TV The Legend of Korra

[Ceriraye 485]

In my opinion it seem that it was building up from book two and all the way up. It doesn't feel forced at all to me, it feels like a natural growth from friends to lovers

[Dio Brando 5,810]

There were hints throughout book 4.

Very very very vague hints btw

In my opinion it seem that it was building up from book two and all the way up. It doesn't feel forced at all to me, it feels like a natural growth from friends to lovers

But most of her time was spent with Mako and Bolin as Asami has been  busy with her company almost the whole show.

 

 

Look I don't have anything against bi people but can you please look at this without bias to neither group?I'm fine if any of you guys are bi it's perfectly fine but don't let this cloud the judgement on the show

[KazeNari 53]

Yeah but this was added at the very last minute of the show and never got built on before

 

If they really wanted to present bi-people they should've done that from the very beginning not at the very very end

 

Also,writers do have the right to not feel forced to add something and have their creativity stomped on for the sake of appeasing to a specific group

Placing a relationship at the beginning was what they did with Makorra and they did it terribly by having Korra crushing on Mako out of nowhere. I prefer it at the end because their relationship didn't get in the way of the plot

There was no time to put romance in the last two seasons with all these crazy people trying to kill Korra and taking over Earth states and Korra being too busy with her breakdowns to focus on dating so why isn't it perfect to start dating your friend when everything is peaceful again?

But most of her time was spent with Mako and Bolin as Asami has been  busy with her company almost the whole show.

Even then, she tried her best to be there for Korra like when she offered her tea and listened to her when she talks about her problems; something Bolin and Mako couldn't do.

[Sora96 17,256]

Very very very vague hints btw

But most of her time was spent with Mako and Bolin as Asami has been  busy with her company almost the whole show.

 

 

Look I don't have anything against bi people but can you please look at this without bias to neither group?I'm fine if any of you guys are bi it's perfectly fine but don't let this cloud the judgement on the show

 

They weren't very very very vague. A big one being how she only wrote to Assami.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Placing a relationship at the beginning was what they did with Makorra and they did it terribly by having Korra crushing on Mako out of nowhere. I prefer it at the end because their relationship didn't get in the way of the plot

There was no time to put romance in the last two seasons with all these crazy people trying to kill Korra and taking over Earth states and Korra being too busy with her breakdowns to focus on dating so why isn't it perfect to start dating your friend when everything is peaceful again?

Even then, she tried her best to be there for Korra like when she offered her tea and listened to her when she talks about her problems; something Bolin and Mako couldn't do.

Let me put it in a way this site can relate with

 

 

In Kingdom Hearts,Sora loves Kairi,right?Imagine if Nomura decided at the very last moment in KH3 right after the battle with Xehanort that Sora falls in love with Riku and ditch Kairi behind him.......that doesn't feel forced at all right?

 

Also,can I ask,what in the hell is wrong with a normal brotherhood-like friendship?Does the word friendship exist anymore?Why is it oh so necessary to change every friendship relationship we have in every single story into a sexual one?

 

 

Again I have no problem with bi people but at the same time we don't have to shove bi-sexual relationships into every single thing we watch or play.

Edited December 23, 2014 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Ceriraye 485]

Let me put it in a way this site can relate with  In Kingdom Hearts,Sora loves Kairi,right?Imagine if Nomura decided at the very last moment in KH3 right after the battle with Xehanort that Sora falls in love with Riku and ditch Kairi behind him.......that doesn't feel forced at all right? Also,can I ask,what in the hell is wrong with a normal brotherhood-like friendship?Does the word friendship exist anymore?Why is it oh so necessary to change every friendship relationship we have in every single story into a sexual one?  Again I have no problem with bi people but at the same time we don't have to shove bi-sexual relationships into every single thing we watch or play.

But there are hardly anyone bi or gay or anything other than straight in tv shows and games. I could counter that sora riku kairi thing but meh. My point tho, why can't we have a same sex romantic relationship? Boy/girl couples are always there a few same sex ones won't hurt anybody

[Dio Brando 5,810]

But there are hardly anyone bi or gay or anything other than straight in tv shows and games. I could counter that sora riku kairi thing but meh. My point tho, why can't we have a same sex romantic relationship? Boy/girl couples are always there a few same sex ones won't hurt anybody

I never said we can't have it

 

I said nowadays it's being shoved into everything I watched

[KazeNari 53]

Let me put it in a way this site can relate with

 

 

In Kingdom Hearts,Sora loves Kairi,right?Imagine if Nomura decided at the very last moment in KH3 right after the battle with Xehanort that Sora falls in love with Riku and ditch Kairi behind him.......that doesn't feel forced at all right?

 

Also,can I ask,what in the hell is wrong with a normal brotherhood-like friendship?Does the word friendship exist anymore?Why is it oh so necessary to change every friendship relationship we have in every single story into a sexual one?

 

 

Again I have no problem with bi people but at the same time we don't have to shove bi-sexual relationships into every single thing we watch or play.

I understand what you're saying; that like in a lot of shows, the creators always have to have some romantic relationship among characters instead of keeping platonic relationships. That bugs me too. It erases the importance of platonic relationships; it's a bad message saying that romantic relationships are more important than being close friends. HOWEVER, this is usually the case for heterosexual characters who end up dating each other. For Korra and Asami, yeah, there's the issue that the creators chose to have them date than be friends but they traded it for something equally valuable: representation for bisexual/romantic individuals and people who are in same sex relationships. There are very few shows that have two characters stay friends but there's also a shortage in characters who are canonically bisexual/romantic who aren't horrible stereotypes.

And before you say that this isn't an issue about bi representation, I'm going to say that storywise, I thought the relationship was well written and not forced into/in the way of the plot because they put it at the end with some VALID hints and interations before they got together officially. Your KH example also wouldn't make sense even if they decided to make Sora fall in love with Riku and ditch Kairi out of nowhere in the beginning. Honestly, it doesn't matter where in the plot that the characters start dating so long as events that lead up to it make sense. (aaand Sora and Kairi in a romantic relationship isn't that well-written to begin with because we don't even know why Sora is legit in love with Kairi but I digress; that's a whole different topic that I don't want to get into right now)

Edited December 23, 2014 by KazeNari

[Ceriraye 485]

I never said we can't have itI said nowadays it's being shoved into everything I watched

Honestly? Tell me what you watch because if bi people are finally coming into the media and shows I'm clearly watching the wrong things.And I misread, excuse the mobile typer. But anyway, IMO there are plenty of brother like sister like friendships, ya know between two girls or two boys; But never between a boy/girl. But if I'm missing your point which is sexual or romantic relationships are in everything now a days then yes, I agree with that completely. Always between a boy and girl.Had to go back and edit. Way too many errors haha Edited December 23, 2014 by Ceriraye

[KazeNari 53]

Honestly? Tell me what you watch because if bi people are finally coming into the media and shows I'm clearly watching the wrong things.And I misread, excuse the mobile typer. But anyway, IMO there are plenty of brother like sister like friendships, ya know between two girls or two boys. but hardly purely friendships between a boy and girl. That's always goes romantic in no time at all. But if in missing your point which is sexual or romantic relationships are in everything now a days then yes, I agree with that completely. Some romantic relationships are forced and unneeded, my mind comes to sora/kairi with that. If thats whatcha meant?

There are only like....2 or 3 animated shows with canonically bi/gay characters. THERE ARE LESS SHOWS WITH BI CHARACTERS THAT AREN'T INSULTING STEREOTYPES THAN THERE ARE FINGERS ON EACH OF MY HANDS and that's considered a lot? >w>;

Edited December 23, 2014 by KazeNari

[Sorarocks93 678]

There were hints throughout book 4.

Even throughout season 3.

[Sorarocks93 678]

Except that it is a CHILDREN'S CARTOON and no hints of lesbianism, strong hints that anybody could pick up, were ever present except if you already shipped KorrAsami just for the sake of doing it.

 

Look, I'm not asking you to agree with me, but I want people to at least understand why. I'm perfectly fine with different types of lifestyles, but that will not keep me from disagreeing with this on a writing level and on a moral level.

Wait, wait a minute. This is treading into a whole different conversation. 

 

Why is it wrong for it be on a children's cartoon? And please don't say because it would change their views and that they'd end up gay or something. Because that would seriously imply that you believe being homosexual is a choice. Which it isn't. 

 

And if you think it is.. then I'm sorry but I can't take what you're saying seriously anymore. There is a difference between opinions and flat out disliking someone's choice of life because of disgust.

 

PS: Aang and Katara kissed at the end of ATLA, why was that appropriate for a children's cartoon?

[Kittenz 4,281]

Homophobic much mega koopa?

 

 

Sora and Kairi has always been hinted at

Korra and Asami has always been hinted at

 

Your ''example'' is stupid

[Brady Austin 54]

i don't understand why when someone says it's forced suddenly he or she is homophobic. let's be honest here for a minute. The show didn't need a romance. The show didn't need that in the end. The conversation with tenzin would have been an excellent end. But instead they add this scene where honestly hints or not they were extremely vague as to whether or not they were just really good friends or more. It's really ridiculous that suddenly having an opinion makes you homophobic.

[Sora'sMum 352]

My issue was that the city just go destroyed, so everyone there is in disorder. The Earth Kingdom has been pretty f'd over (yes, I know the prince said he's gonna set up a democratic government). Not to mention, Asami's dad JUST died. But the two of them are just gonna ditch and go on a holiday? 

 

I guess they've both done more than enough to save the city in the first place, but still, maybe hang around a bit till things settle. 

[Weedanort 8,786]

How this thread is right now:

 

 

Guys, calm down

 

I understand what you were trying to say, but Mega Koopa sometimes you gotta phrase things better

 

And everyone else, Mega Koopa wasn't giving out an homophobic opinion, the phrasing made it look like that

 

In my personal opinion, the ending was good. Not what I expected, but I'll take it

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Honestly? Tell me what you watch because if bi people are finally coming into the media and shows I'm clearly watching the wrong things.And I misread, excuse the mobile typer. But anyway, IMO there are plenty of brother like sister like friendships, ya know between two girls or two boys; But never between a boy/girl.But if I'm missing your point which is sexual or romantic relationships are in everything now a days then yes, I agree with that completely. Always between a boy and girl.Had to go back and edit. Way too many errors haha

My question is:What's wrong with a normal brotherhood-like friendship?What's the problem with that

 

Do I have to be sexually engaged with my best friend in order for me to actually love him as a friendbrother?

 

Why does everything has to evolve into a romance when it wasn't needed?Why do creators have to be enslaved to appease to a specific group and get their creativity and ideas stomped just because something became a trend all of a sudeen?

 

If you want a bi sexual relationship fine I'm all with it but don't spam it in every game,anime,TV show,movie that I watched or played

 

Also there is the issue that.....IT'S FOR KIDS!why expose a kid to sexual stuff and a young age?This is like if a father told his 9 year old son:Hey kid,I wanna teach you how to insert that dick into someone else's butthole

There are only like....2 or 3 animated shows with canonically bi/gay characters. THERE ARE LESS SHOWS WITH BI CHARACTERS THAT AREN'T INSULTING STEREOTYPES THAN THERE ARE FINGERS ON EACH OF MY HANDS and that's considered a lot? >w>;

That's because you only watch a few and never tried to branch to other kinds of shows

 

Cuz from my experience I encountered that a lot in games I've played and shows,animes I've watched

[Ceriraye 485]

My question is:What's wrong with a normal brotherhood-like friendship?What's the problem with that Do I have to be sexually engaged with my best friend in order for me to actually love him as a friendbrother? Why does everything has to evolve into a romance when it wasn't needed?Why do creators have to be enslaved to appease to a specific group and get their creativity and ideas stomped just because something became a trend all of a sudeen? If you want a bi sexual relationship fine I'm all with it but don't spam it in every game,anime,TV show,movie that I watched or played Also there is the issue that.....IT'S FOR KIDS!why expose a kid to sexual stuff and a young age?This is like if a father told his 9 year old son:Hey kid,I wanna teach you how to insert that dick into someone else's buttholeThat's because you only watch a few and never tried to branch to other kinds of shows Cuz from my experience I encountered that a lot in games I've played and shows,animes I've watched

Sexual? It's not like they banged or something on screen. There was nothing sexual about it. And in there are way more "sexual" stuff in other shows and whatnot. Let me guess let's say if mako and korra had a full make out that's not sexual right? Okay so korra and asami held hands, super sexual, R rated no no. Correct?

[Sora'sMum 352]

Just so everyone knows, if it was Korra banging Mako, or Korra banging Asami, I'd still watch.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Sexual? It's not like they banged or something on screen. There was nothing sexual about it. And in there are way more "sexual" stuff in other shows and whatnot. Let me guess let's say if mako and korra had a full make out that's not sexual right? Okay so korra and asami held hands, super sexual, R rated no no. Correct?

That's not what I meant

 

I just meant the hint at sexual innuendos

[Ceriraye 485]

That's not what I meant I just meant the hint at sexual innuendos

I'm sure every kind of couple will have sexual innuendos regardless of anything.

[KazeNari 53]

That's because you only watch a few and never tried to branch to other kinds of shows

 

Cuz from my experience I encountered that a lot in games I've played and shows,animes I've watched

Oh my bad, I was referring to Western animation. For anime, there are fewer anime that don't fetishize the concept of same sex relationships compared to shows that do and fetishization is not representation.

 

I don't really know much about same sex relationships in games though.

[Setrex 1,031]

Honestly I don't mind. It never felt forced to me and if you watch Book 1 through 4 and pay attention to how Korra and Asami interact with one another you'd see that. Could they have left it as them just being really good friends? Probably, but the ending they went with was far better.

 

I'm not someone who supported the 'Korrasami' thing (or shipping in general), but that doesn't mean I hate it. I think it was totally justified and was never a forced ending and after reading both Bryan and Mike's explanation on the whole matter, I completely agree with what they had envisioned for the finale.

[Movies798 1,358]

Well even though they were hints in Book 3 and Book 4, I still say their relationship was more like best friends. I have no problem about Korrasami being an official but from watching Book 3 and Book 4 Korra and Asami were being best friends. I read both Mike and Bryan's respond about Korrasami being canon but my only problem is that they could of develop their romance better. But you know I get it that Mike and Bryan were trying to be more specific about Korrasami being canon but of course there were strict rules that Nick gave them so they couldn't take Korrasami in any further beyond holding hands and looking each others eyes.

[PrinceNoctis 1,011]

They weren't very very very vague. A big one being how she only wrote to Assami.

To be honest I didn't see it as anything but a sisterly bond, but I personally think that every relationship Korra had was forced. Even as a Makorra shipper, I have to admit Korra and Mako's relationship was meh. It should've been Korra Alone (see what I did there ) and I don't care about the rest. Happy for the Korrasami shippers but if you weren't one there was no way you would've seen Asami's and Korra's relationship that way. The signs of it (except for the blushing...I admit that was clear) weren't obvious. I feel like relationships in LOK are holding back the good story-telling and the important stuff about the show. Look at book 3, it was SO good and had no romance for Korra. But I can get over that honestly. The only thing that really saddens is that I feel like we didn't get enough closure on Korra's spiritual arc. Edited December 23, 2014 by PrinceNoctis