Super Smash Bros. 4 for Wii U & 3DS

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Robin's Levin Sword is only used when you use a Smash attack. Robin's Smash attacks can even be used in midair. It breaks after certain uses though at which point Robin uses the Bronze Sword. Don't worry, the Levin Sword regenerates over time.

 

Here we see Robin using Arc Fire. The tomes are all Specials and change depending on which Special you use.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Hero of Winds

[Reyn 1,755]

Robin's Levin Sword is only used when you use a Smash attack. Robin's Smash attacks can even be used in midair. It breaks after certain uses though at which point Robin uses the Bronze Sword. Don't worry, the Levin Sword regenerates over time.

 

Here we see Robin using Arc Fire. The tomes are all Specials and change depending on which Special you use.

Ok, that makes sense. Aerial Smash Attacks? That sounds cool, i wonder how hard itll be to do normal aerial attacks with him though, considering that.

 

Also, that second statement would explain why his spell book/Tome changes color with each special.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Robin's Levin Sword is only used when you use a Smash attack. Robin's Smash attacks can even be used in midair. It breaks after certain uses though at which point Robin uses the Bronze Sword. Don't worry, the Levin Sword regenerates over time.

 

Here we see Robin using Arc Fire. The tomes are all Specials and change depending on which Special you use.

Looks like Robin will be a tricky one to master for me since both his sword and magic spells runs out and regenerates over time which would encourage careful resource management

 

Though mostly I think Robin will shine the most in Team Battles more so than regular free for all

[supersaiyanmikito 32]

I would not discredit the leak yet. 8/11 including characters nobody guessed is too good. The leak even got the Miis right by declaring their name was changed to "Mii Fighter" before E3 this year. I'm thinking its more outdated or blurry info due to development changes. It was confirmed earlier today that Lucina was never actually intended to be a character. In fact, she was supposed to be an alternate costume for Marth that was programmed with her own voice clips and on-screen name much like the characters with male and female alts but they changed her fairly recently. Also considering Chrom is part of a final smash and has a very detailed model, I would be surprised if that caused confusion on its own. The change from a Shulk reveal to Fire Emblem characters also could have been a last minute change in response to the leak.

 

As for the 2 leaked characters, there is no doubt they are going to be in. For starters the Chorus Kids, Rhythm Heaven characters are in Smash Run not to mention Sakurai is known for making very odd character choices and somehow making them playable, just look at G&W and ROB. For Shulk, he simply has way too much demand backing him up. Sakurai is apparently also a fan of Xenoblade and it would get people interested in the game itself for Xenoblade Chronicles X. XC was a critical success and is loved throughout the east and the west, it just didn't sell a massive amount of copies mostly due to lack of supply and now its a bit of a scarce and expensive game. Not to mention SEVERAL little hints from both including Nintendo and Monolith.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

I would not discredit the leak yet. 8/11 including characters nobody guessed is too good. The leak even got the Miis right by declaring their name was changed to "Mii Fighter" before E3 this year. I'm thinking its more outdated or blurry info due to development changes. It was confirmed earlier today that Lucina was never actually intended to be a character. In fact, she was supposed to be an alternate costume for Marth that was programmed with her own voice clips and on-screen name much like the characters with male and female alts but they changed her fairly recently. Also considering Chrom is part of a final smash and has a very detailed model, I would be surprised if that caused confusion on its own. The change from a Shulk reveal to Fire Emblem characters also could have been a last minute change in response to the leak.

 

As for the 2 leaked characters, there is no doubt they are going to be in. For starters the Chorus Kids, Rhythm Heaven characters are in Smash Run not to mention Sakurai is known for making very odd character choices and somehow making them playable, just look at G&W and ROB. For Shulk, he simply has way too much demand backing him up. Sakurai is apparently also a fan of Xenoblade and it would get people interested in the game itself for Xenoblade Chronicles X. XC was a critical success and is loved throughout the east and the west, it just didn't sell a massive amount of copies mostly due to lack of supply and now its a bit of a scarce and expensive game. Not to mention SEVERAL little hints from both including Nintendo and Monolith.

Exactly! I feel it quite wrong to debunk the Gematsu leak just because Chrom isn't playable. That could have easily been a mistake, seeing how this guy hadn't been wrong about anything before then.

As for anyone who brings up the "Enjoy Shulk" e-mail...Can you really blame him? Everyone was for sure that Shulk was going to be revealed just because of a silly retweet. 

[Reyn 1,755]

Exactly! I feel it quite wrong to debunk the Gematsu leak just because Chrom isn't playable. That could have easily been a mistake, seeing how this guy hadn't been wrong about anything before then.

As for anyone who brings up the "Enjoy Shulk" e-mail...Can you really blame him? Everyone was for sure that Shulk was going to be revealed just because of a silly retweet. 

About the email, if it really was a true leak, he'd probably would've known about Lucina and Robin anyway. After all he's the leaker, he should know the real information, rather than just hints and speculation honestly. Even if everyone thought that it was Shulk, if he was leaking the real info., he should've known the true reveal. :

 

I would not discredit the leak yet. 8/11 including characters nobody guessed is too good. The leak even got the Miis right by declaring their name was changed to "Mii Fighter" before E3 this year. I'm thinking its more outdated or blurry info due to development changes. It was confirmed earlier today that Lucina was never actually intended to be a character. In fact, she was supposed to be an alternate costume for Marth that was programmed with her own voice clips and on-screen name much like the characters with male and female alts but they changed her fairly recently. Also considering Chrom is part of a final smash and has a very detailed model, I would be surprised if that caused confusion on its own. The change from a Shulk reveal to Fire Emblem characters also could have been a last minute change in response to the leak.

 

As for the 2 leaked characters, there is no doubt they are going to be in. For starters the Chorus Kids, Rhythm Heaven characters are in Smash Run not to mention Sakurai is known for making very odd character choices and somehow making them playable, just look at G&W and ROB. For Shulk, he simply has way too much demand backing him up. Sakurai is apparently also a fan of Xenoblade and it would get people interested in the game itself for Xenoblade Chronicles X. XC was a critical success and is loved throughout the east and the west, it just didn't sell a massive amount of copies mostly due to lack of supply and now its a bit of a scarce and expensive game. Not to mention SEVERAL little hints from both including Nintendo and Monolith.

 

And where exactly was it confirmed that Lucina was never intended to be a seperate character from Marth?

[supersaiyanmikito 32]

And where exactly was it confirmed that Lucina was never intended to be a seperate character from Marth?

Famitsu

[Reyn 1,755]

Famitsu

Link please?

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

About the email, if it really was a true leak, he'd probably would've known about Lucina and Robin anyway. After all he's the leaker, he should know the real information, rather than just hints and speculation honestly. Even if everyone thought that it was Shulk, if he was leaking the real info., he should've known the true reveal. :

 

 

And where exactly was it confirmed that Lucina was never intended to be a seperate character from Marth?

That's the problem. Everyone looks at it as if he knows everything. That was never specifically stated.

[Reyn 1,755]

That's the problem. Everyone looks at it as if he knows everything. That was never specifically stated.

Well, you would think he would know about all the details if he's really finding out all of this stuff straight from NIntendo itself. :

Edited July 17, 2014 by spiderfreak1011

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Well, you would think he would know about all the details if he's really finding out all of this stuff straight from NIntendo itself. :

No, that's usually not how leaks work. I've never seen a leak that gives out details about everything. This guy leaked Newcomers and mistook what he saw of Chrom as one and probably mistook Lucina as a Marth skin (going off your assumption he knows everything).

 

He's 8/11. With Shulk and Chorus Men still quite the possibility at this point, it's 10/11. Just a mistake. The guy never said he was leaking all of the playable newcomers.  This stuff isn't just pure luck, especially when it comes to Wii Fit Trainer and Chorus Men (maybe Shulk).

[Dio Brando 5,810]

No, that's usually not how leaks work. I've never seen a leak that gives out details about everything. This guy leaked Newcomers and mistook what he saw of Chrom as one and probably mistook Lucina as a Marth skin (going off your assumption he knows everything).

 

He's 8/11. With Shulk and Chorus Men still quite the possibility at this point, it's 10/11. Just a mistake. The guy never said he was leaking all of the playable newcomers.  This stuff isn't just pure luck, especially when it comes to Wii Fit Trainer and Chorus Men (maybe Shulk).

Most likely Shulk and the Chorus men will be revealed in one last Smash Bros Direct before the release of the 3DS version

 

And so far there is no reason to debunk the Gematsu leak when it got a couple of characters right like Palutena,Wii Fit Trainer,Mii Fighters....among others

 

We also might see Jigglypuff and Ness during the reveal of Shulk and the Chorus Men

[Reyn 1,755]

No, that's usually not how leaks work. I've never seen a leak that gives out details about everything. This guy leaked Newcomers and mistook what he saw of Chrom as one and probably mistook Lucina as a Marth skin (going off your assumption he knows everything).

 

He's 8/11. With Shulk and Chorus Men still quite the possibility at this point, it's 10/11. Just a mistake. The guy never said he was leaking all of the playable newcomers.  This stuff isn't just pure luck, especially when it comes to Wii Fit Trainer and Chorus Men (maybe Shulk).

To be fair, most of the people in the leak were obvious and likely. WFT and Chorus men are the only exception. Plus, remember that his description of Greninjas' leak was just "Pokemon from X/Y" and given that X/Y is one of the most popular titles now, it wasn't taht much of a stretch to make a guess like that.

 

Plus, even if he mistook Lucina for a Marth Skin and not a newcomer(which i think is believable), He Specificaly said all the people in the leak were PLAYABLE. Chrom is not playable. The only thing to see of Chrom in SSB4's gameplay is him being part of Robin's smash. He's so diff. from the rest of the roster(and FE representatives in general) that he sticks out like a sore thumb. I think this kind of debunks the leak TBH.

 

Although, just because i believe the leak wasn't true, that doesn't mean i don't think Shulk(or Chorus Men) is going to get in.

Also, new picture:

 

 

Apparently there are now Nintendo Cats along with dogs. Also, there's 5 breeds of dogs to be seen in this stage.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

To be fair, most of the people in the leak were obvious and likely. WFT and Chorus men are the only exception. Plus, remember that his description of Greninjas' leak was just "Pokemon from X/Y" and given that X/Y is one of the most popular titles now, it wasn't taht much of a stretch to make a guess like that.

 

Plus, even if he mistook Lucina for a Marth Skin and not a newcomer(which i think is believable), He Specificaly said all the people in the leak were PLAYABLE. Chrom is not playable. The only thing to see of Chrom in SSB4's gameplay is him being part of Robin's smash. He's so diff. from the rest of the roster(and FE representatives in general) that he sticks out like a sore thumb. I think this kind of debunks the leak TBH.

 

Although, just because i believe the leak wasn't true, that doesn't mean i don't think Shulk(or Chorus Men) is going to get in.

Also, new picture:

 

 

Apparently there are now Nintendo Cats along with dogs. Also, there's 5 breeds of dogs to be seen in this stage.

I think it's easy to mistake Chrom as playable (as was the way it happened with the reveal of Lucina and Robin).

[Reyn 1,755]

I think it's easy to mistake Chrom as playable (as was the way it happened with the reveal of Lucina and Robin).

Well, with Robin being RIGHT THERE alongside him while the Final Smash is going on, you think the leaker would've listed Robin. Especially considering that's the only gameplay of Chrom in the game. :

[Dio Brando 5,810]

To be fair, most of the people in the leak were obvious and likely. WFT and Chorus men are the only exception. Plus, remember that his description of Greninjas' leak was just "Pokemon from X/Y" and given that X/Y is one of the most popular titles now, it wasn't taht much of a stretch to make a guess like that.

 

Plus, even if he mistook Lucina for a Marth Skin and not a newcomer(which i think is believable), He Specificaly said all the people in the leak were PLAYABLE. Chrom is not playable. The only thing to see of Chrom in SSB4's gameplay is him being part of Robin's smash. He's so diff. from the rest of the roster(and FE representatives in general) that he sticks out like a sore thumb. I think this kind of debunks the leak TBH.

 

Although, just because i believe the leak wasn't true, that doesn't mean i don't think Shulk(or Chorus Men) is going to get in.

Also, new picture:

 

 

Apparently there are now Nintendo Cats along with dogs. Also, there's 5 breeds of dogs to be seen in this stage.

Those dogs and cats aren't new,it's from the NintendogsNintencats pet simulation series on the DS

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I really really hope Wario is coming back cuz he was one of my mains in Brawl

 

But since we got a leaked picture with him in it (just like Palutena's first picture) I think he's coming back

 

 

[Reyn 1,755]

Those dogs and cats aren't new,it's from the NintendogsNintencats pet simulation series on the DS

It was the newest post though, check it out for yourself: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073037299863/14866558073037300685

 

It's going to be a while until we get any real news after the Lucina/Robin reveal.

[Demyx. 10,064]

Sakurai explained why Chrom isn't playable

 

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/07/17/sakurai-explains-why-chrom-isnt-playable-in-smash-bros-says-he-lacks-any-unique-characteristics/

Edited July 17, 2014 by Squirting Demyx

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Sakurai explained why Chrom isn't playable

 

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/07/17/sakurai-explains-why-chrom-isnt-playable-in-smash-bros-says-he-lacks-any-unique-characteristics/

Well he really didn't need to explain why he left Chrom out as what he said is kind of unnecessary excuse,he could've just said because he felt Lucina would fit more or because she's popular within the fandom

 

Anyway since We had Robin I'm not annoyed at all at Lucina being a clone in fact I'm picking Lucina over Marth,but Sakurai really didn;t need to clarify why he chose her

[Isaix 924]

Sakurai explained why Chrom isn't playable

 

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/07/17/sakurai-explains-why-chrom-isnt-playable-in-smash-bros-says-he-lacks-any-unique-characteristics/

 That doesn't even make sense,but personally I don't really care if Chrom is in the game or not,I'm glad that Ike is still here and they are finally putting a mage from the FE Serie.Maybe next game they'll add a villain 

[Dio Brando 5,810]

 That doesn't even make sense,but personally I don't really care if Chrom is in the game or not,I'm glad that Ike is still here and they are finally putting a mage from the FE Serie.Maybe next game they'll add a villain 

Which is why I said he should've never bothered with making an excuse as he could've just said that Lucina fits better or she's popular......this is a case of saying too much but honestly I'm happy that Lucina is here and I'm more happier that Robin is in Smash 4 cuz this is the first actual mage to be in a Smash Bros game that isn't Zelda

[Ben G 166]

So are we going to get an announcement of three characters every month til the game is released?

 

On June 10th when they updated the site they announced: Pac-Man, Palutena, and Mii Fighter

 

Monday they announced: Captain Falcon, Lucina, and Robin

 

Do you think my theory sounds logical?

Edited July 17, 2014 by Ben G

[Reyn 1,755]

So are we going to get an announcement of three characters every month til the game is released?On June 10th when they updated the site they announced: Pac-Man, Palutena, and Mii FighterMonday they announced: Captain Falcon, Lucina, and RobinDo you think my theory sounds logical?

I don't know about that, maybe. I mean, we learned about WFT, MM and Villager at E3 2013. But i don't know if that's going to be the pattern for the next 2 months. Plus, they have a lot of room to announce more veterans.

[Reyn 1,755]

More info. on Robin, Lucina and CF from the Weekly Famitsu Magazine. The translation explains it all in detail, so i'm just going to quote it:

 

Lucina

Let's start with Lucina (first image). She has the exact same set of special moves that Marth does, but like the game's director Masahiro Sakurai explained, the main difference between Lucina and Marth is that the former's moves will do the same damage regardless of which part of her blade hits, whereas Marth's attacks will only do maximum damage if the tip of his blade brushes the opponent.One very important detail that both the character reveal trailer and Sakurai left out, however, is that you can actually start a match as Lucina with her mask on. In fact, Lucina has a taunt that lets her put on or remove the mask, in a similar fashion to Guile's "sunglasses" taunt in Ultra Street Fighter 4.

Captain Falcon

The second image you see above from Famitsu provides a brief overview of Captain Falcon's moves. It would appear that not many changes has been made to Captain Falcon's move set from Super Smash Bros. Brawl to the new verison for Wii U and 3DS.One detail that might be new, however, is that if you activate Captain Falcon's neutral-B special, Falcon Punch, and immediately push the analog stick in the direction opposite of the character is facing, Captain Falcon will actually unleash this signature move in the opposite direction -- which does more damage. Please let me know in the comments if this was already possible in past Smash Bros. games. Edit: According to kac1010 in the comments, this was added in Brawl.

Robin

Famitsu also provided a very detailed rundown of Robin's special moves in the game (3rd and 4th images). Check out our translation of the details below:Robin's Forward SmashThis move strikes your opponent with Robin's Levin Sword. However, as you can only use Robin's Levin Sword attacks a certain number of times, once you've run out of uses, this attack will hit with a regular bronze sword instead.Forward air attackWhen performing this move, if you were to smash the analog stick in the forward direction, Robin will attack with his Levin Sword for additional electric damage. But like all of Robin's Levin Sword attacks, you can only use the improved version a finite number of times.Down+B: NosferatuPurple-black smog in the shape of a snake appears right in front of Robin when this move is used. If your opponent is hit by it, he or she will be "cursed" by the spell. When a cursed opponent is hit, Robin's health meter will recover. What's also interesting is that if the cursed opponent is struck from the back, the amount of health Robin recovers will be larger.Neutral B: ThunderHitting the button once will activate a charging period for Robin's Thunder spell, and hitting it again will cast it. The amount of time Robin charges will determine the version of the spell cast (Thunder, Elthunder, Arcthunder, or Thoron).While charging, you can also hit the shield button to cancel the move and store the charge -- the next time you hit the B button, Robin will resume charging from wherever you left off previously.Up+B: ElwindWhen this special move is performed in the air, Robin produces two green projectiles that he sends flying downwards, which simultaneously propels him upwards. However, you can only use this move a limited number of times. Once you've exceeded the number of uses, Robin will not produce the projectiles or jump higher.Side+B: ArcfireRobin produces a projectile that flies diagonally downwards. When the projectile comes into contact with the stage, an opponent, or an item, it will generate a pillar of fire that spreads upwards, and deal area damage to anyone nearby.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

 

Just a short explanation on how Screen KOs happen. Sakurai also notes that they dun occur when time starts to run out in a match.