Atheists V.S. Christians

[Shard the Gentleman 2,891]

Atheists: People who don't believe in God.

Christians: People who do believe in God.

 

There. Differences aside, just get along.

 

Christians, in the bible, It says treat others the way you wish to be treated. I've been noticing you aren't doing that. Don't force others to join your side if you don't want to be forced back. Got it?

 

Atheists, let people believe what they want to believe. If they want to believe in God, let them.

 

I have friends from both sides, and some (not most) of you are acting like complete idiots. No, I'm not sorry I said that. You are acting like idiots. Simple as that. Get off your high pedestal, and join the rest of humanity. Both of you.

 

Myself, I'm Judaic Christian, and I see the corruptions from both sides that neither choose to confront, rather, avoid. Face the facts. You're all acting stupid, and you should get over yourselves.

 

Does being Christian make you feel better about yourself? Is that why you choose to shove it down peoples throats? So you can feel better about yourself? Christianity isn't about Self-Image.

 

Does being Atheist give you the right to take peoples beliefs and throw them away? Does it give you the right to shove your "Oh, God does exist, you idiot!" in their face? No. If you're Atheist, good for you. Don't force others to throw away what they believe.

 

I hope you learn something now before it comes to bite you in the ass later.

[Weiss 8,279]

Not everyone is as you described

[Shard the Gentleman 2,891]

Not everyone is as you described

Thats why I said "Some, not most."

[Hei 3,233]

What's the term for simply not believing? Agnostic? Cuz I am not religious at all, but I don't go around telling religious people they are wrong.

[advfox 698]

I've really agree with what you are saying. 

[Weiss 8,279]

Thats why I said "Some, not most."

I know that. I'm just saying not everyone is like that. 

[keybearer21 6]

Where is all this coming from? lol

[Zoro317 111]

Oh, I can think of simpler solutions... but I'll hold my tongue... <_<

Edited February 20, 2013 by Lordrogersmith6485

[Demyx. 10,064]

Agnostic is the way to go. We don't discredit anything.

[Static15 90]

What's the term for simply not believing? Agnostic? Cuz I am not religious at all, but I don't go around telling religious people they are wrong.

Exactly...

I'd rather not have anything to do with religion in general

[Hoshiko Hikari 300]

I'm a Mormon Christian myself but I respect other people's beliefs (or unbeliefs). No one should be forced to believe in something against their will.

[Queen Tery 4,591]

Agnostic is the way to go. We don't discredit anything.

 

*High fives you*

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

But what do you do when faith conflicts with non-faith?For example, let's say my faith forbids me from consuming vitamin C. If iget scurvy from this, that's my responsibility. but if I have a child, do I get to keep them from consuming Vitamin C?If yes, then I get to put someone else in danger because of my faith.If no, then you are infringing on my right to practice my faith because you don't believe in it.

[Shard the Gentleman 2,891]

But what do you do when faith conflicts with non-faith?For example, let's say my faith forbids me from consuming vitamin C. If iget scurvy from this, that's my responsibility. but if I have a child, do I get to keep them from consuming Vitamin C?If yes, then I get to put someone else in danger because of my faith.If no, then you are infringing on my right to practice my faith because you don't believe in it.

What religion doesn't let people consume Vitamin C?In my religion, we aren't allowed to have Vaccines, and no one in my family has caught the flu, chicken pox, or anything of the sort. Usually people who aren't around these things are immune to a certain extent. If you have never consumed Vitamin C, your child will most likely been born with:1. An Immunity to Scurvy2. Scurvy, which can be treated without the use of Vitamin C, who will most likely produce a child with Immunity to scurvy.

[Shana09 5,769]

You mean "Atheists vs. Every other belief in some God"?

 

This is why I'm Agnostic, who knows if there is a God or not. No one alive knows what happens after you die, it's all just surrounded in theories and myths. Were not sure if it's true or not, which is why we BELIEVE something is true or not. Hence it's a belief, not fact. Not all Christians are like what you describe, many of them are great. Of course not every Christian (like in every religion in the world) is going to be 100% on the bible. They have vague beliefs but follow almost 60 - 70% of what the bible says. It's really not a surprise people act like this and people are always going to act like this because they believe their belief is "superior" or "right". It's how the human mind processes when they believe in something. There are some who function differently but a majority function like what I just described. 

Edited February 20, 2013 by Shana09

[Elijah Gravenhorst 480]

I am a Christian and I certainly don't shove my beliefs down other peoples throats. But all I'm gonna say is that I'm not afraid to shove it right back when I am challenged.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

What religion doesn't let people consume Vitamin C?In my religion, we aren't allowed to have Vaccines, and no one in my family has caught the flu, chicken pox, or anything of the sort. Usually people who aren't around these things are immune to a certain extent. If you have never consumed Vitamin C, your child will most likely been born with:1. An Immunity to Scurvy2. Scurvy, which can be treated without the use of Vitamin C, who will most likely produce a child with Immunity to scurvy.

I intentionally chose one that doesn't exist. Trying to avoid conflict by using an example that doesn't actually exist.And, no. That's not how biology works, first you can't be 'immune' to scurvy any more than you can be 'immune' to hunger or dehydration. You need vitamin C to survive, scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency, not a disease vitamin C treats.

[Koko 3,944]

what about all them peopple who think Satanists are evil devil worshipers when theyre not lmao???

also people who scrutinize Wiccans

i mean you got your Christians and your Atheists and most people are okay with that, but once you say you're a Satanist (like myself) or a Muslim or a Wiccan all hell breaks loose

i see less problems between atheists and christians than i see when people of other faiths try to practice their faith

 

edit: ALSO!!!

not only christians believe in god!!! WOAH WOW NEW CONCEPT

jewish people and muslims also believe in god and theyre not christian

the jewish people just call god yaweh while muslims call god allah

same god, different names. 

Edited February 20, 2013 by Koko

[Amon 4,279]

Only good will come from this thread. 

 

Better put on my flame suit and my troll face. 

 

This thread is a perfect example of why us Christians are starting to get hated on...again... 

Edited February 20, 2013 by Amon

[khoathkeeper13 429]

Well sadly not all Christians act like Christians. But it's a Christians job to spread the gospel (but not force). I'd just wouldn't try it on the internet unless in a conversation with someone, and probably not unless they brought it up.  And I wouldn't just spring randomly on someone I've never met and rant on them. I haven't seen many people online try to force anything on anybody, but I try to stay away from all that. I don't like the religion wars >_<

I think the main problem is just the fact of clashing beliefs. People don't like to hear their beliefs disregarded.

 

 

what about all them peopple who think Satanists are evil devil worshipers when theyre not lmao???

also people who scrutinize Wiccans

i mean you got your Christians and your Atheists and most people are okay with that, but once you say you're a Satanist (like myself) or a Muslim or a Wiccan all hell breaks loose

i see less problems between atheists and christians than i see when people of other faiths try to practice their faith

 

edit: ALSO!!!

not only christians believe in god!!! WOAH WOW NEW CONCEPT

jewish people and muslims also believe in god and theyre not christian

the jewish people just call god yaweh while muslims call god allah

same god, different names. 

Now I'm curious, what are satanists then???

And I wouldn't say the Muslims have the same god as Christians or Jews do. There are many differences. ...just saiyan

[Shard the Gentleman 2,891]

I intentionally chose one that doesn't exist. Trying to avoid conflict by using an example that doesn't actually exist.And, no. That's not how biology works, first you can't be 'immune' to scurvy any more than you can be 'immune' to hunger or dehydration. You need vitamin C to survive, scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency, not a disease vitamin C treats.

I kinda figured it was a fake example. Anyone who tries to start a religion that doesn't allow you to have basic nutrition is going to die pretty fast. Fast enough to were no one is joining. xDThats not a very good example. The point is just let people believe what they want to, and practice what they want to. Don't interfere.

[Koko 3,944]

Now I'm curious, what are satanists then???

And I wouldn't say the Muslims have the same god as Christians or Jews do. There are many differences. ...just saiyan

 

lavey satanism is about individuality and dont strictly believe in a deity

also yes they do have the same god!! they just worship god differently and have different practices and beliefs as to who the messiah is. but in the end, its the same god! yaweh is god in hebrew, and allah is the arabic word for god. so yes, they have the same god, just different sames and practices. but the basics of all three are very similar. 

[Shard the Gentleman 2,891]

lavey satanism is about individuality and dont strictly believe in a deity

That's what Atheism is.Satanism is the worship of Satan.

[Gambler'sApprentice 131]

I kinda figured it was a fake example. Anyone who tries to start a religion that doesn't allow you to have basic nutrition is going to die pretty fast. Fast enough to were no one is joining. xDThats not a very good example. The point is just let people believe what they want to, and practice what they want to. Don't interfere.

But what about examples when they are endangering other people? Where does the right to security override the right to freedom of religion?Freedom of speech is limited in cases where it infringes upon security.

[Koko 3,944]

That's what Atheism is.Satanism is the worship of Satan.

that is very wrong!!

atheism is not a set of beliefs or anything! therefore it isnt about ANYTHING. atheism is simply not believing in god, which is STRICTLY not believing in a deity. i said DONT STRICTLY. as well, like i said, atheists dont have a set of beliefs or ANYTHING therefore they can still fall into the crowd and not have a sense of individuality and arent encouraged to do so, unlike lavey satanists. 

satanism is NOT the worship of satanism unless youre talking about theistic satanism

in fact, luciferism is correct name for the religion that worship satan!

Edited February 21, 2013 by Koko