Soratus37 25 Posted June 18, 2013 So if sora gives ventus his heart shouldn't sora loose the ability to use synch blade? I know he will still be able to wield one beacuse that one he earned form riku in KH1 but as for the other I don't know. Unless he uses eraqus keyblade which I don't think would happen most likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caity 3,946 Posted June 18, 2013 Yes, Sora will lose his ability to duel wield (and by associations Roxas would too) but i'm sure there'd be some Nomura logic applied (e.g. advanced powers/master skills/bonding hearts something) to be it so he's able it use it if they want to use it. 3 Robbie the Wise, nick11h and xBerserkerSaix07x reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted June 18, 2013 its possible that Ventus and Sora would share keyblades so they could both summon the same keyblade at the same time like how the Kingdom Key was omnipresent when both Roxas and Sora were using it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOfTheCastle 92 Posted June 18, 2013 I don't think Roxas would lose the ability to dual-wield. Doesn't Roxas use Sora's Kingdom Key and Xion's? 1 LeYenrz reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soratus37 25 Posted June 18, 2013 I don't think roxas should lose his ability to do it it's his trademark and makes him special i have a theory that he won't he was created from soras body and he got his keyblade and ventus heart the heart and the keyblade are tightly linked so I think that he will be able to retain ventus blade while vens using like sora and roxas in COM ir maybe roxas will get his own keyblade if he has grown his own heart!! But still roxas should keep the ability I don't think Roxas would lose the ability to dual-wield. Doesn't Roxas use Sora's Kingdom Key and Xion's? I think that her keyblade was unfortanley a copy of sora/roxas or since she was stealing roxas power she could have been using vens but due to her connection with sora it resembled kingdom key. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Columned-Munny 274 Posted June 18, 2013 I think it'd be cool if as some part of Sora's official training process he forged/made/found his own Keyblade, using it in addition to the Kingdom Key. It'd make the second Keyblade more personal and the task would make a suitable opening chapter from both a narrative and gameplay perspective; the first few hours are spent re-learning the gameplay mechanics as Sora is completing the final part of his training with Yen Sid, and the game opens up as he obtains his new Keyblade and the combat mechanics associated with dual-wielding. Or they could use the excuse of "it's a magic giant key, why wouldn't you want two of them!" to justify him having the ability and I'd be satisfied. 1 xBerserkerSaix07x reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 18, 2013 I don't think Roxas would lose the ability to dual-wield. Doesn't Roxas use Sora's Kingdom Key and Xion's? Roxas uses Sora's and Ven's . Xions was a replica and not real as stated in game and by Nomura . Xion's death however awakened the use of Ven's though bc of the emotional trauma . On topic yes he should lose it since it's one keyblade per heart of user unless Nomura decides to somehow retcon which he likes to do .I hope he doesn't tbh bc Sora doesn't even need it .Also , Roxas will prolly get a keyblade of his own and not need to borrow/use Vens and Soras 1 Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted June 18, 2013 No dual wielding please. K? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 18, 2013 its possible that Ventus and Sora would share keyblades so they could both summon the same keyblade at the same time like how the Kingdom Key was omnipresent when both Roxas and Sora were using it. The problem with this is they took turns like in CoM and Days when Sora and Roxas co-existed which is why Roxas would sometimes fall asleep and such .This occurred until Sora was put to slumber @ the end of CoM 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBerserkerSaix07x 125 Posted June 18, 2013 I think it'd be cool if as some part of Sora's official training process he forged/made/found his own Keyblade, using it in addition to the Kingdom Key. It'd make the second Keyblade more personal and the task would make a suitable opening chapter from both a narrative and gameplay perspective; the first few hours are spent re-learning the gameplay mechanics as Sora is completing the final part of his training with Yen Sid, and the game opens up as he obtains his new Keyblade and the combat mechanics associated with dual-wielding. Or they could use the excuse of "it's a magic giant key, why wouldn't you want two of them!" to justify him having the ability and I'd be satisfied. Cool ideas with making your own keyblade.Anyone else think that they should also change the way Riku and Sora hold their keyblades?If I remember correctly,Yen sid did tell them to forget what they knew. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted June 18, 2013 We'll see it in some form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adngo714 36 Posted June 19, 2013 I'm pretty sure that Sora's Keyblade in CoM was a memory itself, and Roxas used Sora's actual Keyblade. I believe that the memory Keyblade was stated to be a memory by Organization XIII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) I'm pretty sure that Sora's Keyblade in CoM was a memory itself, and Roxas used Sora's actual Keyblade. I believe that the memory Keyblade was stated to be a memory by Organization XIII. It was the real thing. They used the same keyblade. They just sort of switched back and forth. Edited June 19, 2013 by Megaman X Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 19, 2013 I'm pretty sure that Sora's Keyblade in CoM was a memory itself, and Roxas used Sora's actual Keyblade. I believe that the memory Keyblade was stated to be a memory by Organization XIII. Nope . It was a real keyblade in CoM and Nomura himself confirmed they were both using the same one - basically sharing it till Sora was put to sleep. 2 Demyx. and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJForever 75 Posted June 19, 2013 Duel wielding would be cool. I liked it in KHII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adngo714 36 Posted June 19, 2013 Nope . It was a real keyblade in CoM and Nomura himself confirmed they were both using the same one - basically sharing it till Sora was put to sleep. So does that mean if Sora and Roxas are both conscious,they can both wield Sora's Keyblade? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) So does that mean if Sora and Roxas are both conscious,they can both wield Sora's Keyblade? Yes just not at the exact same time. Although I believe in the future Roxas will prolly get his own keyblade if he returns as his own separate person like suggested in DDD. Also the only exception so far to this is when they battled at the heart station which is obviously a special circumstance. Edited June 19, 2013 by Flaming Lea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyn 1,755 Posted June 19, 2013 Yes just not at the exact same time. Although I believe in the future Roxas will prolly get his own keyblade if he returns as his own separate person like suggested in DDD. Also the only exception so far to this is when they battled at the heart station which is obviously a special circumstance. Well, thats different, since it was in Sora's mind, and Roxas probably wasn't using Sora's physical keyblade. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 19, 2013 Well, thats different, since it was in Sora's mind, and Roxas probably wasn't using Sora's physical keyblade. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been possible. Yes that was exactly my point when i said it was a special circumstance due to it taking place in Sora's heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted June 19, 2013 The problem with this is they took turns like in CoM and Days when Sora and Roxas co-existed which is why Roxas would sometimes fall asleep and such .This occurred until Sora was put to slumber @ the end of CoM Sora and Roxas went to sleep at the same time i thought cuz i remember the cutscene of Sora going to sleep was like right before roxas went to sleep. and Sora would have been in C.O. when Roxas was still doing missions and getting news from the other Org members that people are being eliminated at C.O. so i dont think they took turns. and Nomura also said himself that the Kingdom Key was being summoned at two places at the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 19, 2013 Sora and Roxas went to sleep at the same time i thought cuz i remember the cutscene of Sora going to sleep was like right before roxas went to sleep. and Sora would have been in C.O. when Roxas was still doing missions and getting news from the other Org members that people are being eliminated at C.O. so i dont think they took turns. and Nomura also said himself that the Kingdom Key was being summoned at two places at the same time. No they weren't asleep at the same time when Sora was still awake and in CO. During this time he was using his keyblade and Roxas was existing separately during the same time also using the same keyblade . He would have times where he wasn't awake and would just sleep and have other weird episodes. When Sora finally was asleep himself after the events of CoM there were other times that Roxas would also sleep bc then Xion was syphoning his power lil by lil pretty much and they would go back and forth powerwise bc of it .Thats why the org decided one had to go and wanted to see who would basically be stronger and absorb who and pitted them to fight each other for this reason Nomura said they were both using the same keyblade during the same time period bc they were - not at the exact same minute tho. 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted June 19, 2013 No they weren't asleep at the same time when Sora was still awake and in CO. During this time he was using his keyblade and Roxas was existing separately during the same time also using the same keyblade . He would have times where he wasn't awake and would just sleep and have other weird episodes. When Sora finally was asleep himself after the events of CoM there were other times that Roxas would also sleep bc then Xion was syphoning his power lil by lil pretty much and they would go back and forth powerwise bc of it .Thats why the org decided one had to go and wanted to see who would basically be stronger and absorb who and pitted them to fight each other for this reason Nomura said they were both using the same keyblade during the same time period bc they were - not at the exact same minute tho. but isnt it possible that they would? worlds flow in their time, but there are times when both Sora and Roxas are awake at the same time because as far as i know Sora didnt sleep at all while in Castle Oblivion. Meaning that its possible there is a time when Sora is fighting and Roxas is on a mission at the same time. the events of Castle Oblivion also spanned over some number of days. While its possible that every time Sora was using the keyblade Roxas wasnt and vice versa, we can't really know the events exactly as they were parallel to each other. we just know the two individual timelines of when sora was in C.O. and what roxas was doing while axel was away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 19, 2013 but isnt it possible that they would? worlds flow in their time, but there are times when both Sora and Roxas are awake at the same time because as far as i know Sora didnt sleep at all while in Castle Oblivion. Meaning that its possible there is a time when Sora is fighting and Roxas is on a mission at the same time. the events of Castle Oblivion also spanned over some number of days. While its possible that every time Sora was using the keyblade Roxas wasnt and vice versa, we can't really know the events exactly as they were parallel to each other. we just know the two individual timelines of when sora was in C.O. and what roxas was doing while axel was away. Well I know what you are saying and i'm not saying one had to be sleeping when the other wasn't to use it either ( thats just an example of how it affected them in different ways ). I'm also refering to Roxas falling asleep mostly up until Sora was put to sleep in the end of CoM. Then it was Sora who was asleep from that point on .I'm just saying that there were complications due to the fact they were sharing the same keyblade during the same time period and there were effects. IIRC Nomura in interviews clarified this the best but it's been awhile since i read so many interviews..But i do remember he specified that while one was using the keyblade, the other wasn't. Whether one was asleep or just not using the keyblade at that very given moment they were not using the keyblade at the exact same time bc they had to share the keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted June 20, 2013 Well I know what you are saying and i'm not saying one had to be sleeping when the other wasn't to use it either ( thats just an example of how it affected them in different ways ). I'm also refering to Roxas falling asleep mostly up until Sora was put to sleep in the end of CoM. Then it was Sora who was asleep from that point on .I'm just saying that there were complications due to the fact they were sharing the same keyblade during the same time period and there were effects. IIRC Nomura in interviews clarified this the best but it's been awhile since i read so many interviews..But i do remember he specified that while one was using the keyblade, the other wasn't. Whether one was asleep or just not using the keyblade at that very given moment they were not using the keyblade at the exact same time bc they had to share the keyblade.Nomura explained it as a counterbalance between Roxas, Xion, and Sora. Xion effected Roxas, Roxas effected Xion, both effected Sora. Roxas's status as Sora's nobody granted him the ability to wield Sora's keyblade within the same time frame as Sora but the shared it's power. The Organization had planned to use this to their advantage and have them both harvesting hearts. Had everything gone as planned Sora would have gone on slaying heartless while Roxas would have gone on missions to gather hearts during the time Sora wasn't. This planned was scrapped due complications deriving from Marluxia's manipulation of Sora and the creation of Xion. Both which compromised Roxas's power at different stages. 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Nomura explained it as a counterbalance between Roxas, Xion, and Sora. Xion effected Roxas, Roxas effected Xion, both effected Sora. Roxas's status as Sora's nobody granted him the ability to wield Sora's keyblade within the same time frame as Sora but the shared it's power. The Organization had planned to use this to their advantage and have them both harvesting hearts. Had everything gone as planned Sora would have gone on slaying heartless while Roxas would have gone on missions to gather hearts during the time Sora wasn't. This planned was scrapped due complications deriving from Marluxia's manipulation of Sora and the creation of Xion. Both which compromised Roxas's power at different stages. Exactly . It was the orgs way of constantly taking advantage of the keyblade for their end goal . They (Sora and Roxas) just had to take turns unknowingly while they did it. Edited June 20, 2013 by Flaming Lea 1 Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites