North Americans complain about Japan getting everything...but the reality is....

[Sora96 17,256]

The reality is, North Americans shouldn't complain. They get plenty of good stuff that Australians and Europeans don't get. 

 

In Kingdom Hearts terms:

 

There was a lengthy wait for Kingdom Hearts & Kingdom Hearts II to be released in PAL regions after the NTSC release.

 

About two months between the NTSC and PAL release of KH. 

 

There was a SIX month wait between KH2 being released in NA and PAL regions. Yes, six months, half a year. What a firetrucking joke! And you North Americans complain about having to wait a couple of months for the English version of Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII to be released.

 

The English version of Re:Chain of Memories was exclusive to North America. We never got it. We missed out on an actual game.

 

The Birth by Sleep PSP bundle. Only $200 for a limited edition BBS themed PSP 3000, copy of BBS & 4 GB memory stick. They expected Australians and Europeans to purchase them all separately and the limited edition PSP wasn't available. In total that cost Australians & Europeans an extra $100.

 

Not to mention all the pre-order bonuses they've had over the years such as the KH3D AR cards.

 

And now North Americans get a few PS3 themes from pre-ordering HD 1.5 ReMIX.

 

 

So North Americans, don't go crying to me about only the Japanese getting things. 

[Sora 2,184]

Darn us arrogant North Americans

[HikariYami 354]

Well, until releases are universal...

I mean if you really want it, then import.

But we can all agree Japan has it made. Oh well, although I know Japanese and can import, I can wait.

[Sora96 17,256]

Well, until releases are universal...I mean if you really want it, then import.But we can all agree Japan has it made. Oh well, although I know Japanese and can import, I can wait.

 

Importing has nothing to do with this.

[Terranort9406 288]

agree but is not that bad, what matters is the game, I know that you cant get re:chain of memories in that time but now its coming in HD 1.5 ReMIX.

[WhiteCrow 55]

Word! Though I'm from Europe.

[HikariYami 354]

Importing has nothing to do with this.

You were talking about all the stuff North America gets, so if you really wanted that stuff you can import if that is not a problem. I was just saying.

But, everyone is unhappy with release stuff. Americans get more content, so they make Final Mixes. Americans complain about Final Mix, so we get bonuses. The rest of the world complains... It is a circle of unhappiness. However, you have to look at the supply and demand for KH in that region. 

Let's look at the orginal Kingdom Hearts sales

 

As of July 20, 2013 it has sold 5.85 million

North Americans make up the largest portion of sales approximately 62.3%

Europe is second 20.4%

Japan is third 16.1%

Everyone else is last at 1.2%

 

Who do you think they are going to rake in the most money? They need to keep those fans, so they please them. 

But, you have to look at the proportions in regions. 

 

North American purchasers would vastly comprise of Canadians and Americans(USA), maybe Mexico. 

On top of that, the value of JNP yen has vastly decreased while the dollar is still worth more. Therefore if they sale more in NA, they will increase profit margins because the dollar would be worth much more in the whole Square Enix Inc. or whatever they are called. They will do whatever it takes to increase sales in North America. 

However, European area compromises a lot of area, and it making only 20% percent of sales is great. Square Enix pleases those people will provided them with the bare minimum (the game) so they would not lose profit. 

Japan has the highest ratios of concentrated sales approximately 1 million people have bought KH in Japan. Simplified fraction form 1/127

That is pretty good. 

 

That is my business logic on why North Americans get a lot of stuff, but not why they complain.

[Sora96 17,256]

agree but is not that bad, what matters is the game, I know that you cant get re:chain of memories in that time but now its coming in HD 1.5 ReMIX.

 

Yes, but I would have loved to have played it on the PS2 and in 2008/09 for that matter.

 

 

You were talking about all the stuff North America gets, so if you really wanted that stuff you can import if that is not a problem. I was just saying.

But, everyone is unhappy with release stuff. Americans get more content, so they make Final Mixes. Americans complain about Final Mix, so we get bonuses. The rest of the world complains... It is a circle of unhappiness. However, you have to look at the supply and demand for KH in that region. 

Let's look at the orginal Kingdom Hearts sales

 

As of July 20, 2013 it has sold 5.85 million

North Americans make up the largest portion of sales approximately 62.3%

Europe is second 20.4%

Japan is third 16.1%

Everyone else is last at 1.2%

 

Who do you think they are going to rake in the most money? They need to keep those fans, so they please them. 

But, you have to look at the proportions in regions. 

 

North American purchasers would vastly comprise of Canadians and Americans(USA), maybe Mexico. 

On top of that, the value of JNP yen has vastly decreased while the dollar is still worth more. Therefore if they sale more in NA, they will increase profit margins because the dollar would be worth much more in the whole Square Enix Inc. or whatever they are called. They will do whatever it takes to increase sales in North America. 

However, European area compromises a lot of area, and it making only 20% percent of sales is great. Square Enix pleases those people will provided them with the bare minimum (the game) so they would not lose profit. 

Japan has the highest ratios of concentrated sales approximately 1 million people have bought KH in Japan. Simplified fraction form 1/127

That is pretty good. 

 

That is my business logic on why North Americans get a lot of stuff, but not why they complain.

 

You can only import the games if you can play PS2 games from other regions which costs money. Who wants to pay $50 or $100 just so that they can import a game or two. The PSP Bundle couldn't be imported. 

 

My point is that North Americans shouldn't complain about what Japan has when they have stuff other countries don't.

[panosgate7 52]

The reality is, North Americans shouldn't complain. They get plenty of good stuff that Australians and Europeans don't get. 

 

In Kingdom Hearts terms:

 

There was a lengthy wait for Kingdom Hearts & Kingdom Hearts II to be released in PAL regions after the NTSC release.

 

About two months between the NTSC and PAL release of KH. 

 

There was a SIX month wait between KH2 being released in NA and PAL regions. Yes, six months, half a year. What a firetrucking joke! And you North Americans complain about having to wait a couple of months for the English version of Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII to be released.

 

The English version of Re:Chain of Memories was exclusive to North America. We never got it. We missed out on an actual game.

 

The Birth by Sleep PSP bundle. Only $200 for a limited edition BBS themed PSP 3000, copy of BBS & 4 GB memory stick. They expected Australians and Europeans to purchase them all separately and the limited edition PSP wasn't available. In total that cost Australians & Europeans an extra $100.

 

Not to mention all the pre-order bonuses they've had over the years such as the KH3D AR cards.

 

And now North Americans get a few PS3 themes from pre-ordering HD 1.5 ReMIX.

 

 

So North Americans, don't go crying to me about only the Japanese getting things. 

Wait, we are not getting the Dynamic Theme with the Limited Edtition, only the artbook??? WTFFFFFFFF???(btw I live in Europe)

[Sora96 17,256]

Wait, we are not getting the Dynamic Theme with the Limited Edtition, only the artbook??? WTFFFFFFFF???(btw I live in Europe)

 

Yep, we only get the artbook.

[xxClouDxxmoon 901]

Dont we get a PS3 theme?

[Sora96 17,256]

Dont we get a PS3 theme?

 

Nope. 

[Oli 1,679]

Also, Dream Drop Distance wasn't released in Spain nor Italy. 

[jorrell3946 70]

I think we get all the good stuff with the special pre orders from KH Games not the other way around.

[xxClouDxxmoon 901]

Nope.

Well thats dissapointing.

[advfox 698]

If other regions complain hard enough, they can get what they want too.

[Tigerruss 576]

You were talking about all the stuff North America gets, so if you really wanted that stuff you can import if that is not a problem. I was just saying.But, everyone is unhappy with release stuff. Americans get more content, so they make Final Mixes. Americans complain about Final Mix, so we get bonuses. The rest of the world complains... It is a circle of unhappiness. However, you have to look at the supply and demand for KH in that region.Let's look at the orginal Kingdom Hearts salesAs of July 20, 2013 it has sold 5.85 millionNorth Americans make up the largest portion of sales approximately 62.3%Europe is second 20.4%Japan is third 16.1%Everyone else is last at 1.2%Who do you think they are going to rake in the most money? They need to keep those fans, so they please them.But, you have to look at the proportions in regions.North American purchasers would vastly comprise of Canadians and Americans(USA), maybe Mexico.On top of that, the value of JNP yen has vastly decreased while the dollar is still worth more. Therefore if they sale more in NA, they will increase profit margins because the dollar would be worth much more in the whole Square Enix Inc. or whatever they are called. They will do whatever it takes to increase sales in North America.However, European area compromises a lot of area, and it making only 20% percent of sales is great. Square Enix pleases those people will provided them with the bare minimum (the game) so they would not lose profit.Japan has the highest ratios of concentrated sales approximately 1 million people have bought KH in Japan. Simplified fraction form 1/127That is pretty good.That is my business logic on why North Americans get a lot of stuff, but not why they complain.

While I agree with most of what you said I have to point out something. While KH had more content when getting a NA release (probably EU got that same extra content), while KH II mostly got censoring and no added content. But I don't know about what happened to the handhelds. 

My point is that North Americans shouldn't complain about what Japan has when they have stuff other countries don't.

Honestly that line feels like you have a kid at a table that says "Dad, I am still hungry." The dad replies, "Child, there are starving children in Africa, you got some food don't complain." Yes, people whine and whine about FMs and what ever not coming to NA (which is soon getting rectified for PS3 owners), but saying one has no right to complain because EU is missing out on other things really does sound like that. If anything it gives EU more right to complain than NA, but it doesn't negate NA's right to complain. (Though if you were talking about people who complain about release dates, I take back all I said...)That being said, neither group can be really happy unless either everyone gets the same things, or we can learn to be content with what we have.

[SHAZOW 269]

Well to be all honest its Square Enix that wants the profit that is providing more stuff to North America. Like you said the USD is worth more than 1 yen.

 

$1 USD = 97.85 Japanese Yen

 

1 Japanese Yen = $0.010 USD

[Tigerruss 576]

Well to be all honest its Square Enix that wants the profit that is providing more stuff to North America. Like you said the USD is worth more than 1 yen.$1 USD = 97.85 Japanese Yen1 Japanese Yen = $0.010 USD

I just want to comment on this, yes the USD is worth more than the Yen, but games still cost more in Japan than the U.S.A.KH 1.5 costs $40 in the U.S.A., while it costs 6890 yen ($71.19) in Japan. And due to them having to pay money to localize it, their profit per game sold probably goes down even more. BUT a much greater quantity is sold in the NA region, simply because there are more people there than in Japan. (which can make it worth while) That being said I believe most EU countries pay more for new games than the U.S.A. and I can't remember if Canada does or not. (I know Canada is in the NA region)

[Vanitas_ 16]

Actually I just order the Japanese versions of games like the final mixes, patch them into english, and then play them... then I have the same thing as the Japanese, and therefore I still feel like I'm getting the upper hand....

[panosgate7 52]

Actually I just order the Japanese versions of games like the final mixes, patch them into english, and then play them... then I have the same thing as the Japanese, and therefore I still feel like I'm getting the upper hand....

[Rob 5,571]

But.....I never complained. Also, humans will always complain.

[Vanitas_ 16]

 

Lol!

But.....I never complained. Also, humans will always complain.

Japanese will complain about American games, Americans will complain about Japanese games, and then Europe will tag along and complain as well... it happens!