KH3D Are ansem and xemnas alive or?

[opinion 83]

Are they from back in time?

[Geotrix 862]

I think when the whole darkness thing with Sora failed in DD all the incarnations of Xehanort plus saix and xigbar kinda just went away, they teleported, I dunno where maybe back to their own time zones? DDD confuses me anyway.

[Kurama 171]

I think they are dead but in DDD they were from different points in time, which is why they were able to be present with Master Xehanort.

[Caity 3,946]

The ones in KH3D were plucked from the timeline, for MX to be reformed they have to be dead and you can't have them all reviving once both are defeated otherwise we'd have seen 3 Axel's, 3 Isa's, 3 Braigs etc

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Time travel

 

Were the 13 Seekers of Darkness, who were meant to be in different times, gathered by transcending time with magic?

Nomura: Just as it says in the story, to transcend time one must ‘first’ discard their form. As a result of the actions of the Brown Robed Figure, they all were in a state where they had gained the power to transcend time. The Brown Robed Figure explains the facts. The thirteen were summoned at the same time, this time thanks to Young Xehanort who borrowed that power. However, apart from Young Xehanort, that does not mean that all the members transcended time.

— In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed?

Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, ‘The World That Never Was’, where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened.

 

 

 What about Xemnas and Ansem, essentially they weren’t inside anyone, was it due to circumstances of the worlds of sleep?

Nomura: First off, when Young Xehanort made contact with the Brown Robed Figure, that is to say, the Xehanort who called himself Ansem, his abilities were transferred to him. As a result of Master Xehanort tossing his physical body, he was able to exceed time, and this power was carried into the Brown Robed Figure. Thus when Young Xehanort made contact with him, he gained this power. Possessing this power. Young Xehanort functioned as a “portal”, summoning Xemnas and Ansem each time they appeared. That’s why Young Xehanort was there whenever they appeared. Additionally, when Sora and Riku dropped into the worlds of sleep, simultaneously Young Xehanort himself goes into the world of sleep.

[AntonioKHT 449]

The ones from KH3D were from the past. At the end of the game they got back to their timeline, but they are currently dead.

Xehanort will bring them back in some way not really known... But seeing how Xemnas has a existence of his own (Nobodies grow hearts) they are surely coming back

[KH4Real 749]

The ones from KH3D were from the past. At the end of the game they got back to their timeline, but they are currently dead.

Xehanort will bring them back in some way not really known... But seeing how Xemnas has a existence of his own (Nobodies grow hearts) they are surely coming back

They moved just to another place.

If they were gonig back to time so must be Lea. 

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

They moved just to another place.

If they were gonig back to time so must be Lea. 

 

No they went back to their own timelines as stated by MX before they left again . Secondly that also makes no sense what you mentioned about Lea bc he wasn't taken from the past . He's reformed in the present as Lea and human 

[AntonioKHT 449]

They moved just to another place.

If they were gonig back to time so must be Lea. 

I don't think so... Xehanort states they were out of time. Not that they were running away. They also had to come back where they came from, their respective timelines. To fufill the Time Travel "rules".

And Lea didn't have to come back in time. He existed in that present, different than Ansem and Xemnas (who are dead)

 

I hadn't noticed Flaming Lea's post... You beat me to it! 

Now I'm pretty sure i'm right

Edited July 2, 2013 by AntonioKHT

[mosokisa 93]

Wow, this thread was quite helpful, I had been thinking that Xemnas and the others just went somewhere else, not back to their timelines, but this actually makes more sense.

[BlazingSoul 130]

Ansem & Xemnas are "dead" and Terra & MX "do not exist" in KH 3D. Only Terranort will technically appear in KH 3, but I bet something will happen. Terranort is the fusion of Terra and MX, so that's why said those two dont exist anymore AS separate beings. As for Ansem and Xemnas, they are Terranort's Heartless and Nobody as you guys should obviously know. Since they were defeated, Terranort should return, but without them because a somebody cannot coexist with his heartless and nobody. Sora and Roxas is a different case though.

[opinion 83]

Ansem & Xemnas are "dead" and Terra & MX "do not exist" in KH 3D. Only Terranort will technically appear in KH 3, but I bet something will happen. Terranort is the fusion of Terra and MX, so that's why said those two dont exist anymore AS separate beings. As for Ansem and Xemnas, they are Terranort's Heartless and Nobody as you guys should obviously know. Since they were defeated, Terranort should return, but without them because a somebody cannot coexist with his heartless and nobody. Sora and Roxas is a different case though.

Shouldn't xehanort be back since they WERE defeated? At first I thought MX came back because of that but he came from the past?

[BlazingSoul 130]

Shouldn't xehanort be back since they WERE defeated? At first I thought MX came back because of that but he came from the past?

No, because Xemnas and Ansem were Terranort's Nobody and Heartless. If Xemnas and Ansem were of MX, then they would have looked as old and creepy as MX. All of the bad guys in KH3D were time jacked to the time of Sora and Riku exam. KH3D Villains:Ansem - Same one from KH 1 time periodXemnas, Isa, Braig - Same one from KH 2 time periodMX - Same one from BBS time periodyou catch the drift now? Terranort is also known as Xehanort by everyone EXCEPT the BBS trio, Braig, probably Isa, Eraqus, and Master Xehanort(the real one). In reality Terranort has no name, he was called Terranort by Kingdom Hearts fans. Terranort was called Xehanort in KH 2 because Terranort had a part of MX memory. Edited July 3, 2013 by BlazingSoul

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

No, because Xemnas and Ansem were Terranort's Nobody and Heartless. If Xemnas and Ansem were of MX, then they would have looked as old and creepy as MX. All of the bad guys in KH3D were time jacked to the time of Sora and Riku exam.KH3D Villains:Ansem - Same one from KH 1 time periodXemnas, Isa, Braig - Same one from KH 2 time periodMX - Same one from BBS time periodyou catch the drift now?Terranort is also known as Xehanort by everyone EXCEPT the BBS trio, Braig, probably Isa, Eraqus, and Master Xehanort(the real one). In reality Terranort has no name, he was called Terranort by Kingdom Hearts fans. Terranort was called Xehanort in KH 2 because Terranort had a part of MX memory.

 

MX was NOT from the past . He and YMX even state he is his most 'future self' Why he's the old man and not 'Terranort' is a deliberate mystery according to Nomura. One could guess that either MX's heart was finally able to take control over Terra's heart completely and thus give Terra's body the appearance of the old man since the heart shapes the vessel or that Terra's heart escaped his body and MX's heart is left in control also giving him the appearance of the old man.

 

In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed?

Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, ‘The World That Never Was’, where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing

 

Also it's not confirmed whether Xigbar/Braig or Saix/Isa are from the past or the present although it appears that they are from the present since the conditions of reviving as human has been met :

Xigbar and Saix appeared as members of Organisation XIII. Did they return as humans like Lea and the others?

Nomura: The conditions of becoming a human have been met, so you’d think they had returned, wouldn’t you? For them to have been with Xehanort and the others, perhaps they were collected after they had become humans and before Lea and the others woke up. You could say the same for the members of Organisation XIII that didn’t appear in this title, however… I’d rather everyone use their imaginations.

[DJ369 183]

I have NO idea man.... Playing KH3D was just like smoking weed

[jorrell3946 70]

Yes i think they came back from the time they were still alive.

[PrinceNoctis 1,011]

Yeah. They are from the past.

[VeNate13 144]

Time travel

Were the 13 Seekers of Darkness, who were meant to be in different times, gathered by transcending time with magic?

Nomura: Just as it says in the story, to transcend time one must ‘first’ discard their form. As a result of the actions of the Brown Robed Figure, they all were in a state where they had gained the power to transcend time. The Brown Robed Figure explains the facts. The thirteen were summoned at the same time, this time thanks to Young Xehanort who borrowed that power. However, apart from Young Xehanort, that does not mean that all the members transcended time.

— In other words, Ansem and Xemnas were, at the same time, existing in the time and space of KH3D as well as having returned to their true human form after being destroyed?

Nomura: Yes, it does turn out that way. However, as I said before, ‘The World That Never Was’, where the thirteen all met, is a special space. The mechanics behind how they were all able to exist at the same time is a mystery. From KH1 on, Ansem has returned no matter how many times he has been defeated, perhaps the same sort of thing happened.

 

What about Xemnas and Ansem, essentially they weren’t inside anyone, was it due to circumstances of the worlds of sleep?

Nomura: First off, when Young Xehanort made contact with the Brown Robed Figure, that is to say, the Xehanort who called himself Ansem, his abilities were transferred to him. As a result of Master Xehanort tossing his physical body, he was able to exceed time, and this power was carried into the Brown Robed Figure. Thus when Young Xehanort made contact with him, he gained this power. Possessing this power. Young Xehanort functioned as a “portal”, summoning Xemnas and Ansem each time they appeared. That’s why Young Xehanort was there whenever they appeared. Additionally, when Sora and Riku dropped into the worlds of sleep, simultaneously Young Xehanort himself goes into the world of sleep.

This is very confusing. Where did you find this?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

This is very confusing. Where did you find this?

 

This is from the DDD Ultimania interview and the May 10th Famitsu interviews. All nomura's words