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[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I'm positive that I've heard something about the 7 lights and 13 darknesses. It was in the secret ending of KH 3D were Yen Sid explained that when Kingdom Hearts was swallowed in darkness the light of children rebuilt the world. Then after the X-blade shattered it's light divided into seven to protect the number of pure hearts (PoH). That's when I get confused when people start saying that the princesses are the fragments of the X-blade.

 

It's specifically said in that cutscene that the fragments are the PoH though and it explains further how the PoH or the GoL can be used in the clash so it makes the fight inevitable.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

It's specifically said in that cutscene that the fragments are the PoH though and it explains further how the PoH or the GoL can be used in the clash so it makes the fight inevitable.

Edited June 20, 2013 by devereauxr

[Daniel Black 1,981]

Mmmm... I don´t think so.... but as there is the 7 lights and the 7 hearts of pure light.... maybe hearts  of pure darkness? ....

[Helios X 6]

It's specifically said in that cutscene that the fragments are the PoH though and it explains further how the PoH or the GoL can be used in the clash so it makes the fight inevitable.

Yes, after Mickey's realization that the seven pure hearts of light are the princesses. Yen Sid proceeds to say that the princesses are the source of all light and if they are lost the world will then give way to darkness once more. Afterwards he explains that even if they don't find the GoL to avoid the clash between them and the SoD, Xehanort would target the princesses to forge the X-blade. Whether or not the princesses are the original fragments they can sereve as the pieces necessary to recreate the X-blade. This is my understanding. Edited June 20, 2013 by geocenter

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Yes, after Mickey's realization that the seven pure hearts of light are the princesses. Yen Sid proceeds to say that the princesses are the source of all light and if they are lost the world will then give way to darkness once more. Afterwards he explains that even if they don't find the GoL to avoid the clash between them and SoD, Xehanort would target the princesses to forge the X-blade. Whether or not the princesses are the original fragments they can sereve as the pieces necessary to recreate the X-blade.This is my understanding.

 

Yes either the PoH or the GoL can be used . However i'm confused on whether you are trying to say the fragments are the PoH or the GoL. That scene says they are the PoH. Or are you just agreeing me ? I'm confused .

[Helios X 6]

Yes either the PoH or the GoL can be used . However i'm confused on whether you are trying to say the fragments are the PoH or the GoL. That scene says they are the PoH. Or are you just agreeing me ? I'm confused .

All i'm saying is that Yen Sid said that the light of the X-blade divided itself into seven (GoL) to protect the number of pure hearts in the world (PoH). Yen Sid clearly said that GoL are the fragments of the X-blade that will protect the light of the children that I assume have become the pure hearts of the princesses.I agree with you that either would do to reforge the X-blade but I disagree that these fragments are the princesses.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

All i'm saying is that Yen Sid said that the light of the X-blade divided itself into seven (GoL) to protect the number of pure hearts in the world (PoH). Yen Sid clearly said that GoL are the fragments of the X-blade that will protect the light of the children that I assume have become the pure hearts of the princesses.

 

I agree with you that either would do to reforge the X-blade but I disagree that these fragments are the princesses.

 

Dude Yen Sid clearly says that the fragments became the 7 pure hearts that protect the world from basically falling to darkness.  Yen Sid :The light from the Xblade was split into 7 fragments to protect the light of the children with pure hearts. Mickey: They are the 7 princesses of hearts? Yen Sid : indeed .Those pure lights form all the light that is in the world and if they are lost the world would give way to darkness.So even if we avoid looking for the 7 guardians of light to avert another keyblade war xehanort will still target the 7 princesses to forge the keyblade"

 

He clearly states the fragments that are protecting the world from falling to darkness are the hearts of the PoH.

Edited June 20, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Helios X 6]

But also I've heard somewhere earlier in the game that the seven princesses of heart are the fragments. It was either another scene or a written report.

 

I'm also confused about this subject...

 

But from what I understood from the secret ending of KH 3D is that the fragments of the X-blade are the protectors, meaning guardians of light, of the pure hearts of light (princesses).

I didn't understood that he said that the princesses are the original fragments.

[Demyx. 10,064]

Dude Yen Sid clearly says that the fragments became the 7 pure hearts that protect the world from basically falling to darkness.  Yen Sid :The light from the Xblade was split into 7 fragments to protect the light of the children with pure hearts. Mickey: They are the 7 princesses of hearts? Yen Sid : indeed .Those pure lights form all the light that is in the world and if they are lost the world would give way to darkness.So even if we avoid looking for the 7 guardians of light to avert another keyblade war xehanort will still target the 7 princesses to forge the keyblade"

 

He clearly states the fragments that are protecting the world from falling to darkness are the hearts of the PoH.

 

Exactly.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Dude Yen Sid clearly says that the fragments became the 7 pure hearts that protect the world from basically falling to darkness. Yen Sid :The light from the Xblade was split into 7 fragments to protect the light of the children with pure hearts. Mickey: They are the 7 princesses of hearts? Yen Sid : indeed .Those pure lights form all the light that is in the world and if they are lost the world would give way to darkness.So even if we avoid looking for the 7 guardians of light to avert another keyblade war xehanort will still target the 7 princesses to forge the keyblade"He clearly states the fragments that are protecting the world from falling to darkness are the hearts of the PoH.

Exactly this is why Malificent needed the POH to open the door to darkness. It's Xehanort's way of forcing the clash either way. That's also why the world's give birth to seven guardians that are constantly replaced.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

But also I've heard somewhere earlier in the game that the seven princesses of heart are the fragments. It was either another scene or a written report.I'm also confused about this subject...But from what I understood from the secret ending of KH 3D is that the fragments of the X-blade are the protectors, meaning guardians of light, of the pure hearts of light (princesses).I didn't understood that he said that the princesses are the original fragments.

 

He said that the 7 fragments basically protect the world from falling to darkness and they are in the form of the PoH.That's where you are getting confused. However he is still refering to the pure hearts of light- the PoH. If a PoH was destroyed the world could fall to darkness . If a GoL was , they would simply be replaced.

Exactly this is why Malificent needed the POH to open the door to darkness. It's Xehanort's way of forcing the clash either way. That's also why the world's give birth to seven guardians that are constantly replaced.

 

Indeed !

[Helios X 6]

I don't want to start an argument and I get what all of you are saying. But just the part were Yen Sid says: "And the light from the broken X-blade was then divided into seven, to protect the number of pure hearts in the world." Makes me understand that the hearts of the princesses where already born when the x-blade's light divided into seven to protect the "number" of pure hearts in the world.

 

If I take that quote, the one that Yen Sid said , and use your logic it would sound like the fragments of the X-blade turned into the princesses of light to protect the princesses of light...

Edited June 20, 2013 by geocenter

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I don't want to start an argument and I get what all of you are saying. But just the part were Yen Sid says: "And the light from the broken X-blade was then divided into seven, to protect the number of pure hearts in the world." Makes me understand that the hearts of the princesses where already born when the x-blade's light divided into seven to protect the "number" of pure hearts in the world.

The number of pure hearts he is referring innocent children whose pure light remained after the world fell to oblivion reshaped the universe into it's current structure.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

The number of pure hearts he is referring innocent children whose pure light remained after the world fell to oblivion reshaped the universe into it's current structure.

 

Thank you! Exactly .

I don't want to start an argument and I get what all of you are saying. But just the part were Yen Sid says: "And the light from the broken X-blade was then divided into seven, to protect the number of pure hearts in the world." Makes me understand that the hearts of the princesses where already born when the x-blade's light divided into seven to protect the "number" of pure hearts in the world.

 

If I take that quote, the one that Yen Sid said , and use your logic it would sound like the fragments of the X-blade turned into the princesses of light to protect the princesses of light...

 

No we are saying that the PoH protect the world from falling to darkness and thats their job You seem to think that only the guardians of light protect things.Why do you think the PoH cannot be replaced but the GoL can ? If the GoL were the fragments they wouldn't be so easily replaceable.

Edited June 20, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Helios X 6]

Ok. What we will do is that we will leave it here. Thank you guys for all of your opinions. Greatly appreciate it. You now have given me another possible way to understand this subject. I will greatly consider what has been said in this forum.

Edited June 20, 2013 by geocenter

[Helios X 6]

Ok. The seven princesses of heart are the seven fragments of light from the shattered X-blade and the 7 guardians of light are their protectors which naturally appear to guard them in case of any threats. If any thing would happen to any of them the world would fall into darkness. And it seems that either of the groups could be used to forge the X-blade for Master Xehanort, right?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Ok. The seven princesses of heart are the seven fragments of light from the shattered X-blade and the 7 guardians of light are their protectors which naturally appear to guard them in case of any threats. If any thing would happen to any of them the world would fall into darkness. And it seems that either of the groups could be used to forge the X-blade for Master Xehanort, right?

 

Yes .According to xehanort and yen sid either group can  be used to forge the x-blade.

[Helios X 6]

I don't know, there is to much nonsense in these games. I will wait for Kingdom Hearts 3 to see what actually happens.

The reason I say that is non sense is that why would a group of people who are not pure lights and don't have the powers of the hearts of pure light have the ability to make the X-blade? Wouldn't that also endanger the princesses as well, since Xehanort could then use Kingdom Hearts to do what ever he wants? Unless more guardians appear I guess. In all cases the guardians should prevent the darknesses from reaching the light not to be a substitute.

 

There are many questions left unanswered, but I guess it up to Square Enix imagination to create the story.

[Helios X 6]

I don't know, there is to much nonsense in these games. I will wait for Kingdom Hearts 3 to see what actually happens.

The reason I say that is non sense is that why would a group of people who are not pure lights and don't have the powers of the hearts of pure light have the ability to make the X-blade? Wouldn't that also endanger the princesses as well, since Xehanort could then use Kingdom Hearts to do what ever he wants? Unless more guardians appear I guess. In all cases the guardians should prevent the darknesses from reaching the light not to be a substitute.

 

There are many questions left unanswered, but I guess it up to Square Enix imagination to create the story.

 

I guess the seven guardians could work just as the thirteen seekers of darkness who are not the original fragments of darkness of the X-blade. So long as each group is working from their respective sides light and dark.

Edited June 20, 2013 by geocenter

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I don't know, there is to much nonsense in these games. I will wait for Kingdom Hearts 3 to see what actually happens.

The reason I say that is non sense is that why would a group of people who are not pure lights and don't have the powers of the hearts of pure light have the ability to make the X-blade? Wouldn't that also endanger the princesses as well, since Xehanort could then use Kingdom Hearts to do what ever he wants? Unless more guardians appear I guess. In all cases the guardians should prevent the darknesses from reaching the light not to be a substitute.

 

There are many questions left unanswered, but I guess it up to Square Enix imagination to create the story.

 

Well why does Xehanort think he can manufacture the 13 darknesses? and use them instead of the never mentioned again 13 original darknesses?  It's the same logic behind why the GoL can be used even if they are not the original pure lights yet Yen Sid states that this is exactly whats the issue.

I guess the seven guardians could work just as the thirteen seekers of darkness who are not the original fragments of darkness of the X-blade. So long as each group is working from their respective sides light and dark.

 

yep.

[Helios X 6]

We both agree on that one. But I'm still not convinced of what any of you tried to persuade to believe about the PoH. I heard something else from that scene and if at the end i'm wrong then i'm wrong. But I won't change in what I believe just yet.

Edited June 20, 2013 by geocenter

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

We both agree on that one. But I'm still not convinced of what any of you tried to persuade to believe about the PoH. I heard something else from that scene and if at the end i'm wrong then i'm wrong. But I won't change in what I believe just yet.

 

I'm sure none of us care what you believe or don't believe . I don't know why you keep coming back to this thread 50 xs while you change your mind back and forth . We provided facts and the words of Yen Sid himself and it's even stated in other places that you yourself even claim to remember hearing ,so if you want to be in denial no ones stopping you .

Edited June 20, 2013 by Flaming Lea

[Helios X 6]

Ok.

[Demyx. 10,064]

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

 

 

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