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[Sorual 607]

But then that other Pac-Man will get screwed cuz the other pac-man can manipulate that to cheaply screw a pac-man out of his recovery

i dont think thats the case. when pacman uses his recovery, i think he only depends on the 1 bounce he gets from the startup of the move. i dont think any pacman player repedidly bounces on his own trampoline to get back up because that does not get u up. it just leaves u bouncing in 1 place and vulnerable. the reason the trampoline stays there is for other players to use. not for the same pacman who created it to use. the pacman who created it only benefits from the first bounce to get back up.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Pointless back and forth conversation...

Verdict: No patch needed. The exploit isn't even broken because you can EASILY stop them from doing it. It's not Pac-man's fault so he doesn't need a fix (especially since he's pretty bad as is). Plus, the longer it's used, the more often it's recognized, meaning Pac-man teams that use the exploit (it only works in teams) get banned for it. By the way, if you're gonna do For Glory, just do 1v1s. That's all that matters in For Glory anyway. I play For Fun, personally.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Pointless back and forth conversation...

Verdict: No patch needed. The exploit isn't even broken because you can EASILY stop them from doing it. It's not Pac-man's fault so he doesn't need a fix (especially since he's pretty bad as is). Plus, the longer it's used, the more often it's recognized, meaning Pac-man teams that use the exploit (it only works in teams) get banned for it. By the way, if you're gonna do For Glory, just do 1v1s. That's all that matters in For Glory anyway. I play For Fun, personally.

Pretty much what I've been trying to say the whole time.

 

And yeah,in terms of For Glory I only play 1v1 and raaaaaaaaaaarely touch 2v2 when I wanna play co-op with my brother

[Dio Brando 5,810]

 

Also someone has ALREADY found a way to beat this exploit

 

See? IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE and it doesn't need to be patched to begin with

Edited January 4, 2015 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Kyouma-Blade 90]

 

Also someone has ALREADY found a way to beat this exploit

 

See? IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE and it doesn't need to be patched to begin with

The point isn't if it's beatable. The point is if it makes the game impossible to play if pulled off correctly.

 

Sakurai will patch things with the casuals in mind. He will probably patch this if he thinks it will ruin online.

 

Since the average casual would never know about this, they wouldn't know how to counter this strategy. Therefore, it ruins the game.

 

In the eyes of casuals, this is game breaking.

 

You won't see what the opponent picked until it's too late and the match started. So they can't even counter with R.O.B. if they knew about it. And I'm sure as hell not going to rematch them just to try and beat them at that exploit.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

The point isn't if it's beatable. The point is if it makes the game impossible to play if pulled off correctly.

 

Sakurai will patch things with the casuals in mind. He will probably patch this if he thinks it will ruin online.

 

Since the average casual would never know about this, they wouldn't know how to counter this strategy. Therefore, it ruins the game.

 

In the eyes of casuals, this is game breaking.

 

You won't see what the opponent picked until it's too late and the match started. So they can't even counter with R.O.B. if they knew about it. And I'm sure as hell not going to rematch them just to try and beat them at that exploit.

Banning is a thing y'know,you can't tell me a match won with SDs and zero points gained isn't suspicious in the slightest.You can easily report a player using the exploit and he'll get the banhammer

 

Again tell me what other possible way to patch it without screwing the character of Pac-Man over?I seriously wanna hear a way

 

Exploits exists in every game like the infinite combos in most Mortal Kombat games.......these things are hard work around while patching especially if you wanna keep the character intact without ruining it.

[Kyouma-Blade 90]

Banning is a thing y'know,you can't tell me a match won with SDs and zero points gained isn't suspicious in the slightest.You can easily report a player using the exploit and he'll get the banhammer

 

Again tell me what other possible way to patch it without screwing the character of Pac-Man over?I seriously wanna hear a way

 

Exploits exists in every game like the infinite combos in most Mortal Kombat games.......these things are hard work around while patching especially if you wanna keep the character intact without ruining it.

Sure you can ask for a ban, but I'm near positive it won't permanently ban them, if they even ban them at all. Others will keep using the strategy, and it will keep happening.

 

Thinking of a way to patch Pac-Man isn't my problem. If Sakurai decides it's a bad thing, he will patch it the way he decides to. He could even just turn on team attack online and the problem will be solved.

[Sorual 607]

Banning is a thing y'know,you can't tell me a match won with SDs and zero points gained isn't suspicious in the slightest.You can easily report a player using the exploit and he'll get the banhammer

 

Again tell me what other possible way to patch it without screwing the character of Pac-Man over?I seriously wanna hear a way

 

Exploits exists in every game like the infinite combos in most Mortal Kombat games.......these things are hard work around while patching especially if you wanna keep the character intact without ruining it.

i named a way. i really dont want to sound negative or argumental but i do think it should not be left in. even if it could be stopped (with rob and characters that can escalate only) people still will try them and in most cases succeed because not many characters can go that high to hit pac man. im sorry if this turned into an argument. i really didnt want to start a fight even less fuel it.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Sure you can ask for a ban, but I'm near positive it won't permanently ban them, if they even ban them at all. Others will keep using the strategy, and it will keep happening.

 

Thinking of a way to patch Pac-Man isn't my problem. If Sakurai decides it's a bad thing, he will patch it the way he decides to. He could even just turn on team attack online and the problem will be solved.

Well I didn't say that you should patch it,I just wanted to hear your idea

 

I never said it's a good thing,but I can't honestly think of a way outside of outright removing Pac-Man's Up B which will be stupid

 

Also,it took people 3 months to discover that about Pac-Man despite the 3DS version being out for three months now?

Edited January 4, 2015 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I really....really....reaaaaaally need some serious help against Captain Falcon

 

I almost got my ass handed to me by every Falcon player out there except for the noobish ones

 

Of all characters I can handle fighting against in Smash.....Captain Falcon is the bane of my existence

[SmashLegendRiku 97]

I really....really....reaaaaaally need some serious help against Captain Falcon

 

I almost got my ass handed to me by every Falcon player out there except for the noobish ones

 

Of all characters I can handle fighting against in Smash.....Captain Falcon is the bane of my existence

I always use a fighter with a counter move against Captain Falcon, but for any other fighter, full on blocking (not dodging) works the best, because there's a slight lag after his attacks which gives you a good window to strike back, but if you dodge you lose that window. (at least from I've seen time and time again playing against Captain Falcon)

[Reyn 1,755]

I really....really....reaaaaaally need some serious help against Captain Falcon

 

I almost got my ass handed to me by every Falcon player out there except for the noobish ones

 

Of all characters I can handle fighting against in Smash.....Captain Falcon is the bane of my existence

I find the best way to handle him is by using a fast character like ZSS or Sonic to match his speed and keep up with him. Speed Shulk works great with this too. Someone with a counter will work good too, but i think you'd rather need a fast char. for this match up.

[Kyouma-Blade 90]

I really....really....reaaaaaally need some serious help against Captain Falcon

 

I almost got my ass handed to me by every Falcon player out there except for the noobish ones

 

Of all characters I can handle fighting against in Smash.....Captain Falcon is the bane of my existence

 

I always use a fighter with a counter move against Captain Falcon, but for any other fighter, full on blocking (not dodging) works the best, because there's a slight lag after his attacks which gives you a good window to strike back, but if you dodge you lose that window. (at least from I've seen time and time again playing against Captain Falcon)

This right here. Captain Falcon has some of the laggiest moves in Sm4sh. If he whiffs, you punish him hard.

 

I'm actually kind of salty how laggy his moves are in this game. Legend has it Captain Falcon is still landing after he missed a knee.

[Reyn 1,755]

So, anyone hyped up for the new Amiibo coming out? : 3

 

IDK if im getting Robin and Lucina yet (although, again, they dont look all that good, given they're realistic looking characters, but i can deal), definitely wanna get Charizard and possibly Ness (both look great given they're more cartoon like), and Pac-Man and Wario...Not really interested, sorry. 

 

Also is it just me, or does the Bowser amiibo under the Super Mario Series kind of look a bit better than Smash Bros. Bowser? I like both, but i think the new one makes him look better TBH.

[Shulk 8,623]

So, anyone hyped up for the new Amiibo coming out? : 3

 

IDK if im getting Robin and Lucina yet (although, again, they dont look all that good, given they're realistic looking characters, but i can deal), definitely wanna get Charizard and possibly Ness (both look great given they're more cartoon like), and Pac-Man and Wario...Not really interested, sorry. 

 

Also is it just me, or does the Bowser amiibo under the Super Mario Series kind of look a bit better than Smash Bros. Bowser? I like both, but i think the new one makes him look better TBH.

Might get Ness, but I'm honestly considering not getting any amiibo anymore because of the stock crap that's been going on with them since release.

[Reyn 1,755]

Might get Ness, but I'm honestly considering not getting any amiibo anymore because of the stock crap that's been going on with them since release.

Yeah, i don't blame you. It's pretty freaking bad. I mean, the only Amiibo that i wanted out of Wave 1 or 2 was Fox honestly, and he got discontinued. I don't wanna import him/buy him online when it should be reasonable enough to buy him at a freaking store. -__- 

 

Whenever they come out (i hear Wave 3's coming out around the 19th or so), im going to try to grab the ones i want (Shulk, Bowser, Lucario) day 1 if they're in stock. If not, then i will be a bit annoyed, but i'll get over it.

[Shulk 8,623]

Yeah, i don't blame you. It's pretty freaking bad. I mean, the only Amiibo that i wanted out of Wave 1 or 2 was Fox honestly, and he got discontinued. I don't wanna import him/buy him online when it should be reasonable enough to buy him at a freaking store. -__- 

 

Whenever they come out (i hear Wave 3's coming out around the 19th or so), im going to try to grab the ones i want (Shulk, Bowser, Lucario) day 1 if they're in stock. If not, then i will be a bit annoyed, but i'll get over it.

Apparently Shulk's out of pre-orders. If that one rumor's true, Gamestop's only going to supply for pre-orders... That was pretty much the breaking point for me.

[Reyn 1,755]

Apparently Shulk's out of pre-orders. If that one rumor's true, Gamestop's only going to supply for pre-orders... That was pretty much the breaking point for me.

Dang that sucks. Well, i'll probably just constantly check if they ever get any in stock in store. If not, oh well. :

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Gonna preorder all but Charizard from Wave 4. Getting the Toad amiibo by the way.

[Shulk 8,623]

Dang that sucks. Well, i'll probably just constantly check if they ever get any in stock in store. If not, oh well. :

The rumor also said any new stock would have the prices marked up, like what happened with Xenoblade. I really hope the rumor was fake.

[Reyn 1,755]

Gonna preorder all but Charizard from Wave 4. Getting the Toad amiibo by the way.

 

Aw, where's the Charizard love? : P

The rumor also said any new stock would have the prices marked up, like what happened with Xenoblade. I really hope the rumor was fake.

I'm hoping it's fake too. Its a rumor, so i'll take it with a grain of salt for now.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Dang that sucks. Well, i'll probably just constantly check if they ever get any in stock in store. If not, oh well. :

I doubt it. That's why pre-orders exist. To ensure you get a copy of the item. Like today, I preordered the $250 Collector's Edition for Halo 5 just so I knew I had it before it closed out.

Aw, where's the Charizard love? : P

Not really a fan...

[OmegaForte 1,674]

Probably Lucina, but of course they have to mess up somewhere, and happens to be the worst place to; the face. I think the eyes looking like doll faces is the issue. Guess if I do buy her, it's for the functions, again. >_>

 

Oh well. At least I already have the figma for preorder.

Edited January 16, 2015 by OmegaForte

[Kyouma-Blade 90]

Lucina and Robin Hype!

 

And thanks to Project S.T.E.A.M. Marth is going to be reprinted, so i can get him as well.

 

So excited.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Lucina and Robin Hype!

 

And thanks to Project S.T.E.A.M. Marth is going to be reprinted, so i can get him as well.

 

So excited.

And he will speak English for the first time in that game