KHBbS Ugh, Birth by Sleep is the worst of them all

[JustRob 20]

The mini games are hard, but equally, if they were easy people would be complaining it's a wash out, least when it's harder, people can retry and retry and get better, whereas when it's easy it's over and done with, so people have nothing to aspire to on it and will just complain.  There is really no way to win 'cause regardless of mini-game or system is implemented there'll be people who walk through saying it's not challenging, and people who struggle saying it's too hard.

 

In KH1 though there were barely any new characters.  They literally were feeding of Disney storylines to help pad it out.  Now, there is an array of original characters, and BBS introduced 3 new ones who each had their own playable story, and whilst on a handheld, this wouldn't have allowed the space for extra face time for disney characters, it's the same reason there is less and less FF characters.  It would have been nice to have more interactivity, but simply UMD disc space wouldn't allow it, jesus, it wouldn't even allow capes.  

 

And although your latter points true, if they did stretch out each characters story, then the time spent in one world collectively would be too large, again conflicting with the disc space issue.  You could have played through Terra, finished one world, and go onto Ven's story and finished his chunk, and then Aqua's, so it's most chronological.  

 

Of all the KH games, I would not call BBS the worse.  Coded is literally the only one that be described as a filler (the rest are bridge, or side) as the information relevant to the plot it includes is minuscule (oh, we need keyblade masters for fight MX, ONTO 3D).  For all the bad points and good points about the game, it is certainly not the worse, and one of the best handhelds, but to each their own, if you really don't like it, you don't have to play it again.  

 

Oh so I gotta keep three savegames in order to get the most out of each world. That's not inconvenient at all!

 

Most of your complaints can be said about most of the hand held KH games. But you're pointing the finger at the least offender. Coded offered pretty much nothing new, reused same characters/worlds and told an irrelevant story. BBS may use the same formula as a tale of 3 people traveling across various Disney worlds, but offered so much more than the others. This isn't KH III here. Are you seriously saying Coded stands out more than BBS?

 

I never said anything about Coded, I never played Coded, so I can't say anything about it. I did play 358/2 Days and I liked the story, characters, and battle system more then this game's.

[Caity 3,946]

Oh so I gotta keep three savegames in order to get the most out of each world. That's not inconvenient at all!

 

 

I never said anything about Coded, I never played Coded, so I can't say anything about it. I did play 358/2 Days and I liked the story, characters, and battle system more then this game's.

 

It's barely a huge inconvinence, the 30 seconds it takes to open another save file will barely contribute to much in anyones life unless they need some serious improvement in the bedroom

[Dave 5,715]

Birth by Sleep is indeed the worst game in the franchise, and I agree with pretty much everything the original post says, but since I vowed to only focus on the positives of the Kingdom Hearts franchise this month, I can't comment any further.

 

Watch this thread in another month.

[Ptolema 404]

Uh, haters gonna hate. I don't think we can expect to change your opinion like that, it's what you think.

 

But you should play the game and see its point in the plot before jumping to the conclusion it's the worst. Seriously, give it a chance. The characters are all meant to be linked with each other plot-wise. Their similarities are all because of that.

 

I don't find Ventus to be a copy of Roxas or Sora, I think he is a different character with a different background, who because of said connections happens to share personality traits with both Sora and Roxas, and looks like Roxas.

 

Terra, like has been mentioned above, is similar to Riku. He saw that similarity himself. Their personality, their obstacles, their paths, their mistakes, it's all similar, yes. But Terra is a different person. He has his own story, and his own choices to make that will lead him to his eventual fate. 

 

Aqua, the only similarity I see between her and Kairi is Light. Unlike Aqua, Kairi is mostly helpless, barely capable of defending herself in almost every occasion. Aqua is a strong female and a warrior, who is always there to protect her friends. She is a Keyblade Master and a devoted friend.

 

I mean it when I say: Give this game a chance.

[GN_Otaku 70]

Seriously, this game is the worst. The worlds are boring and empty, the battle system is overly complicated, and the characters are almost not attractive at all. The only reason I'm trudging through this is for the plot, but it's really hard to keep playing.This Terra dude, is it just me or is this a flat out Riku clone? It's not just a similarity either, he's EXACTLY the same. He's the moody guy of the three, the most mature one, and the one who lets himself be controlled by darkness, all the while stating he doesn't fear the darkness over and over again. He also seems to team up with Disney villains much like Riku. The only difference is Riku is a well thought out, interesting character, while this guy seems like a cheap impersonation.Ventus... What the hell can I say, he's Roxas. Except with a different name and batshit crazy clothes that look like they were sewed together from different pieces. He's the exact same as Roxas, in personality and in looks (except clothes). Also the Sora of the group.Aqua is the Kaira of the group, except she's a bit more battle-ready. Flat, boring character who doesn't have anything interesting going for her at all.Have you played recoded? I also think the three storylines thing was a really bad idea. I gotta wait two playthroughs to see the conclusion to each world. Not only that, I kinda want to shoot myself when thinking of having to play through this game two more times.There are some interesting things in this game, like Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig, but there's not ENOUGH. Deep Space, where the hell is Xehanort? Where is Vanitas? Why are there only the stupid Disney characters?What the hell is Disney Town? Everywhere I go there's some kind of minigame. Do I have to complete this shit to progress in the game? God, just let me fight Vanitas, or show some background history on the other future Organization members. I don't give a crap about Experiment 626 or whatever.Oh, and one more thing. Olympus Colliseum. PLOT TWIST! You got used by Hades! Didn't see that one coming! Seriously, just kill me...I could go on, but for now I'm done ranting.

Have you played recoded? Now thats a great example of a horrible kh game Edited February 9, 2013 by GN_Otaku

[Master Juan 574]

Who gives a shit? Seriously its just a video game calm down guys.

[ReikuSSR 1,071]

Seriously, this game is the worst. The worlds are boring and empty, the battle system is overly complicated, and the characters are almost not attractive at all. The only reason I'm trudging through this is for the plot, but it's really hard to keep playing.

 

This Terra dude, is it just me or is this a flat out Riku clone? It's not just a similarity either, he's EXACTLY the same. He's the moody guy of the three, the most mature one, and the one who lets himself be controlled by darkness, all the while stating he doesn't fear the darkness over and over again. He also seems to team up with Disney villains much like Riku. The only difference is Riku is a well thought out, interesting character, while this guy seems like a cheap impersonation.

 

Ventus... What the hell can I say, he's Roxas. Except with a different name and batshit crazy clothes that look like they were sewed together from different pieces. He's the exact same as Roxas, in personality and in looks (except clothes). Also the Sora of the group.

 

Aqua is the Kaira of the group, except she's a bit more battle-ready. Flat, boring character who doesn't have anything interesting going for her at all.

 

I also think the three storylines thing was a really bad idea. I gotta wait two playthroughs to see the conclusion to each world. Not only that, I kinda want to shoot myself when thinking of having to play through this game two more times.

 

There are some interesting things in this game, like Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig, but there's not ENOUGH. Deep Space, where the hell is Xehanort? Where is Vanitas? Why are there only the stupid Disney characters?

 

What the hell is Disney Town? Everywhere I go there's some kind of minigame. Do I have to complete this shit to progress in the game? God, just let me fight Vanitas, or show some background history on the other future Organization members. I don't give a crap about Experiment 626 or whatever.

 

Oh, and one more thing. Olympus Colliseum. PLOT TWIST! You got used by Hades! Didn't see that one coming! Seriously, just kill me...

 

I could go on, but for now I'm done ranting.

Hey justRob!!

You can have your opinon I apologize. it just hurts a little, and shocking.

Edited February 9, 2013 by ReikuSSR

[JustRob 20]

Well, who knows. Maybe I'll warm up to the game when I get a little further. I do consider myself a Kingdom Hearts fan, so I'll just keep playing.

[Ajexmi 446]

Of all the things I could say to this thread..... I just..... ain't gonna touch this with a barge pole..... so......

 

Have you played recoded? Now thats a great example of a horrible kh game

 

this ^

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Actually, Terra, Aqua, and Ventus ARE connected, so I think this is a bit of foreshadowing here.  To explain this, however, I'll have to offer a fair amount of spoilers.

 

 

 

Ventus's heart goes into Sora, which I *believe* is how Sora wields a Keyblade.  Terra makes Riku his successor when he meets him on Destiny Islands when Riku's a little kid, and Aqua meets Kairi in Radiant Garden.  Unversed corner them from every direction and, out of fear, Kairi grasps on to Aqua's Keyblade, which ultimately made Kairi Aqua's successor.

 

 

 

So really, it's not so much that Terra, Aqua, and Ven copied Sora, Riku, and Kairi, but actually the other way around, since the BbS trio were Keyblade wielders first.  Does that make sense?

 

 

Sora wields a keyblade on his own and dual wields because of Ven. Nomura himself stated Sora was always destined to wield and gets nothing from Ven except for the second keyblade... This is why Sora still wields after becoming a walking heart in the end of Kh1 when Roxas  was formed and had Ven's heart inside him . He wielded that way all the way till they were re-merged in KH2.

[Ajexmi 446]

Sora wields a keyblade on his own and dual wields because of Ven. Nomura himself stated Sora was always destined to wield and gets nothing from Ven except for the second keyblade... This is why Sora still wields after becoming a walking heart in the end of Kh1 when Roxas  was formed and had Ven's heart inside him . He wielded that way all the way till they were re-merged in KH2.

 

I pity you for how many times you've had to tell people this, pretty much word for word..... myself, admittedly, included!

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Lol @ this entire thread.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I pity you for how many times you've had to tell people this, pretty much word for word..... myself, admittedly, included!

 

 

LOL My job is never done my friend

[Velvet Scarlatina 607]

Have you played recoded? Now thats a great example of a horrible kh game

 

I liked Re:Coded.

[Ptolema 404]

LOL My job is never done my friend

 

You have saved many KH fans from ignorance. Thank you. I was the idiot who said Lingering Will was Terra's soul.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

You have saved many KH fans from ignorance. Thank you. I was the idiot who said Lingering Will was Terra's soul.

 

 

Don't call yourself an idiot. Honestly, it's a common misconception among the fanbase. and you are welcome !

[Pyrrha Nikos 1,162]

BbS, the worst in the series? Lololol no

 

If you ask me, Days is the worst one imo

[Weiss 8,279]

Guys, everyone is allowed to their opinion. 

Hell I like one of the most hated games in the series. 

I am the unpopular opinion sanctum

But yeah, JostRob if dislike it that's fine. Others may not find it bad though. (majority of others find it one of the best)

I actually think some of the things you ranted about are what people like about the game.

But yeah, thank you for sharing your opinion on here. That actually takes guts considering what game you picked. oWO 

I applaud you for that good sir.

[Dracozombie 4,554]

Thing with opinions is that you're not required to agree with all of them.  Not everyone likes BBS but there are a great many people like me who do, so why not interact with them instead?

[Junko 2,815]

this argument is still going on?? 

[JustRob 20]

Alright, I just finished Terra's story.

 

I have to say it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. The ending was actually pretty good (even if I don't really understand what the hell happened).

 

Just one question, am I supposed to start a new game if I want to play Ventus and Aqua? I actually thought the game would just let you select a different character after the ending, instead of having to create a new save. If I had known this, I would have made three savegames from the start and did each world on each character completely as I went along.

[Weiss 8,279]

Alright, I just finished Terra's story.

 

I have to say it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. The ending was actually pretty good (even if I don't really understand what the hell happened).

 

Just one question, am I supposed to start a new game if I want to play Ventus and Aqua? I actually thought the game would just let you select a different character after the ending, instead of having to create a new save. If I had known this, I would have made three savegames from the start and did each world on each character completely as I went along.

You do a new game for each character.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Keysofblades

[JustRob 20]

Dear God...

[Junko 2,815]

Dear God...

it's not that bad owo

[Weiss 8,279]

Dear God...

It's not that bad. Each game doesn't even take up too much space.