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I finally concede wanting 1.5 on xbox and wiiU

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well, the day I never expected to come has finally come. for those of you unaware(or maybe you want narrarated backstory :P) when 1.5 got announced most of the community was happy, but there were also people who had a xbox360 or a wiiU who were unhappy 1.5 wouldn't come to the console, myself included.

 

and now I finally find myself giving  up. if you haven't been keeping up with the news today Microsoft announced the xbox1. and did just about everything wrong with it. first of all they barely showed any games, but that aside they have taken away the ability for people to share games. and have made the console always online. but its not technically always online, its "you have to  be connected to the internet once every 24 hours." and if you've been living under a rock the wiiU still sucks. so I find myself realizing now, there really is no reason for KH to come to xbox or wiiU. wiiU because there is no way it will survive long enough and KH3 will probably be too much for the system to handle(looking back on it now I should have seen this earlier) and the next xbox unless something drastic happens  will completely fail at launch no matter what games they put on it. so I admit, sony consoles win, they are going to dominate the next generation unless they make every wrong move possible going forward. so I admit, you were right, there is no reason for 1.5 to be on xbox or wiiU, I'm not going to be a sore looser about it.

 

but the one thig I still wish you guys would consider is having the series go on PC as well. PC can handle next gen games and it's not like the market isn't there, the most played PC game is league of legends which is a fantasy game. though if it doesn't I probably wont be upset because now the PS4/PS3 looks like a much more worthwhile investment to me even though I already play on PC.

 

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well, the day I never expected to come has finally come. for those of you unaware(or maybe you want narrarated backstory :P) when 1.5 got announced most of the community was happy, but there were also people who had a xbox360 or a wiiU who were unhappy 1.5 wouldn't come to the console, myself included.

 

and now I finally find myself giving  up. if you haven't been keeping up with the news today Microsoft announced the xbox1. and did just about everything wrong with it. first of all they barely showed any games, but that aside they have taken away the ability for people to share games. and have made the console always online. but its not technically always online, its "you have to  be connected to the internet once every 24 hours." and if you've been living under a rock the wiiU still sucks. so I find myself realizing now, there really is no reason for KH to come to xbox or wiiU. wiiU because there is no way it will survive long enough and KH3 will probably be too much for the system to handle(looking back on it now I should have seen this earlier) and the next xbox unless something drastic happens  will completely fail at launch no matter what games they put on it. so I admit, sony consoles win, they are going to dominate the next generation unless they make every wrong move possible going forward. so I admit, you were right, there is no reason for 1.5 to be on xbox or wiiU, I'm not going to be a sore looser about it.

 

but the one thig I still wish you guys would consider is having the series go on PC as well. PC can handle next gen games and it's not like the market isn't there, the most played PC game is league of legends which is a fantasy game. though if it doesn't I probably wont be upset because now the PS4/PS3 looks like a much more worthwhile investment to me even though I already play on PC.

 

that is all  

I read the latest issue of Gameinformer. PCs are not next gen. They are still limited by the technological restrictions of the current gen. A true next gen has to be able to do things that are impossible on the current one. It's more than just graphics, even if that's the only immediately recognizable change. 

But yeah, The Wii U  is too much like the WiiThe Xbox One is to different from the XBox 360

Only the PS4 has the right balance of new and familiar from the PS3

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I read the latest issue of Gameinformer. PCs are not next gen. They are still limited by the technological restrictions of the current gen. A true next gen has to be able to do things that are impossible on the current one. It's more than just graphics, even if that's the only immediately recognizable change. 

But yeah, The Wii U  is too much like the WiiThe Xbox One is to different from the XBox 360

Only the PS4 has the right balance of new and familiar from the PS3

 

I don't know what article you were reading but it wasn't very accurate. the PC if you have a powerful enough rig is entirely next gen. the only thing it lacks compared to playstation4 is the speed of the RAM, but that's not a very limiting factor.

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Microsoft planned to show the console off sooner, and the gamers at E3.

 

Sony is taking the reverse approach and showing a number of games first, and the console at E3.  

 

That's why there's no news on games for the Xboxone, they want to have something to actually show at the convention.

 

But I knew long along that the game wouldn't be on the Wii U and most definitely not the current Xbox.  Sales of the Xbox in Japan mean that they can see no benefit of producing the game for the console, in terms of the cost to alter it for that system and the profit they could make.

 

Apart from multiple player point and click games like Kingdom Hearts X, I can't see a real KH game getting released on the PC.  

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Microsoft planned to show the console off sooner, and the gamers at E3.

 

Sony is taking the reverse approach and showing a number of games first, and the console at E3.  

 

That's why there's no news on games for the Xboxone, they want to have something to actually show at the convention.

 

But I knew long along that the game wouldn't be on the Wii U and most definitely not the current Xbox.  Sales of the Xbox in Japan mean that they can see no benefit of producing the game for the console, in terms of the cost to alter it for that system and the profit they could make.

 

Apart from multiple player point and click games like Kingdom Hearts X, I can't see a real KH game getting released on the PC.  

I think always online and no used games are currently a much bigger problem for the console. xbox360 was the console to get if you wanted multiplatform games because of how easy to use it was compared to PS3 in some regards(like patching) and online voice chat. now everyones on equal playing field and they have essentially shot themselves in the foot, chest, face and buried their own body. and you would be surprised what games can work on PC, try to think broader, PC's most played game is LoL a fantasy game, and PCs has controller support. so playing games that would work better on a controller(like KH, though it wouldn't be so bad on PC like lego games are) is entirely possible. hell every square enix franchise out of japan is on PC(except FF11) putting it on PC would be a gold mine. though as I said at this point I really wouldn't mind, its just convenience at this point since PS4 is really the only good console next gen

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I think always online and no used games are currently a much bigger problem for the console. xbox360 was the console to get if you wanted multiplatform games because of how easy to use it was compared to PS3 in some regards(like patching) and online voice chat. now everyones on equal playing field and they have essentially shot themselves in the foot, chest, face and buried their own body. and you would be surprised what games can work on PC, try to think broader, PC's most played game is LoL a fantasy game and has controller support. so playing games that would work better on a controller(like KH, though it wouldn't be so bad on PC like lego games are) is entirely possible. hell every square enix franchise out of japan is on PC(except FF11) putting it on PC would be a gold mine. though as I said at this point I really wouldn't mind, its just convenience at this point since PS4 is really the only good console next gen

League of Legends is a multiplayer online battle arena game. the PC market is completely dominated by MMOs. Kingdom Hearts is centered around single player gameplay. Name one recent single player PC game that has a decent number of players. That's why I don't see KH being on the PC except for games like Chi. No one wants to play a single player game on a PC

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I think always online and no used games are currently a much bigger problem for the console. xbox360 was the console to get if you wanted multiplatform games because of how easy to use it was compared to PS3 in some regards(like patching) and online voice chat. now everyones on equal playing field and they have essentially shot themselves in the foot, chest, face and buried their own body. and you would be surprised what games can work on PC, try to think broader, PC's most played game is LoL a fantasy game and has controller support. so playing games that would work better on a controller(like KH, though it wouldn't be so bad on PC like lego games are) is entirely possible. hell every square enix franchise out of japan is on PC(except FF11) putting it on PC would be a gold mine. though as I said at this point I really wouldn't mind, its just convenience at this point since PS4 is really the only good console next gen

 

 

League of Legends is a multiplayer online battle arena game. the PC market is completely dominated by MMOs. Kingdom Hearts is centered around single player gameplay. Name one recent single player PC game that has a decent number of players. That's why I don't see KH being on the PC except for games like Chi. No one wants to play a single player game on a PC

 

This for the PC point.  I could only see SE branching KH into proper PC gaming if there was a huge multiplayer element to the game.  I know other games are used on the PC but the only KH game they've released so far on it is a free browser point and click game.  

 

And SE primarily goes and releases games on consoles that are best selling for their market.  Sony has sold 10 million PS3 units in Japan, whereas Xbox units have sold a measly 1.5 million.  The cost and time it would take to cross the game over the xbox 360 wouldn't appear profitable, for the potential audience the cost of doing it so isn't beneficial.  

 

And in my point I was talking about the Xbox 360 (as a candidate for the ReMixes) not the Xbox One so the always online and no used games are a concern with what I was saying.  

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League of Legends is a multiplayer online battle arena game. the PC market is completely dominated by MMOs. Kingdom Hearts is centered around single player gameplay. Name one recent single player PC game that has a decent number of players. That's why I don't see KH being on the PC except for games like Chi. No one wants to play a single player game on a PC

you clearly don't understand the PC gaming ecosystem. MMOs aren't the only thing to do on PC, yes lots of people play them but that's mainly because of FREE to play. single player games sell on PC as well, all you have to do is look at the half-life community, or crysis 3, or portal 2, or deus ex HR(which is square enix owned) singleplayer games do just fine on PC

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AH MAN I WANT IT ON XBOX

come on dude. there is a point where you have to face facts. the whole point of 1.5 is to try and get new people into the franchise, whats the point of putting it on 360 when XBOX1 is going to fail faster than the wiiU and never see KH3. and the wiiU will probably fail soon as well, maybe not as fast but it's not far off, they have had to resort to getting an exclusive sonic game, SONIC, not saying its bad but It doesn't sell consoles anymore and all Nintendo has done is pissed off most of the fanbase who now wants to see the wiiU dead even more.

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A KH Collection on other consoles is something I definitely wouldn't agree with. Its an HD remake of the original games (which were on PS2) so it only makes sense they are exclusive to their original console's successor. I can honestly agree with KH being on anything as long as it isn't Xbox..the series on Xbox would just feel so weird in my opinion. 

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A KH Collection on other consoles is something I definitely wouldn't agree with. Its an HD remake of the original games (which were on PS2) so it only makes sense they are exclusive to their original console's successor. I can honestly agree with KH being on anything as long as it isn't Xbox..the series on Xbox would just feel so weird in my opinion. 

never mind that it would feel weird(which I don't think it would) the next xbox is anti-consumer and just creepy(KINECT must always be plugged in for the console to work, ALWAYS) but I seriously don't see the problem with giving more people the chance to experience classics from an amazing franchise. and your kinda contradicting yourself since 358 was a DS game and is on PS3 for the collection, and BBS will be in 2.5(which is pretty much confirmed at this point). I mean square is a business, it's their job to make more money so I don't see why they don't do it especially since every other franchise they have is on PC(besides FF)

 

I dunno maybe it's something with the steam business practices, valve gets a 30% cut out of a games sales which seems like a lot but with the server upkeep they have its really not that much. could also be Disney, there has not been a single Disney game yet on steam(but they have had modern games on PC) and with Disney characters in KH they might not want it to happen. though thankfully that's going to change this summer with the castle of illusion remake coming to steam :D

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never mind that it would feel weird(which I don't think it would) the next xbox is anti-consumer and just creepy(KINECT must always be plugged in for the console to work, ALWAYS) but I seriously don't see the problem with giving more people the chance to experience classics from an amazing franchise. and your kinda contradicting yourself since 358 was a DS game and is on PS3 for the collection, and BBS will be in 2.5(which is pretty much confirmed at this point). I mean square is a business, it's their job to make more money so I don't see why they don't do it especially since every other franchise they have is on PC(besides FF)

 

I dunno maybe it's something with the steam business practices, valve gets a 30% cut out of a games sales which seems like a lot but with the server upkeep they have its really not that much. could also be Disney, there has not been a single Disney game yet on steam(but they have had modern games on PC) and with Disney characters in KH they might not want it to happen. though thankfully that's going to change this summer with the castle of illusion remake coming to steam :D

 Fair enough to the point about me somewhat contradicting myself. Even though I didn't really count Days since its just cut scenes and to actually play the game you still need a DS. The Xbox One is pretty bad, so you also have a point there. But I would still feel as if the Xbox just isn't the right place for KH. Even though KH has been on Nintendo's systems, the main ones are always Playstation. The collection technically isn't a side game, so I guess it can count as a main one. If KH3 was on the Xbox, I would be quite disappointed. But who knows, FFXIII went to 360, so the possibility is there. There are negatives and positives to releasing the series on Xbox. But, its a matter of opinion here, and I'll stick to mine while you can stick to yours. So, my dream 2.5 will be true. I just searched that and it looks like you were right..... :D

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FFXIII series got just very lucky. FFXIV Online will be as PS3 exclusive and PC.

Like FFVersus13 will be pretty sure PS3 exclusive if it doesn't come to PS4.

It is just that KH was on PS consoles. FFX/X-2 appeared also as PS3/PS Vita exclusive.

I would say pray for KH3 but that is a small chance cause Nomura want all the saga on one console.

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I really don't see Xbox one failing at launch... They didn't expect the Xbox 360 to last as long as the Ps3, yet it did. I think Microsoft might have a couple things up there sleeves...

 

With that being said, I really don't think a KH game will be going to the Xbox or Pc (Besides the web browser whatever-it's-called). Xbox... Just wouldn't feel right to me, and plus Sony is more common in Japan. As for the Pc, well, I suppose it's possible. I honestly wouldn't see why not, it's just to me... It seems highly unlikely for a series like KH to go to a Pc... The Wii U (Like all of Nintendo) in my opinion is a dying kind of platform.

 

Besides, I think Nomura might have finally realized that spreading all these games over all these different platforms may not be the best approach. I think the likely KH 2.5 and KH 3 will be released on Ps3. Well, it's very possible KH 3 might be released on Ps4. It's probably very likely actually. I could see a Ps4/Ps3 release too though. Who knows. We can only speculate. Wasn't expecting to make that this long.

 

...Annnd I just realized I pretty much just said what everyone else said, but in one long post.

 

Awesome.

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Yeah I like that it comes to PS3/PS4 only for the big games but I appreciate that to more or less make some fans happy they made the filler games that helped explain things between the main games across multiple handheld systems(some on DS/GBA systems and some on PSP systems). 

 

BTW is KHX in Japanese only or will we ever get an English version of the game?

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And here I find myself the only person really freaking enjoying my Wii U. Of course, the much better games Wind Waker HD included won't be in till the fall. However, I still highly consider KH a Sony series when it comes to the games, that when gameplay is a factor, are the better of the series.  However, story wise, the series has spread across several systems and honestly I still prefer to play them on a Sony system. I can't stand commands or command creations, but I really enjoyed them in BBS and when it comes to my over all enjoyment of the series, I find myself really enjoying the Sony KH games over the other titles, although, I found Days to be most enjoyable for a Nintendo KH game.

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