters.  Oh well, that's the Kingdom Hearts fanbase for you--no matter what happens, someone bitches about it.

Also for the record, i'm neutral on Xion .

 

 

Fair enough.  I don't think any of the RAX trio truly handled the situation properly (Xion ran off and worried her friends sick, Axel deceived them, and Roxas didn't bother to hear him out), but I'm just trying to see things from Xion's perspective since it doesn't happen often.  From my experience, Axel fans who hate Xion are far more common than Xion fans who hate Axel.  Honestly, I've never seen any Xion fan hate Axel--actually, I rarely if ever see Axel hate in general, so I have no idea what you're talking about with the Axel bashers.  And I like giving a hand to the underdog.

 

But at the end of the day, the situation sucked for everyone, and anything anyone could've done to improve it would be marginal at best.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I think of Xion's decision to not tell anyone anything to be something like the situation in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers." (Spoiler warnings for everyone who hasn't seen a movie released since the 1950s). Xion comes to the stunning realization that their sleepy town (so to speak) is actually being run by a bunch of power hungry megalomaniacs who likely don't have either her nor Roxas's personal interests at stake. Not to mention that the extraordinarily high level of surveillance that the Organization is capable of means that even if Xion were to tell anyone about it, either she would be found out quickly, or, worse yet, the person she talks to might very well be inclined to inform against her. Especially given that Axel's defined role in the Organization is that of the "problem solver." So that leaves getting out of Dodge, which, as it turns out, wasn't really a terrible decision. 

Except Axel never was one to blindly follow the Org's orders either when it suits him . He's a wild card most times .He also covered for Roxas and Xion many times or did things like let Xion go and took blows from both Xion and Roxas to save them from fighting each other unknowingly in Halloween Town .If there was anyone she could've went to it was him for those reasons alone .

 

As far as Axel's role in the matter: as I've said before, Axel's hands aren't clean, but that's why his character works so well. He has his own personal agendas that gradually become more and more complicated as his friendship with Roxas grows. At this point, he's trying to juggle his old life with his new. Until a year ago, Axel would have had no trouble lying and decieving, because that was part of his job, and besides, there's no one to get hurt anyways. But now with Roxas around, it's no longer that easy, and there are definite consequences to his actions that he has to face. The fact that Axel does get to face consequences, which many of the other characters in the series don't necessarily have to do, is what helps him develop so well and makes him a more dynamic character.

 I agree a lot with this . You literally get to see Axel change into a better person and see multiple side to him and that has helped him become one of the better developed characters throughout the series .

Fair enough.  I don't think any of the RAX trio truly handled the situation properly (Xion ran off and worried her friends sick, Axel deceived them, and Roxas didn't bother to hear him out), but I'm just trying to see things from Xion's perspective since it doesn't happen often.  From my experience, Axel fans who hate Xion are far more common than Xion fans who hate Axel.  Honestly, I've never seen any Xion fan hate Axel--actually, I rarely if ever see Axel hate in general, so I have no idea what you're talking about with the Axel bashers.  And I like giving a hand to the underdog.

 

But at the end of the day, the situation sucked for everyone, and anything anyone could've done to improve it would be marginal at best.

 

You can blame some of the Xion haters on those who support Axel and Roxas as a couple . They are quite vocal . As for Xion fans hating Axel , i've seen plenty.It's very annoying too. Especially because they hate any criticism on Xion so they deflect it by blaming Axel .

Edited August 6, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Whimsy-Mimsy 99]

The thing is - it's not exactly just Axel fans who hate on Xion .. I never hated her character and felt more nuetral.. There are tons of Xion fans who hate on Axel too . You just cannot make everyone happy

 

Oh, I didn't mean that it's only Axel-fans that hate on Xion, it just seems like the vast majority of the people who hate on Xion don't have a reason beyond 'Axel's better'. I know there can be sensible Axel fans, don't worry!

[Tails 6,692]

But in the end Xion is still a plot device.

[Dracozombie 4,554]

 

You can blame some of the Xion haters on those who support Axel and Roxas as a couple . They are quite vocal . As for Xion fans hating Axel , i've seen plenty.It's very annoying too. Especially because they hate any criticism on Xion so they deflect it by blaming Axel .

 

You gotta show me some examples. o.o I'm racking my brain here and I've realized I've never, not once, ever seen anyone outright hate Axel aside from people who hate KH in general.  Maybe they just don't hang around KH13, fanfiction.net, or deviantArt (my three main hubs for my KH exposure) so I just don't see them.  I'm honestly curious about what they say.  I mean, I can almost guarantee it's stupid, but I have a morbid curiosity that'll make me regret looking at all.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

You gotta show me some examples. o.o I'm racking my brain here and I've realized I've never, not once, ever seen anyone outright hate Axel aside from people who hate KH in general.  Maybe they just don't hang around KH13, fanfiction.net, or deviantArt (my three main hubs for my KH exposure) so I just don't see them.  I'm honestly curious about what they say.  I mean, I can almost guarantee it's stupid, but I have a morbid curiosity that'll make me regret looking at all.

Well you should try hanging around Gamefaqs sometimes- or not . LOL  You will regret it . Ask Winner . As for around here ,I see it mostly with when Xion lovers are defending Xion against the many attacks on her as a character . It's the first thing that happens every time they defend Xion . They talk shit about Axel which is why the hypocracy annoys me.I don't visit deviantart or fanfiction.net though.

[Demyx. 10,064]

I had things to say. But Lea pretty much got it covered.

 

Just wanted to say. I don't hate Xion. Just indifferent towards her. But I feel like the way she handled things was annoying. Axel seem to deal with the situation in a better way. Trying to save both his friends and what not. I don't think it was wrong for him to keep the information from them. Some of it maybe. But most of it no. There was no point in telling them really. It would just get em all worked up.

Edited August 6, 2013 by Megaman X

[Dracozombie 4,554]

I had things to say. But Lea pretty much got it covered.

 

Just wanted to say. I don't hate Xion. Just indifferent towards her. But I feel like the way she handled things was annoying. Axel seem to deal with the situation in a better way. Trying to save both his friends and what not. I don't think it was wrong for him to keep the information from them. Some of it maybe. But most of it no. There was no point in telling them really. It would just get em all worked up.

 

Relatively speaking, I agree that Axel handled the situation the best, but that doesn't mean it improved by what he did.  It was an ugly situation overall and there was no way it could've ended well.  Even if telling them would've just gotten them worked up, it doesn't mean Roxas and Xion had no right to know the truth.  Since it affects them directly, more than Axel, shouldn't it be up to them to judge?  But like I said, it's an ugly situation and there was little anyone could've done to affect the outcome.  I'm just trying to give Xion some breathing room.  I still say for all the Axel bashers, there are three times as many Xion bashers and I like sticking up for the underdog every once in a while.

[Demyx. 10,064]

Relatively speaking, I agree that Axel handled the situation the best, but that doesn't mean it improved by what he did.  It was an ugly situation overall and there was no way it could've ended well.  Even if telling them would've just gotten them worked up, it doesn't mean Roxas and Xion had no right to know the truth.  Since it affects them directly, more than Axel, shouldn't it be up to them to judge?  But like I said, it's an ugly situation and there was little anyone could've done to affect the outcome.  I'm just trying to give Xion some breathing room.  I still say for all the Axel bashers, there are three times as many Xion bashers and I like sticking up for the underdog every once in a while.

It's probably because Xion fans can be so annoying.

 

P.S. Also because she is pointless.

Edited August 6, 2013 by Megaman X

[Dracozombie 4,554]

It's probably because Xion fans can be so annoying.

 

P.S. Also because she is pointless.

 

Any fan of anything can be annoying in the proper circumstances, e.g. having access to the internet.

 

NO U

[Demyx. 10,064]

Any fan of anything can be annoying in the proper circumstances, e.g. having access to the internet.

 

NO U

But they don't admit that she didn't need to be there in the first place!

[Dracozombie 4,554]

But they don't admit that she didn't need to be there in the first place!

 

Doesn't mean she's not a welcome addition for some people out there.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Relatively speaking, I agree that Axel handled the situation the best, but that doesn't mean it improved by what he did.  It was an ugly situation overall and there was no way it could've ended well.  Even if telling them would've just gotten them worked up, it doesn't mean Roxas and Xion had no right to know the truth.  Since it affects them directly, more than Axel, shouldn't it be up to them to judge?  But like I said, it's an ugly situation and there was little anyone could've done to affect the outcome.  I'm just trying to give Xion some breathing room.  I still say for all the Axel bashers, there are three times as many Xion bashers and I like sticking up for the underdog every once in a while.

 Well that's bc Xion is a very polarizing character in this fanbase. We all know this