Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 4, 2013 So i think it was implied that Yen Sid had Sora and Riku time travel to Destiny Islands at the start of their journey, but were they able to time travel because of Yen Sid's magic? We know from YX that one can gain the ability to time travel by freely giving up their body. Sora willingly gave up his body to save Kairi, and while Riku probably did not want to lose his body he DID let Ansem into his body which caused him to lose his body later. So by the laws of the KH universe can sora and riku time travel on their own? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted April 4, 2013 They probably could but they didn't know how to or even that they had the ability so Yen Sid had to help them do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sikota Urinakano 876 Posted April 4, 2013 Flaming Lea, we need your input. 1 Sorual reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shard the Gentleman 2,891 Posted April 4, 2013 Flaming Lea, we need your input. This. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weiss 8,279 Posted April 4, 2013 [7:40:27 PM] Weiss♠: I'd like to see what these people think of time travel lol [7:40:37 PM] Bilbo: my god Called it~ *waits for Flaming Lea to answer this question* 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 4, 2013 They probably could but they didn't know how to or even that they had the ability so Yen Sid had to help them do it. well ya but i mean, now that they know about time travel, they could ask yen sid if he could teach them how to do it. i dont think theyd use it tho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioKHT 449 Posted April 4, 2013 i don't think it was implied ... At any moment. And for you to travel, and you have to CURRENTLY "be" without a body, not have given up anytime previously in the past. So they can't time travel on their own. never mind. Just wait to hear from an expert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oishii 3,987 Posted April 4, 2013 Because one person firetrucking up the timeline isn't enough... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) Yen Sid was only able to send Sora and Riku back in time with his magic bc they had past versions of themselves existing at that point in time ..It's not that they are just randomly time traveling as they please. This was also stated several times in game by YMX and Xigbar as to why they could do this as well.. Edited April 4, 2013 by Flaming Lea 4 Reyn, luka, Weiss and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Juan 574 Posted April 4, 2013 Yen Sid was only able to send Sora and Riku back in time with his magic bc they had past versions of themselves existing at that point in time ..It's not that they are just randomly time traveling as they please. This was also stated several times in game by YMX and Xigbar as to why they could do this as well.. Well why doesn't Xehanort just travel back to the point where Terra gave the Keyblade to Riku and kill both Sora and Riku? Since Terra and Xehanort are combined, he technically should be able to go there... Besides, they already know that neither will work as vessels, so might as well dispose of your greatest threat but you know, that'd be too easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 4, 2013 Well why doesn't Xehanort just travel back to the point where Terra gave the Keyblade to Riku and kill both Sora and Riku? Since Terra and Xehanort are combined, he technically should be able to go there... Besides, they already know that neither will work as vessels, so might as well dispose of your greatest threat but you know, that'd be too easy. For one ,bc it was stated you can't change the past when you do this (time travel) .It's one of the rules of time travel stated in game. Secondly, MX was basically still trying to make Riku his vessel in DDD till they realised he couldn't be used and then they tried to use Sora as the back up ,That was their whole plan in DDD 3 luka, Weiss and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Juan 574 Posted April 4, 2013 For one ,bc it was stated you can't change the past when you do this (time travel) .It's one of the rules of time travel stated in game. Secondly, MX was basically still trying to make Riku his vessel in DDD till they realised he couldn't be used and then they tried to use Sora as the back up ,That was their whole plan in DDD It took Xehanort an entire game to do nothing but spoil his plans. What a guy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 4, 2013 For one ,bc it was stated you can't change the past when you do this (time travel) .It's one of the rules of time travel stated in game. Secondly, MX was basically still trying to make Riku his vessel in DDD till they realised he couldn't be used and then they tried to use Sora as the back up ,That was their whole plan in DDD wait isnt Xehanort going back to the past and sending himself on a journey technically changing it? well i guess it doesnt if YX forgets everything when he comes back then... Yen Sid was only able to send Sora and Riku back in time with his magic bc they had past versions of themselves existing at that point in time ..It's not that they are just randomly time traveling as they please. This was also stated several times in game by YMX and Xigbar as to why they could do this as well.. i know that, but i mean can Sora and Riku do that on their own? cuz they both have lost their bodies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted April 4, 2013 wait isnt Xehanort going back to the past and sending himself on a journey technically changing it? well i guess it doesnt if YX forgets everything when he comes back then... i know that, but i mean can Sora and Riku do that on their own? cuz they both have lost their bodies. No because he was always meant to grow up and do everything he was suppose to do .It's like an endless time loop. As for Sora and Riku no they cannot do it on their own bc they needed Yen Sids magic to do it in the first place .They did not personally possess the power to do it , Yen Sid sent them back in time with HIS MAGIC . 3 luka, Demyx. and Weiss reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PublicLibraryx 55 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) One thing that confuses me is... They went back in time, in.. a dream? I think, or do they have to dream in order to go back in time, and Save the worlds that fell into sleep, so..... But.. Tron's world is in the Future but... they went back in time and... *brain implodes*I actually thought I had a grasp on KH Time travel but it seems I don't understand at all.Or.... Did they. go back and.. but then.. i'll stop now.. Edited April 4, 2013 by PublicLibraryx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted April 4, 2013 One thing that confuses me is... They went back in time, in.. a dream? I think, or do they have to dream in order to go back in time, and Save the worlds that fell into sleep, so..... But.. Tron's world is in the Future but... they went back in time and... *brain implodes*I actually thought I had a grasp on KH Time travel but it seems I don't understand at all.Or.... Did they. go back and.. but then.. i'll stop now.. The Tron level isn't in the future. o.O 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PublicLibraryx 55 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) The Tron level isn't in the future. o.O It isn't? I just assumed because Tron Legacy is in terms of the Tron Timeline i'm sure. Please Explain. You know what? I was wrong. I don't understand. Edited April 4, 2013 by PublicLibraryx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axtwyt 500 Posted April 4, 2013 It isn't? I just assumed because Tron Legacy is in terms of the Tron Timeline i'm sure. Please Explain. You know what? I was wrong. I don't understand. The sleeping worlds they go into aren't in the past. Only the sleeping Destiny Islands are. And besides, the first acknowledgement of the Grid's existence (IN THE TRON CANON, BTW) was back in 1989, a year after the original Tron took place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyx. 10,064 Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) It isn't? I just assumed because Tron Legacy is in terms of the Tron Timeline i'm sure. Please Explain. You know what? I was wrong. I don't understand. The worlds they go to are in the present. A world may be futuristic or set in the past. Bust that world is in its present timeline so when Sora, Riku or anyone else travel to a world they aren't really time traveling. Also they go into the past when they are on destiny islands. But then they enter the realm of sleep which is set in the present timeline. It's just in a sleep realm. Where those worlds are sleeping. Edited April 4, 2013 by Xaon 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 4, 2013 The sleeping worlds they go into aren't in the past. Only the sleeping Destiny Islands are. And besides, the first acknowledgement of the Grid's existence (IN THE TRON CANON, BTW) was back in 1989, a year after the original Tron took place. I thought the Grid was a different world lol. Space Paranoids was a copy of the Grid if i remember correctly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PublicLibraryx 55 Posted April 4, 2013 The sleeping worlds they go into aren't in the past. Only the sleeping Destiny Islands are. And besides, the first acknowledgement of the Grid's existence (IN THE TRON CANON, BTW) was back in 1989, a year after the original Tron took place. The worlds they go to are in the present. A world may be futuristic or set in the past. Bust that world is in its present timeline so when Sora, Riku or anyone else travel to a world they aren't really time traveling. Also they go into the past when they are on destiny islands. But then they enter the realm of sleep which is set in the present timeline. It's just in a sleep realm. Where those worlds are sleeping. I thought the Grid was a different world lol. Space Paranoids was a copy of the Grid if i remember correctly Oh right! Well cool! I get it now~ Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted April 4, 2013 They probably could but they didn't know how to or even that they had the ability so Yen Sid had to help them do it. That's basically it. Sora's and Riku's clothes did change by Yen Sid's magic so it's safe to assume that the time travel was Yen Sid's assistance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axtwyt 500 Posted April 5, 2013 I thought the Grid was a different world lol. Space Paranoids was a copy of the Grid if i remember correctly Space Paranoids was a copy of the ENCOM system from Tron. Kevin Flynn created the Grid separately from the ENCOM system, as his own little pet project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Britipinojeff 95 Posted April 5, 2013 Space Paranoids was a copy of the ENCOM system from Tron. Kevin Flynn created the Grid separately from the ENCOM system, as his own little pet project. well either way they are two separate worlds and my point was that even though Space Paranoids is accessible in KH2 its fine for the Grid to be a sleeping world in KH3D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venxas24 544 Posted April 5, 2013 I think they Yen Sid helped them, but even if they could they can't alter events that were destined to happen so I'm not sure what they would do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
