Reasons why Kingdom Hearts III will be bad

[JTD95 1,107]

 

• As Nomura said it was announced too early. We've seen video game companies release games that had great potential early just to try to please the fans but ultimately fail. coughSonic06cough It is very possible that Square could end up releasing the game early, thus ruining it's potential.

Just because he believes he reveal it to early doesn't mean he won't release it early. We won't at least be seeing it until 2015 due to him wanting to release one game a year.

 

 

• Secondly, the story. Over 50% of those people who are excited for KHIII have not played any of the portable games. They won't understand the story at all which will lead to many persons' experience with KHIII to not be at it's full potential

This has nothing to do with the game itself being bad. The game isn't bad just because certain people haven't paid properly attention to the series.

 

 

• "Just recap the the plot via cutscenes at the beginning" Yes. I agree. Let's have a 1 and a half hour to 2 and a half hours of opening movie to the game. 

This isn't even a point of its own. The first and the second point was two separate points, but this one is just a response to your previous one and should be linked to that one. If the game were to include a summary of the previous games they could make it optional.

 

 

• First off, fans have speculated a pixar world since the dawn of time. And now that the response to pixar worlds was "No comment" people expect that as a yes. I don't even need to explain this one.

This has nothing to do with the game being bad. If they don't include a Pixar world, some people will be disappointed, but this those not equal the game being bad.

 

 

• Secondly, it's obvious, so so obvious, that not every fan will like KHIII even if none of the above reasons come to pass. Some fans will be mad if Gummi ships come back, some not. Some will be mad if the game doesn't come to Wii U later on, some will rejoice, some will be mad that Donald and Goofy are back, some will be happy. Little things will bunch together to leave some fans with an overall dislike for the game.

Again, this has to do with certain people being disappointed with certain aspects of the game, something which will always happen to everything. There will never be a game, a movie or something else which would satisfy everyone.

 

As we all know, Nomura has a Yoai Fetish. It's likely that the game will contain Yoai fanservice. For this reason most of those who hate Yoai will probably hate the game.

What?

 

 

• To start off, the Osaka team is making this one. Those who wanted something like KHII could be very out of luck with this one.

How do we know that they're making it? Wasn't it said somewhere that work on KH3 began in 2010. Back then Osaka had just finished BbS, was working on BbS FM, some of them were working on Re:coded, and then they began work on KH 3D. Most likely some of the Osaka team has been working on it, and is still doing so. But the team which made KH1 and KH2 is most likely going to get involved later on if they haven't been already.

 

 

• And lastly, the gameplay. We don't even know what the gameplay even will look like. 

  "But. But. The trailer. It showed gameplay!!!"

  The trailer did not. What was seen in the trailer was just animation and not gameplay as said by, you guessed it, Nomura himself. For all we know the gameplay will look terrible.

How if not knowing anything about the gameplay equaling the gameplay being bad!? You're not making any sense. Most of what you said has only to do with peoples personal preferences. None of this has anything with the game being bad.

[EternalReckoning 1,135]

Well Weiss, while I respect your opinion, I don't think that Kingdom Hearts 3 will be horrifyingly bad.  Nomura himself knows that we, the fans have been waiting for this game for a long time now, and I doubt that he's going to disappoint us with Kingdom Hearts 3.  This insight is pretty interesting though, and you offer a side of Kingdom Hearts fans that thinks: "Hey, maybe this game won't live up to the hype."  But I am one of the hopefuls who thinks that Kingdom Hearts 3 will be excellent.  We have to be appreciative that we at least got this teaser trailer.  And besides, my concrete guess for Kingdom Hearts 3's release date, in my opinion, would be in early 2015.  Why you ask?  Because 1.5 is scheduled for this year, and with the announcement of Kingdom Hearts 3, there will no doubt be a 2.5 next year to distract us while he puts the finishing touches to Kingdom Hearts 3, and on March 2015(My prediction anyway.)Kingdom Hearts 3 might be released in Japan, and in the States at around June 2015.  While I respect your opinion Weiss, I disagree that Kingdom Hearts 3 will be bad.  I know that most of you will just say that I'm defending KH like a crazy fanboy, but I'm placing my faith in Nomura.  We have to give the guy credit for making 7 Kingdom Hearts games so far right?  There's no reason to doubt him now. 

yes, im also hopeful about such things too

i believe enough in Nomura to know he will please as many fans as possible and i also agree weiss' ideas do for the most part need to be addressed by square they are quite reallistic in general bar a few ridiculous ones.

[mosokisa 93]

You can't say if the game will be bad either yet. I think there'll be people who'll be dissappointed in it anyway but also those who'll love it, because different people like different things. Like, for some people it'll be dissappointment that you can't understand the story without playing other games than 1 and 2 but then again some people will just like that. And some people won't like it as much because it's made by Osaka team, but some people will like it more because of that.

 

Am the only one who expected this to be in the Random Section?

 

Nope, nope..

[Arthur Twining Hadley 60]

I see so many fangasms and excitement for KHIII here but have you guys ever thought that KHIII won't be the godly game you're expecting it to be? There are several easy reasons why it could be bad so allow me to begin

 

• As Nomura said it was announced too early. We've seen video game companies release games that had great potential early just to try to please the fans but ultimately fail. coughSonic06cough It is very possible that Square could end up releasing the game early, thus ruining it's potential.
• Secondly, the story. Over 50% of those people who are excited for KHIII have not played any of the portable games. They won't understand the story at all which will lead to many persons' experience with KHIII to not be at it's full potential
• "Just recap the the plot via cutscenes at the beginning" 

  Yes. I agree. Let's have a 1 and a half hour to 2 and a half hours of opening movie to the game. 

These of course, are the most obvious reasons. Let's get into some more detailed ones. 

• First off, fans have speculated a pixar world since the dawn of time. And now that the response to pixar worlds was "No comment" people expect that as a yes. I don't even need to explain this one.
• Secondly, it's obvious, so so obvious, that not every fan will like KHIII even if none of the above reasons come to pass. Some fans will be mad if Gummi ships come back, some not. Some will be mad if the game doesn't come to Wii U later on, some will rejoice, some will be mad that Donald and Goofy are back, some will be happy. Little things will bunch together to leave some fans with an overall dislike for the game.

Finally, there's the game itself. 

As we all know, Nomura has a Yoai Fetish. It's likely that the game will contain Yoai fanservice. For this reason most of those who hate Yoai will probably hate the game.

• To start off, the Osaka team is making this one. Those who wanted something like KHII could be very out of luck with this one.
• And lastly, the gameplay. We don't even know what the gameplay even will look like. 

  "But. But. The trailer. It showed gameplay!!!"

  The trailer did not. What was seen in the trailer was just animation and not gameplay as said by, you guessed it, Nomura himself. For all we know the gameplay will look terrible.

So yes, the game can be bad and most definitely will not be near as good as you are thinking it will be. In fact, it will probably be the worst thing to ever exist in the Kingdom Hearts Universe. Just like Xion.

-Nomura announcing a game "too early", didn't he announced FFIV a little early too? He is known to take his sweet little time. I don't think he is going to release it early before its ready because nomura pleases fans with good quality games not with a bunch of half-made games. I think that he meant that it was announced too early and feels bad for the fans having to wait more, but at least we know is coming.

-Yes a lot of people don't know about the "spin-offs" but that is why 1.5 and 2.5 are being released, on PS3 and possibly to download/stream on PS4, and knowing how good the games are I expect the KH fan base to grow even more.

-Like I said, the re caps are on the 1.5 and 2.5

-The pixar "no comment" thing, why would they leak important information about the worlds when they are so early in development? we can't know for sure or even assume anything so far. Point is invalid.

-Personal opinions about certain things. Just because some people don't like gummi ships doesnt mean that the game is going to be bad, if some people don't like donald and goofy why are you even playing KH ... There are some aspects of KH and KH2 that I didnt like, but that didnt mean that the game was bad. This should not be an issue.

-Osaka team made a great job on KH2 I don't know why is this even an issue. Nomura said that as soon as FFIV gets released the original team will start working on KH3.

-Of course there is no game play, he announced it too early, I don't think any of your reasons are valid but I do respect your opinions.

 

 

[KHLegendIII 709]

-Nomura announcing a game "too early", didn't he announced FFIV a little early too? He is known to take his sweet little time. I don't think he is going to release it early before its ready because nomura pleases fans with good quality games not with a bunch of half-made games. I think that he meant that it was announced too early and feels bad for the fans having to wait more, but at least we know is coming.-Yes a lot of people don't know about the "spin-offs" but that is why 1.5 and 2.5 are being released, on PS3 and possibly to download/stream on PS4, and knowing how good the games are I expect the KH fan base to grow even more.-Like I said, the re caps are on the 1.5 and 2.5-The pixar "no comment" thing, why would they leak important information about the worlds when they are so early in development? we can't know for sure or even assume anything so far. Point is invalid.-Personal opinions about certain things. Just because some people don't like gummi ships doesnt mean that the game is going to be bad, if some people don't like donald and goofy why are you even playing KH ... There are some aspects of KH and KH2 that I didnt like, but that didnt mean that the game was bad. This should not be an issue.-Osaka team made a great job on KH2 I don't know why is this even an issue. Nomura said that as soon as FFIV gets released the original team will start working on KH3.-Of course there is no game play, he announced it too early, I don't think any of your reasons are valid but I do respect your opinions. 

 

Um dude, Nomura said that the Osaka team are the ones working on KH3, the Osaka team were the ones who made KH3D and BBS.

[Arthur Twining Hadley 60]

Um dude, Nomura said that the Osaka team are the ones working on KH3, the Osaka team were the ones who made KH3D and BBS.

Sorry I got mixed over here , well I did loved BBS and DDD even tho the team should not be a concern because at the end the quality of the game will be judged by nomura.

[keystrike 145]

I think you should instead be arguing that people will be displeased with it than that it will be a bad game itself. A lot of your arguments also rely on an appeal to possibility.

I see so many fangasms and excitement for KHIII here but have you guys ever thought that KHIII won't be the godly game you're expecting it to be? There are several easy reasons why it could be bad so allow me to begin

[*]As Nomura said it was announced too early. We've seen video game companies release games that had great potential early just to try to please the fans but ultimately fail. coughSonic06cough It is very possible that Square could end up releasing the game early, thus ruining it's potential. 

[*]Secondly, the story. Over 50% of those people who are excited for KHIII have not played any of the portable games. They won't understand the story at all which will lead to many persons' experience with KHIII to not be at it's full potential This does not make it a bad game or not. I will personally enjoy it.

[*]"Just recap the the plot via cutscenes at the beginning" 

Yes. I agree. Let's have a 1 and a half hour to 2 and a half hours of opening movie to the game. OK

These of course, are the most obvious reasons. Let's get into some more detailed ones.

[*]First off, fans have speculated a pixar world since the dawn of time. And now that the response to pixar worlds was "No comment" people expect that as a yes. I don't even need to explain this one. Once again that is just fans complaining. 

[*]Secondly, it's obvious, so so obvious, that not every fan will like KHIII even if none of the above reasons come to pass. Some fans will be mad if Gummi ships come back, some not. Some will be mad if the game doesn't come to Wii U later on, some will rejoice, some will be mad that Donald and Goofy are back, some will be happy. Little things will bunch together to leave some fans with an overall dislike for the game. Ask yourself how this is different from any other game.

Finally, there's the game itself. 

As we all know, Nomura has a Yoai Fetish. It's likely that the game will contain Yoai fanservice. For this reason most of those who hate Yoai will probably hate the game.

[*]To start off, the Osaka team is making this one. Those who wanted something like KHII could be very out of luck with this one. Nomura has said that this game would be closer to kh2 because it is a main title.

[*]And lastly, the gameplay. We don't even know what the gameplay even will look like. 

"But. But. The trailer. It showed gameplay!!!"

The trailer did not. What was seen in the trailer was just animation and not gameplay as said by, you guessed it, Nomura himself. For all we know the gameplay will look terrible. They will not be doing many of the experiments on gameplay as was done with the handhelds so whatever they should be doing should 

So yes, the game can be bad and most definitely will not be near as good as you are thinking it will be. In fact, it will probably be the worst thing to ever exist in the Kingdom Hearts Universe. Just like Xion.

 

 

[Oishii 3,987]

Omg Weiss

When KH3 does come out, I look forward to your article that will pick out everything that is wrong with the game.  I'm sure it'll be just as hilarious as this thread.

[Firaga 5,947]

The same guy from the other day pissed in your coffee again, didn't he?

[Weiss 8,279]

So, people getting super hyped about something they've been looking forward to, only for it to not live up to the pedestal it's being put on because everyone's going to love and complain about different things based on what they personally want to see?  I'm sure that's never happened before in the history of ever, because everything has lived up to its hype.

 

You're pretty much saying KH3 will suck solely on the grounds of an audience that has their own individual wants and expectations instead of its own merits as a game.  By that logic, you might as well say everything sucks because people everywhere for everything will complain about it somehow.

I think it's clear that the game will be terrible itself. I just put the many opinion related ones for the hell of it.

 

I highly doubt it will be "the worst thing in the KH universe" this game, what with KHII Atlantica and the V Cast KH game setting the bar fairly low.

I agree with you on this point. Xion will always be the worst thing.

 

What?

This was confirmed many times

 

The same guy from the other day pissed in your coffee again, didn't he?

Technically. I just spread the coffee around this thread. I think everyone is enjoying it so far.

Edited June 15, 2013 by Weiss

[Dracozombie 4,554]

I think it's clear that the game will be terrible itself. I just put the many opinion related ones for the hell of it.

 

I agree with you on this point. Xion will always be the worst thing.

 

This was confirmed many times

 

Technically. I just spread the coffee around this thread. I think everyone is enjoying it so far.

 

Mmhmm.

[Firaga 5,947]

Technically. I just spread the coffee around this thread. I think everyone is enjoying it so far.

 

... So that's why I have that bad taste in my mouth... screw you, Weiss. -__-

Edited June 18, 2013 by Firaga Sensei

[FightTheDarkness 85]

I'm shocked this is coming from you, Weiss. Very shocked... 

[KHLegendIII 709]

I think it's clear that the game will be terrible itself. I just put the many opinion related ones for the hell of it.

 

I agree with you on this point. Xion will always be the worst thing.

 

This was confirmed many times

 

Technically. I just spread the coffee around this thread. I think everyone is enjoying it so far.

 

 

You do realize that some of the stuff seen in the teaser won't be in the final version, right? Nomura has NO plans to release this game too early, I personally think that KH3 WILL be released in 2015 or 2016.

[Weiss 8,279]

You do realize that some of the stuff seen in the teaser won't be in the final version, right? Nomura has NO plans to release this game too early, I personally think that KH3 WILL be released in 2015 or 2016.

I said in the opening post that the trailer didn't show what would really happen.

[Vainter 3]

Which game of the series was a disappointment to make you believe that there is no way the KH3 will not be good? Based on the platforms they worked, I think that the developer team delivered a good game its time, and that goes for all the developer teams that made a game for the Kingdom Hearts series.

 

You have a point at the difficulty that someone will have to understand the story, if they have only played KH1+2 and not the other games. I think the only way around it, is a small movie at the start screen of the game which will explain the story so far.

 

Apart from that, no game can satisfy everyone with its story, its gameplay and all its mechanisms. The same goes for books, movies etc. (story)PS As for the gameplay, it will be an evolution of the KH2 one. The gameplay of the handheld games were restricted by its handheld's own buttons which are lesser than the Dual Shock.

Edited June 15, 2013 by Vainter

[Weiss 8,279]

Which game of the series was a disappointment to make you believe that there is no way the KH3 will not be good? Based on the platforms they worked, I think that the developer team delivered a good game its time, and that goes for all the developer teams that made a game for the Kingdom Hearts series.

 

You have a point at the difficulty that someone will have to understand the story, if they have only played KH1+2 and not the other games. I think the only way around it, is a small movie at the start screen of the game which will explain the story so far.

 

Apart from that, no game can satisfy everyone with its story, its gameplay and all its mechanisms. The same goes for books, movies etc. (story)PS As for the gameplay, it will be an evolution of the KH2 one. The gameplay of the handheld games were restricted by its handheld's own buttons which are lesser than the Dual Shock.

Actually the 3DS could have handled KH2 gameplay style. Square just doesn't care that much about the actual series and is hoping for the money

[Dracozombie 4,554]

Actually the 3DS could have handled KH2 gameplay style. Square just doesn't care that much about the actual series and is hoping for the money

 

I think the trolling has overstayed its welcome, Weiss.

[KHLegendIII 709]

Actually the 3DS could have handled KH2 gameplay style. Square just doesn't care that much about the actual series and is hoping for the money

 

Didn't Nomura or a member of Square Enix say that the different battle styles for the handheld games just the result of experiments in one of the interviews?

[Vainter 3]

Actually the 3DS could have handled KH2 gameplay style. Square just doesn't care that much about the actual series and is hoping for the money

So I take that you agree at the rest of the post because you decided to answer only this.3DS lacks an analog stick and 2 triggers and has an extra screen. They could have put the KH2 gameplay but it wouldn't be the same.As I said, the story is good and all the games are considered very good games in their respective platforms. That is what matters to me. Good games sell. So, Square and every game company that wants to make money, should make good games.

[Weiss 8,279]

3DS lacks an analog stick

http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/accessories/3ds-circle-pad-pro-gamestop-exclusive/98636

The circle sticks work basically the same

Edited June 15, 2013 by Weiss

[Supdudes 53]

Regardless, this is all just hypothesis of a pessimistic view (no offense), no one can truly say that this game will be good or bad until the release of the game (or unless future info says something that smells fishy), the trailer looked good by my standards but I still can't say if it's a good or bad game. (And seriously sonic 06, come on Cat Mario had tighter controls than that game. :lol: )

 

I plan on looking forward to the future titles of KH, I've enjoyed all of them (hell even Chain), the awesome story and nostalgia always seems to draw me back as well as the awesome gameplay, I end up playing all the titles or watch the cutscenes on KH13 so I'm not really behind as for the people that don't have all the games, if they're really entranced in the story they could always find the cutscenes here to fully understand the concept of KHIII.

 

(PS Sorry if I soundz cold at all!!!!!  )

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Obvious troll is obvious lolz

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

I see so many fangasms and excitement for KHIII here but have you guys ever thought that KHIII won't be the godly game you're expecting it to be? There are several easy reasons why it could be bad so allow me to begin

 

• As Nomura said it was announced too early. We've seen video game companies release games that had great potential early just to try to please the fans but ultimately fail. coughSonic06cough It is very possible that Square could end up releasing the game early, thus ruining it's potential.
• Secondly, the story. Over 50% of those people who are excited for KHIII have not played any of the portable games. They won't understand the story at all which will lead to many persons' experience with KHIII to not be at it's full potential
• "Just recap the the plot via cutscenes at the beginning" 

  Yes. I agree. Let's have a 1 and a half hour to 2 and a half hours of opening movie to the game. 

These of course, are the most obvious reasons. Let's get into some more detailed ones. 

• First off, fans have speculated a pixar world since the dawn of time. And now that the response to pixar worlds was "No comment" people expect that as a yes. I don't even need to explain this one.
• Secondly, it's obvious, so so obvious, that not every fan will like KHIII even if none of the above reasons come to pass. Some fans will be mad if Gummi ships come back, some not. Some will be mad if the game doesn't come to Wii U later on, some will rejoice, some will be mad that Donald and Goofy are back, some will be happy. Little things will bunch together to leave some fans with an overall dislike for the game.

Finally, there's the game itself. 

As we all know, Nomura has a Yoai Fetish. It's likely that the game will contain Yoai fanservice. For this reason most of those who hate Yoai will probably hate the game.

• To start off, the Osaka team is making this one. Those who wanted something like KHII could be very out of luck with this one.
• And lastly, the gameplay. We don't even know what the gameplay even will look like. 

  "But. But. The trailer. It showed gameplay!!!"

  The trailer did not. What was seen in the trailer was just animation and not gameplay as said by, you guessed it, Nomura himself. For all we know the gameplay will look terrible.

So yes, the game can be bad and most definitely will not be near as good as you are thinking it will be. In fact, it will probably be the worst thing to ever exist in the Kingdom Hearts Universe. Just like Xion.

This... is... blasphemy!

[Weiss 8,279]

This... is... blasphemy!

I'm sorry that you have to hear the truth about yourself.