Reyn 1,755 Posted July 3, 2013 All Square Enix has said on this for now is that "Something very mysterious has happened to Hope..." This doesn't make any sense. He is still the mature person he was in XIII-2, he's just in his FF XIII-1 body. I get the feeling maybe Lumina has something to do with this. Maybe she cursed him for trying to help Lightning or something.... 2 Marth and Imoore4 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,692 Posted July 3, 2013 We'll just have to see when the game comes out. 1 Terranort9406 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_eternal_nothing 586 Posted July 3, 2013 Lol firteen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) All Square Enix has said on this for now is that "Something very mysterious has happened to Hope..." This doesn't make any sense. He is still the mature person he was in XIII-2, he's just in his FF XIII-1 body. I get the feeling maybe Lumina has something to do with this. Maybe she cursed him for trying to help Lightning or something.... Actually his young XIII-1 appearance makes more sense than his Adult look in XIII-2 If you think about it,not that much time passed after the fall of Cocoon(I think maybe 2 or 3 years)And the adult hope from XIII-2 that Serah and Noel met was from a different timeline(I think he's almost 23 years old in the future they met him in).So when Caius destroyed the timeline and turned Gran Pulse into Nova Chrysallia,time has stopped and Hope appeared again but as his real young form,as of how he knew about what happened with Serah and Noel....That is what I want the game to answer Edited July 3, 2013 by Metal Snake 2 Reyn and Marth reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted July 3, 2013 Actually his young XIII-1 appearance makes more sense than his Adult look in XIII-2 If you think about it,not that much time passed after the fall of Cocoon(I think maybe 2 or 3 years)And the adult hope from XIII-2 that Serah and Noel met was from a different timeline(I think he's almost 23 years old in the future they met him in).So when Caius destroyed the timeline and turned Gran Pulse into Nova Chrysallia,time has stopped and Hope appeared again but as his real young form,as of how he knew about what happened with Serah and Noel....That is what I want the game to answer Well yes, it was only 3 years since Cocoon fell by the time XIII-2 takes place. Wait, but how was he from a different timeline? I don't get it. When we met Hope in XIII-2 as his adult self, that was STILL the same timeline in which Etro stepped in and warped it by saving Lightning and her friends in XIII. Just because the timeline was destroyed, it only affected the fact that no one could age or have newborns[spoiler[(for some strange reason, maybe time stopping stops the sperm from reaching the egg or something? Thats just weird) . I don't know. Im guessing that maybe Lumina did something to Hope, or will do something to him in the game to make him younger and more helpless. At least he won't be as annoying as his XIII, since he still has the mind of his adult self. And if your theory is true, and this is the real hope, maybe he found out from Snow and Noel, before they went their seperate ways and became how they are in LR FF XIII. Lol firteen Yeah, he's 14 again. Instead of 17 like he was in XIII-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 3, 2013 Well yes, it was only 3 years since Cocoon fell by the time XIII-2 takes place. Wait, but how was he from a different timeline? I don't get it. When we met Hope in XIII-2 as his adult self, that was STILL the same timeline in which Etro stepped in and warped it by saving Lightning and her friends in XIII. Just because the timeline was destroyed, it only affected the fact that no one could age or have newborns[spoiler[(for some strange reason, maybe time stopping stops the sperm from reaching the egg or something? Thats just weird) . I don't know. Im guessing that maybe Lumina did something to Hope, or will do something to him in the game to make him younger and more helpless. At least he won't be as annoying as his XIII, since he still has the mind of his adult self. And if your theory is true, and this is the real hope, maybe he found out from Snow and Noel, before they went their seperate ways and became how they are in LR FF XIII. He said it when you meet him in the Yachas Massif in XIII-2 that he's from another timeline(If I remember correctly),and It took him a long time to become the leader of his own research unit,so I'm sure the one in LRFFXIII is the real hope. Speaking of Hope in XIII,I swear to God I wanted to KILL HIM during the first 7 chapters,hoooooly shit his pussiness and bitchiness is beyond belief during those chapters.He's like one of those cowardly rich boys in anime who blames it on everything but himself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_eternal_nothing 586 Posted July 3, 2013 Well yes, it was only 3 years since Cocoon fell by the time XIII-2 takes place. Wait, but how was he from a different timeline? I don't get it. When we met Hope in XIII-2 as his adult self, that was STILL the same timeline in which Etro stepped in and warped it by saving Lightning and her friends in XIII. Just because the timeline was destroyed, it only affected the fact that no one could age or have newborns[spoiler[(for some strange reason, maybe time stopping stops the sperm from reaching the egg or something? Thats just weird) . I don't know. Im guessing that maybe Lumina did something to Hope, or will do something to him in the game to make him younger and more helpless. At least he won't be as annoying as his XIII, since he still has the mind of his adult self. And if your theory is true, and this is the real hope, maybe he found out from Snow and Noel, before they went their seperate ways and became how they are in LR FF XIII. Yeah, he's 14 again. Instead of 17 like he was in XIII-2. im just laughing at the way he says 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted July 3, 2013 He said it when you meet him in the Yachas Massif in XIII-2 that he's from another timeline(If I remember correctly),and It took him a long time to become the leader of his own research unit,so I'm sure the one in LRFFXIII is the real hope. Speaking of Hope in XIII,I swear to God I wanted to KILL HIM during the first 7 chapters,hoooooly shit his pussiness and bitchiness is beyond belief during those chapters.He's like one of those cowardly rich boys in anime who blames it on everything but himself O_O He said that??!! I don't remember that. I platinumed XIII-2 half a year ago, so you could be right, but im pretty sure he's not from another timeline. When Serah and Noel traveled into the future in XIII-2 it was always the same timeline that XIII took place, and which Etro warped it by saving Lightning and the cast from staying in Crystal Statis. When they fixed the paradoxes, it changed the timeline, BUT IT WAS STILL THE SAME TIMELINE. That's why up to the point before they went to defeat Caius, Noel's future still existed. Unless you mean that Hope in LR FF XIII is the one from THE ORIGINAL AND TRUE TIMELINE, in which Etro was never supposed to step in and free Lightning and her friends from Crystal statis? And he's not from the timeline in which Etro stepped in and helped Lightning, which resulted in XIII-2? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 3, 2013 O_O He said that??!! I don't remember that. I platinumed XIII-2 half a year ago, so you could be right, but im pretty sure he's not from another timeline. When Serah and Noel traveled into the future in XIII-2 it was always the same timeline that XIII took place, and which Etro warped it by saving Lightning and the cast from staying in Crystal Statis. When they fixed the paradoxes, it changed the timeline, BUT IT WAS STILL THE SAME TIMELINE. That's why up to the point before they went to defeat Caius, Noel's future still existed. Unless you mean that Hope in LR FF XIII is the one from THE ORIGINAL AND TRUE TIMELINE, in which Etro was never supposed to step in and free Lightning and her friends from Crystal statis? And he's not from the timeline in which Etro stepped in and helped Lightning, which resulted in XIII-2? Yeah it was after Cocoon's Fall but in the future not the same year as the ending of XIII,when you meet Hope at the Yachas Massif he's almost 23 Years old after he became the leader of the Academy research team,that's almost 6 or 8 years after XIII,He knew about Serah and Noel because of the Paradoxes he was observing. When the timeline got destroyed by Caius,Time completely stopped and most of timelines were erased thanks to Caius,and since people won't age in Nova Chrysallia,it's possible that Hope led the Academy again as his younger self because his future self was maybe a result of a time paradox because he was observing the timeline and travelling through time to build the City of Academia in preperation of Cocoon's seconf fall(at the end of the game). What I want to say is,the adult Hope is might be a result of a Time Paradox caused by Caius so when the timeline got destroyed,all Hope's future incarnations were deleted from history because there is no future because Time won't flow on what remained of the world all because of Caius,who wanted a world where Yeul won't experience the cycle of death and ressurection ever again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henne 150 Posted July 3, 2013 They just did it so that HopeXLightning will never happen, because that would be the end for everything. :ph34r: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingdomlanelover 494 Posted July 3, 2013 It's probably because Square got lazy and didn't want to make a new costume for him, kind of like what they did with young Sora in all of the Kingdom Hearts games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalReckoning 1,135 Posted July 3, 2013 xiii light returns will be epic, just hope they conclude it well and wierd stuff like this makes sense only thing i can think of is old hope freezing young hope for some reason by time travelling back and kid napping him, but imagine the paradox string O_O' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted July 4, 2013 Yeah it was after Cocoon's Fall but in the future not the same year as the ending of XIII,when you meet Hope at the Yachas Massif he's almost 23 Years old after he became the leader of the Academy research team,that's almost 6 or 8 years after XIII,He knew about Serah and Noel because of the Paradoxes he was observing. When the timeline got destroyed by Caius,Time completely stopped and most of timelines were erased thanks to Caius,and since people won't age in Nova Chrysallia,it's possible that Hope led the Academy again as his younger self because his future self was maybe a result of a time paradox because he was observing the timeline and travelling through time to build the City of Academia in preperation of Cocoon's seconf fall(at the end of the game). What I want to say is,the adult Hope is might be a result of a Time Paradox caused by Caius so when the timeline got destroyed,all Hope's future incarnations were deleted from history because there is no future because Time won't flow on what remained of the world all because of Caius,who wanted a world where Yeul won't experience the cycle of death and ressurection ever again Its 10 years after the ending of XIII when you meet Hope. I forgot about that. Thats why he's 24. That's possible that his older self was a paradox. I doubt it though. Caius did destroy most timelines, except for the one that has been occuring from XIII to now, the one we've been following this whole time, the one that was warped by Etro to begin with. The one XIII-2 takes place in, and leads in LR FF XIII. Adult Hope exists in that timeline, even if he observed the paradoxes, that doesn't make him a paradox. The timeline should've been fixed when the paradoxes were resolved, but it wasn't fixed, because Etro immediately died after that happened, and time was destroyed, not allowing the timeline to fix itself. Yeul won't experience the cycle of death and resurrection because Etro is dead, and the timelines are destroyed, not allowing for a real past or future. But, that doesn't mean that nothing will happen in the future of Nova Crystallia, hence where LR FF XIII takes place. But, if Adult Hope is a time paradox, wouldn't Noel also be a paradox? I mean, he's FROM A FUTURE THAT NO LONGER EXISTS, due to Serah and Noel resolving the paradoxes, and Caius destroying the rest. If that was true, NOEL SHOULDN'T BE IN NOVA CRYSTALLIA AT ALL. That's a pretty big plot hole. Not to mention, Snow wouldn't have been trapped in the coliseum like he was in XIII-2(If you played the DLC fights, it shows what happens to Snow in XIII-2). He would be as old as he was in XIII. Lightning's no exception either, she should be her XIII self too. Its a big plot hole, if that is what caused Hope to regress to his XIII-1 self, since everyone else would have NO MEMORIES of the warped timeline. I don't think this is the reason Hope got younger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 4, 2013 Its 10 years after the ending of XIII when you meet Hope. I forgot about that. Thats why he's 24. That's possible that his older self was a paradox. I doubt it though. Caius did destroy most timelines, except for the one that has been occuring from XIII to now, the one we've been following this whole time, the one that was warped by Etro to begin with. The one XIII-2 takes place in, and leads in LR FF XIII. Adult Hope exists in that timeline, even if he observed the paradoxes, that doesn't make him a paradox. The timeline should've been fixed when the paradoxes were resolved, but it wasn't fixed, because Etro immediately died after that happened, and time was destroyed, not allowing the timeline to fix itself. Yeul won't experience the cycle of death and resurrection because Etro is dead, and the timelines are destroyed, not allowing for a real past or future. But, that doesn't mean that nothing will happen in the future of Nova Crystallia, hence where LR FF XIII takes place. But, if Adult Hope is a time paradox, wouldn't Noel also be a paradox? I mean, he's FROM A FUTURE THAT NO LONGER EXISTS, due to Serah and Noel resolving the paradoxes, and Caius destroying the rest. If that was true, NOEL SHOULDN'T BE IN NOVA CRYSTALLIA AT ALL. That's a pretty big plot hole. Not to mention, Snow wouldn't have been trapped in the coliseum like he was in XIII-2(If you played the DLC fights, it shows what happens to Snow in XIII-2). He would be as old as he was in XIII. Lightning's no exception either, she should be her XIII self too. Its a big plot hole, if that is what caused Hope to regress to his XIII-1 self, since everyone else would have NO MEMORIES of the warped timeline. I don't think this is the reason Hope got younger. Mmmmm,this is actually getting more complicated than I thought....but that's how time travel story works I guess......anything is better than Sonic 06 time travel.I just hope they would fix some of the glaring plotholes like the young Hope.As for Snow's DLC,I hadn't finished it yet because Snow is OVERPOWERED AS HELL.....but I might end up watching it on youtube. Anyway,I guess we have to wait for an official word from Square on that when they release a new trailer and update the official site of the game But I need to say one thing:I hope this is the last time Square would do a time travel plot in FF. The plot of FFVIII was an absolute shit(The ending pretty much makes the entire game an endlessly looping Paradox when Squall tells Edea to build SeeD and become the sorceress AGAIN).They still can fix all of the plot holes in XIII-2 easily if they take their time writing the story.Because it they created more plotholes in LRFFXIII,then the entire plot of the XIII trilogy would collapse completely......speaking of that....what does the plot of XIII contribute to ANYTHING happening now other than Etro's waking Lightning and the others from their Crystal sleep???What do any of the Fal'cie play any role in XIII-2 other than the proto Fal'cie and the one that made Snow a L'cie again????Did we really needed to know what Dysley planned with Cocoon's destruction if it won't mean a damn thing to Caius's plan,seriously Dysley wants Cocoon to fall so he can sacrifice the soul of it's people to summon Lindzei(The maker of Cocoon)and open the door of souls(Which leads to Vallhala),is Dysley even aware about Vallhala at that point???Do any of the Fal'cie knows about Caius,you know,the guardian of the Goddess that created them????And what bugs me,if everyone now on Gran Pulse after Cocoon's fall can use magic because of Crystal fumes,then why all the racism towards L'cie was nessesary in the plot of XIII,and what's the point of being a L'cie other than getting a summon(a.k.a Summoner Class) now??? What do any of the PulseSanctum Fal'cie contribute ANYTHING in the plot so far???None of the Fal'cie matters to the great scheme of the main Villan(Which is Caius) or to any of future events other than throwing more Cie'ths on your face to fight or making Snow a L'cie again....TWICE(Yep,I heard he's been branded by a fal'cie other than the one who branded him in 13-2).And most importantly,if the Fal'cie can talk.WHY IN THE F.UCK DO THEY NEED TO CONVEY THEIR FOCUS IN HAZEY DREAMS???THEY CAN JUST GIVE THEM A FALSE FOCUS,TELL THEM TO KILL ORPHAN BY SAYING HE'S THE ENEMY,AND BAAAM COCOON IS OVER.I feel that XIII-1 in terms of plot was absolutely pointless,they could've just renamed XIII-2 into XIII and make the original XIII a prequel back in 2010.Hoooly shit so many questions that needs to be answered and they need to answer ALL OF THEM,not some,not many,ALL OF THEM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted July 4, 2013 Mmmmm,this is actually getting more complicated than I thought....but that's how time travel story works I guess......anything is better than Sonic 06 time travel.I just hope they would fix some of the glaring plotholes like the young Hope.As for Snow's DLC,I hadn't finished it yet because Snow is OVERPOWERED AS HELL.....but I might end up watching it on youtube. Anyway,I guess we have to wait for an official word from Square on that when they release a new trailer and update the official site of the game But I need to say one thing:I hope this is the last time Square would do a time travel plot in FF. The plot of FFVIII was an absolute shit(The ending pretty much makes the entire game an endlessly looping Paradox when Squall tells Edea to build SeeD and become the sorceress AGAIN).They still can fix all of the plot holes in XIII-2 easily if they take their time writing the story.Because it they created more plotholes in LRFFXIII,then the entire plot of the XIII trilogy would collapse completely......speaking of that....what does the plot of XIII contribute to ANYTHING happening now other than Etro's waking Lightning and the others from their Crystal sleep???What do any of the Fal'cie play any role in XIII-2 other than the proto Fal'cie and the one that made Snow a L'cie again????Did we really needed to know what Dysley planned with Cocoon's destruction if it won't mean a damn thing to Caius's plan,seriously Dysley wants Cocoon to fall so he can sacrifice the soul of it's people to summon Lindzei(The maker of Cocoon)and open the door of souls(Which leads to Vallhala),is Dysley even aware about Vallhala at that point???Do any of the Fal'cie knows about Caius,you know,the guardian of the Goddess that created them????And what bugs me,if everyone now on Gran Pulse after Cocoon's fall can use magic because of Crystal fumes,then why all the racism towards L'cie was nessesary in the plot of XIII,and what's the point of being a L'cie other than getting a summon(a.k.a Summoner Class) now??? What do any of the PulseSanctum Fal'cie contribute ANYTHING in the plot so far???None of the Fal'cie matters to the great scheme of the main Villan(Which is Caius) or to any of future events other than throwing more Cie'ths on your face to fight or making Snow a L'cie again....TWICE(Yep,I heard he's been branded by a fal'cie other than the one who branded him in 13-2).And most importantly,if the Fal'cie can talk.WHY IN THE F.UCK DO THEY NEED TO CONVEY THEIR FOCUS IN HAZEY DREAMS???THEY CAN JUST GIVE THEM A FALSE FOCUS,TELL THEM TO KILL ORPHAN BY SAYING HE'S THE ENEMY,AND BAAAM COCOON IS OVER.I feel that XIII-1 in terms of plot was absolutely pointless,they could've just renamed XIII-2 into XIII and make the original XIII a prequel back in 2010.Hoooly shit so many questions that needs to be answered and they need to answer ALL OF THEM,not some,not many,ALL OF THEM If you're having that hard of a time defeating Snow in the DLC, just grind with Serah and Noel and get all the other trophies if you havent already. I recommend just trying to platinum the game, all the sidequests and everything(like fighting those 4 monsters in Archllyte steppe, and fighting Raspatil in Oerba 400 AF will help you with your level ups) is bound to max you out and make you OP enough to defeat Snow. The strongest weapons in the game are the Odin weapons, as long as you have most of the Fragments. It makes every other boss so easy, because you're so Overpowered with those weapons. One of those weapons you get from Hope, and another you have to buy in Serendipity(i think i could be wrong though, you should look it up). But back to the subject. First off, Lightning and the cast already fought Linzei in XIII. Square said that the female half of Orphan that you fight in XIII, IS LINZEI. Dysley being defeated summoned her, if you can believe it. Second, Dysley wanted Cocoon to fall, so the maker would return. Linzei ISN'T THE MAKER DYSLEY WAS TALKING ABOUT. If you researched the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythology, you would know that BHUNIVELZE IS THE TRUE MAKER OF THE FF XIII WORLD, not just cocoon. He went into a deep sleep, and created the Fal'cie to find Etro's gate, and if they did, he would awake. Dysley somehow knew about Etro's gate, and that it is the portal that lets the souls of people who've died into Valhalla. So, he wanted Cocoon to fall, and the gate would have to open hugely in order to let the huge amount of souls that died from Cocoon's fall into valhalla, thus revealing itself, and awakening Bhunivelze. But the gate had ANOTHER PURPOSE. It was what was keeping the chaos inside Valhalla FROM SPREADING INTO THE MORTAL WORLD. Etro guarded the gate, so the chaos wouldn't escape and seep in. But, when the timeline was warped by Etro, some chaos did seep into the mortal world, so Etro had to recall it back into Valhalla. But Lightning was surrounded by the chaos, and when Etro called back the chaos, she called back Lightning too who was trapped by it. So thats how that happened. When Etro died, there was no one left to stop the Chaos from exiting the gate and infecting the mortal world. So the gate revealed itself, and the chaos from Etro's gate was released. So, Bhunivelze awoke, and now he appoints Lightning to guide the souls of Nova crystallia into the new world. THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF THE PLOT OF FF XIII. As for why there isn't chaos in Noel's world due to cocoon's fall, thats because if the gate opened to let souls in, it wouldn't let the chaos out, because Etro was still alive and not dead. So that questions been answered, on why Dysley wanted Cocoon to fall. But yes Time travel is just too confusing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) If you're having that hard of a time defeating Snow in the DLC, just grind with Serah and Noel and get all the other trophies if you havent already. I recommend just trying to platinum the game, all the sidequests and everything(like fighting those 4 monsters in Archllyte steppe, and fighting Raspatil in Oerba 400 AF will help you with your level ups) is bound to max you out and make you OP enough to defeat Snow. The strongest weapons in the game are the Odin weapons, as long as you have most of the Fragments. It makes every other boss so easy, because you're so Overpowered with those weapons. One of those weapons you get from Hope, and another you have to buy in Serendipity(i think i could be wrong though, you should look it up). But back to the subject. First off, Lightning and the cast already fought Linzei in XIII. Square said that the female half of Orphan that you fight in XIII, IS LINZEI. Dysley being defeated summoned her, if you can believe it. Second, Dysley wanted Cocoon to fall, so the maker would return. Linzei ISN'T THE MAKER DYSLEY WAS TALKING ABOUT. If you researched the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythology, you would know that BHUNIVELZE IS THE TRUE MAKER OF THE FF XIII WORLD, not just cocoon. He went into a deep sleep, and created the Fal'cie to find Etro's gate, and if they did, he would awake. Dysley somehow knew about Etro's gate, and that it is the portal that lets the souls of people who've died into Valhalla. So, he wanted Cocoon to fall, and the gate would have to open hugely in order to let the huge amount of souls that died from Cocoon's fall into valhalla, thus revealing itself, and awakening Bhunivelze. But the gate had ANOTHER PURPOSE. It was what was keeping the chaos inside Valhalla FROM SPREADING INTO THE MORTAL WORLD. Etro guarded the gate, so the chaos wouldn't escape and seep in. But, when the timeline was warped by Etro, some chaos did seep into the mortal world, so Etro had to recall it back into Valhalla. But Lightning was surrounded by the chaos, and when Etro called back the chaos, she called back Lightning too who was trapped by it. So thats how that happened. When Etro died, there was no one left to stop the Chaos from exiting the gate and infecting the mortal world. So the gate revealed itself, and the chaos from Etro's gate was released. So, Bhunivelze awoke, and now he appoints Lightning to guide the souls of Nova crystallia into the new world. THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF THE PLOT OF FF XIII. As for why there isn't chaos in Noel's world due to cocoon's fall, thats because if the gate opened to let souls in, it wouldn't let the chaos out, because Etro was still alive and not dead. So that questions been answered, on why Dysley wanted Cocoon to fall. But yes Time travel is just too confusing. As for grinding,I've already maxed both Serah and Noel with some of my monsters...and it's still hard + Sorry,I meant Bhunivelze but my memory was kinda fuzzy about his name so I mistakenly said Lindzei It's been a while since I've played XIII or XIII-2 so I apologies for some errors I unintentionally make I'll replay both later in November or December .....And I'll try to watch the cutscenes of XIII again as it's the only thing that eases the journey through the monotonous Hallway Edited July 4, 2013 by Metal Snake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted July 4, 2013 We'll wait and see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taeyeon 1,137 Posted July 4, 2013 Well it does sounds a bit odd to say the least...I guess we'll just wait until the game comes out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted July 4, 2013 As for grinding,I've already maxed both Serah and Noel with some of my monsters...and it's still hard + Sorry,I meant Bhunivelze but my memory was kinda fuzzy about his name so I mistakenly said Lindzei It's been a while since I've played XIII or XIII-2 so I apologies for some errors I unintentionally make I'll replay both later in November or December .....And I'll try to watch the cutscenes of XIII again as it's the only thing that eases the journey through the monotonous Hallway You need a SYNERGIST MONSTER THAT CAN GIVE YOU OFFENSE AND DEFENSE BUFFS. I recommend searching for Purple chocobo, its the best. Its ok, everyone makes mistakes. Also, i recommend just searching for the FF XIII The Movie on Youtube. It has all the cutscenes from the game, compiled into kinda like a movie. But anyway BACK ON TOPIC. Im guessing that Lumina did something to Hope to make him younger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) You need a SYNERGIST MONSTER THAT CAN GIVE YOU OFFENSE AND DEFENSE BUFFS. I recommend searching for Purple chocobo, its the best. Its ok, everyone makes mistakes. Also, i recommend just searching for the FF XIII The Movie on Youtube. It has all the cutscenes from the game, compiled into kinda like a movie. But anyway BACK ON TOPIC. Im guessing that Lumina did something to Hope to make him younger. I have Sazh (Got it from the Serendipity DLC) as a syngergist so I might level him up a bit. + As for Lumina,I have a theory about her and I don't know if it's correct or not. Since Lumina looks almost exactly like Serah,then,What if Lumina was actually a reincarnated Serah that got ressurected by one of the gods mentioned in the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythology??? Serah has became a Seeress shortly before the ending of XIII-2 and like Yeul she might experience a cycle of Death and Revival by the god who revive her.And if it isn't revived by one of the gods,they she might got revived by Caius himself to stand in Lightning's way and corrupt the people around her,which would explain the chaos powers she uses. If Toriyama still has a brain,then he HAS to make Caius the main villian.Caius didn't die,and I bet you unlocked the secret ending so I'm sure you know how he enguled Gran Pulse in Chaos and turned it into Nova Chrysallia.When I saw "new deity" in the description of LRFFXIII I got really worried.What other deity that wants the world destroyed than Caius himself who destroyed the FREAKIN HISTORY??? It won't make any sense whatsoever if the antagonist of LRFFXIII isn't Caius Ballad Edited July 4, 2013 by Metal Snake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taeyeon 1,137 Posted July 4, 2013 That's what I've been thinking also about, Serah being reincarnated into Lumina. It's going to be the theory I'm holding onto until the games comes out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrinceNoctis 1,011 Posted July 18, 2013 It's really weird that he's young again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites