Cucco 1,907 Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) It's non canon because the manga is the true canon and grouped with BoG because of Toriyama. The movies has none of this. It's very easy to comprehend. written by different people=/=non canon Toriyama still oversaw the other films, and did designs. If Toriyama didn't want the movies to be canon he would have said so in BoG like how he did with GT. It's kind of like saying Star Wars VII is non canon because George Lucas has little involvement in it. Edited November 16, 2014 by Cucco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted November 16, 2014 written by different people=/=non canon Toriyama still oversaw the other films, and did designs. If Toriyama didn't want the movies to be canon he would have said so in BoG like how he did with GT. It's kind of like saying Star Wars VII is non canon because George Lucas has little involvement in it. Written by different people does mean its non canon, or else Dragon Ball SD or Episode Of Bardock would be canon, but they're clearly not. It doesn't matter if he oversaw anything. Mangaka, at least the ones that I know, always oversee movie projects just so the writers don't mess up their material. Other than that, there is no indication of Toriyama approving this projects as part of his official works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cucco 1,907 Posted November 16, 2014 Written by different people does mean its non canon, or else Dragon Ball SD or Episode Of Bardock would be canon, but they're clearly not. It doesn't matter if he oversaw anything. Mangaka, at least the ones that I know, always oversee movie projects just so the writers don't mess up their material. Other than that, there is no indication of Toriyama approving this projects as part of his official works. SD animations are never meant to be canon or taken seriously, that's the point of them. Either way, I imagine if he didn't want it to be canon he would have flat out said it like with GT and tried to remove it from the timeline like he did with GT in BoG. Also we're getting a new movie in a few months, anything is possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted November 16, 2014 SD animations are never meant to be canon or taken seriously, that's the point of them. Either way, I imagine if he didn't want it to be canon he would have flat out said it like with GT and tried to remove it from the timeline like he did with GT in BoG. Also we're getting a new movie in a few months, anything is possible. There's no reason to remove them because they were never in the canon to begin with. Now I'm going to end this conversation. We're done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Taeyeon 1,137 Posted November 16, 2014 ^ this post just made my night lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted November 16, 2014 You're just calling it non-canon without giving a legitimate reason and just saying anyone who does consider it canon is stupid. Toriyama called GT non-canon, but never the movies. Yeah, that too. He didn't call GT non-canon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) He didn't call GT non-canon. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5411 This is a message Toriyama left on the Dragon Box set for GT in Japan. He called GT a "side story", ergo, not canon. Edited November 16, 2014 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Nothing to see here... Edited November 17, 2014 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted November 20, 2014 http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/11/20/db30years-special-dragon-ball-30th-anniversary-magazine/ Kaszenshuu.com has put together a special magazine for the series' 30th anniversary! Check it out if you can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
